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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:28 PM Dec 2016

Repubs plan will kill Medicare won't it?

They are talking about different rules for those 55 and under.
Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Medicare rely on ALL working ages contributing into it?

How can Medicare be spilt and survive?

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Warpy

(111,237 posts)
2. They are running into a brick wall in the Senate, thank goodness
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:39 PM
Dec 2016

and yes, that slow death by changing rules for younger people will kill it. Unless they do universal single payer as the alternative, which they won't, I don't see how they can kill it. Younger people, especially those over 35 who have managed to get some sense of how the world works, are going to be up in arms over it in both parties; by the time those people hit 50, they'll be homicidal toward any fool who votes to kill it for them.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. I don't think they'll succeed. The populace might be extremely divided on lots of things,
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:59 PM
Dec 2016

but NOT ON MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY. They always get calls from their constituents, but WAIT and see the overload on those two topics! The public won't let it happen. I'm one of the people on Medicare & SS. In the event anyone talks about getting rid of either or both I will call my Rep, my two Senators, and give their contact phone #'s out to all my neighbors, pass them out at the grocery stores and do my part to make those "public servants" lives HELL until they give up. I will contact all my friends & relatives and tell them to do the same!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,840 posts)
5. Unfortunately, the idea that SS and Medicare won't be around
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

for younger people has been out there for about 45 years.

I'm 68, and I can assure you that more than 40 years ago co-workers, my age mates, would often say, "Oh, Social Security won't be there when I retire." I'd tell them they were full of shit, and that to even begin to think that way was to open the door to get rid of Social Security.

So fast-forward 40 plus years, and we are all retired, all collecting Social Security, all on Medicare. Meanwhile, everyone behind us has drunk the kool aid. As Hitler and his minions knew so very well, if you repeat a lie often enough, everyone believes it.

The notion that Medicare and Social Security aren't fiscally sustainable is one of the biggest lies out there. But it's been repeating over and over, for more than 40 years, and most people don't even begin to think to fact check anything at all. So they don't bother to fact check this.

If SS and Medicare came out of the general revenues, maybe they'd have a point. But so far, they are a completely separate income stream. Of course, you'd never know that if you pay attention to the lies promulgated.

SS and Medicare are not at all like the systematic underfunding of pensions in both the private and public sector. Those problems are real. SS could stand a bit of a boost in funding, such as raising or perhaps eliminating the cap altogether. But rich people, who will never have any need for the relative pittance that SS provides, just don't care about those of us who need it.

Sometimes I wonder if not a single one of these bastards don't have a mother who is on Social Security and Medicare. Apparently not.

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