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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone have any faith that Trump's cabinet or Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell can keep Trump in
check if he goes off the rails?
His cabinet seems to be as nutty as Trump. Ryan and McConnell seem to be simply selfish clueless bastards.
I'm worried as fuck about this, particularly the China situation is very disturbing.
Olbermann makes the key point that weakening our relationship with mainland China actually helps ... Russia.
And we need China to deal with North Korea's nuclear program.
Trump has already weakened us on human rights too.
Trump is not even in office yet and he's already made us less safe and made us less great.
FUCK.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,395 posts)so, no. Trump will almost certainly sign whatever they thrust into his hands. He will be their useful puppet.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I am just sensing some very ugly times ahead.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,395 posts)The best case scenario we can hope for IMHO is that Democrats, particularly in the Senate, can at least minimize the oncoming damage, bog down Trump/GOP agenda and make them miserable, and can maneuver themselves back into a position of real power in 2018 and 2020. We went through some pretty miserable times between 2000-2008. Hopefully, there won't be such a prolonged stretch of Republican-induced misery this time around.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Ryan and McConnell are anti-humanity politicians.
The Cretin is a contempt-worthy human who is only interested in self-glorification, caring nothing for the comfort or protection of humanity.
They are a lethal match.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Fast Walker, I'm no speller but I think you need to take a look at the word weakened. Is there a place where one can go to regularly get Keith input?
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Fixed it.
You can subscribe to Keith on Youtube. All his video get posted there. As well as on the GQ site and on twitter.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Turbineguy
(37,293 posts)It will be no problem for them to stay sane. As long as Trump doesn't have the launch codes, we'll be fine.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Turbineguy
(37,293 posts)It's been known.
The GOP will be so busy killing Americans, perhaps everybody else will think they'll be left alone.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Turbineguy
(37,293 posts)couldn't use them.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)that it's more of a popular myth that they can launch them, and of course the government probably doesn't want to give out the real truth on who runs them, for national security reasons.
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)He stands for everything they have been trying to do for decades. They may not like his ah,er, uhm style, but make no mistake he will grant the republiklan wish list in its entirety. The republicans now have cover, they can say trump wants it and since trump won, America wants it.
dhill926
(16,314 posts)hoping maybe a few sane repub senators (relatively speaking), can save us from the worst. and dems have to stand united (talking to you Manchin...). Otherwise, we are well and truly fucked...
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)ryan has social security and medicare in his sights...nothing else matters to him
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)He WILL go off the rails. Sooner than later.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)Most of his cabinet would cheer him on.
I grew up in the cold war, as so many of us, with potential nuclear war constantly hanging over our heads. I remember asking my Dad where he thought the closest city to us that would be nuked was, and us having discussions about that.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)What we assume is good in the world don't even come into play n their world. We look for truth, thinking that is a good thing, and they just look for success regardless of what it takes. I don't get it, and don't even want to.
I just really resent that telling our kids to be kind and honest turns out to be a losing proposition and that we now refer to a "post truth world".
Is there really "the devil", and is this it?
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I really have no freaking idea what a conservative utopia would be-- we know their policies would create suffering and chaos-- but what do they even envision their utopia to look like?
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)Weird analogy given the contect.
How is he allowed to do that when he's technically not the POTUS and such matters are surely then illegal?
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)They want an Authoritarian Corporate Controlled Theocracy.
This has been in the works for over 5 decades.
They are thrilled that Trump came along to help them accomplish their evil agenda.
He is in it for the money, attention, and power.
They are in it for the money, deregulation, privatization, and to force Christianity on U.S. citizens.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)and what kind of horrors they will force on those who don't share their vision.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)to the Supreme Court.
The will have TOTAL CONTROL of ALL BRANCHES of government !!!
They are the party of destruction and death.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I think people in his cabinet will fear him so much that they will capitulate to his every whim. It is indeed the start of the error of the emperor with no clothes. No one close to him will have the balls to tell him that he's an idiot.
Trump is not going to put anyone in his cabinet that he won't be able to control either. Look who he picked for HUD Secretary. That'll tell you something.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)to keep us safe.
And I only hope people lower down will be able to say no to orders that are clearly dangerous or unconstitutional.
The fucking Republicans worried so much about Obama doing something crazy and confiscating guns or enacting martial law, when it is a hundred times more likely under Trump...
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)a legitimate hope. It would be pretty hard for someone to have to do.
I am cautiously hopeful that groups like the ACLU, etc. are going to make a big enough threat to Trump that he at least pays some attention to them, but that will not give us much security.
Yes, down here in Texas, all I've heard for the last eight years is how "Obummer's" going to take all the guns away. I've about had my lifetime quota of dealing with idiots, and I am completely void of ANY sympathy for the people who voted for Trump. Those voters have put my way of life and my family at risk, and I'm not going to forget that for a very long time.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,606 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)But try arguing with stupid. Impossible because facts don't matter to them. The NRA told them to hate President Obama and they are too ignorant to reason for themselves.
It's all about hate where these people are concerned. And it's sickening.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Want him to go off the rails, improves there hold over us..
Kakistocracy
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,606 posts)The inmates are are running the asylum.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)By Hrafnkell Haraldsson on Tue, Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:26 pm
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/06/paul-ryan-promises-unified-republican-government-destroy-american-2017.html
Turtle:
Any republican is just as deadly to the average American as Dump is. They will definitely not try to stop him, they will empower Duh Furor to monstrous ends, just wait and see.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)most obnoxious hateful people in the country in charge. And it's not like we have seen their game before.
JI7
(89,240 posts)going to join the administration so i don't see anything happening from him.
Ryan is a coward .
the reason i kind of want romney or hunstman is maybe he might do better . i'm giving romney a bit of a pass on the meetings with trump because i'm thinking he wants to join for the right reasons.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)That, of course, would make the Orange One double . . . no triple . . . down on whatever horrible thing he is doing. We'll be lucky to survive until 2020.
MBS
(9,688 posts)For instance, the insane and unstable and treasonous Michael Flynn, a Dr. Strangelove character if there ever was one. I can't think of a worse, or more dangerous or more inappropriate choice for National Security Advisor than Flynn. And he does not require Senate confirmation.
Our country has never been in greater danger in my lifetime.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Flynn can't even tell what stories are real or not. How can that not go horribly wrong???
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)NOBODY, bottom-line, we are truly screwed, blued and tattooed, game-over, piss on the admiral and call in all the boats, we lost.
Hillary not only lost the election but she destroyed the Democratic party and the future for our county.
Everyone knew she was a badly flawed candidate but nobody stepped up since the fix was in and she had the nomination by default!
Biden left our country down when he declined to run, one of the worse decisions in the history of the USA, Munich comes to mind as comparable with perhaps the same level of catastrophic consequences.