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Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:04 AM Nov 2016

Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve needs to raise interest rates soon and often

Higher borrowing costs are the only checks on Trump and the congress from exploding the national debt to pay for tax cuts for the rich and wars abroad.

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Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve needs to raise interest rates soon and often (Original Post) Yavin4 Nov 2016 OP
They won't give a shit... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #1
True, but they won't be able to run from it. They will have to own it. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #3
They will only "own" it if the fucking media lays it on the line... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #17
You're not kidding! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #8
5% should be the target. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #2
Yep. Take the credit card away from the affluenza teens in the WH and Congress. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2016 #4
Discount and Funds rate must go up too. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #5
I get the point, but don't think that idea is good for anyone in this economy. Hoyt Nov 2016 #6
...at the same time, Donnie cannot blow up the deficit. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #7
With low interest rates, Trump and the Republicans can cut taxes on the wealthy, engage in wars, Yavin4 Nov 2016 #9
They can do that no matter what the borrowing rates are GummyBearz Nov 2016 #12
Higher rates are inevitable no matter what. Even if Hillary had won, they'd go up. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #15
It doesn't matter is my main point GummyBearz Nov 2016 #16
The bubble will be horrible and will come quickly if Donnie gets his way. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #13
Significantly higher rates will shut down construction and throw us into another recession with Hoyt Nov 2016 #14
People should be getting out of the US dollar at this point. roamer65 Nov 2016 #10
OPEC is cutting production so oil is on the rise Yavin4 Nov 2016 #11

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
1. They won't give a shit...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:06 AM
Nov 2016

remember, deficits only matter when there is a D in the White House. Trump is the King of Debt.

No problem.

Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
3. True, but they won't be able to run from it. They will have to own it.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:08 AM
Nov 2016

Higher rates also slows down the economy.

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
17. They will only "own" it if the fucking media lays it on the line...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:28 AM
Nov 2016

and tells the truth for a change. Repubs have been given a pass on their bullshit for years. I'm not real hopeful, though there have been some promising signs with how they've quoted Trump lately.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I get the point, but don't think that idea is good for anyone in this economy.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:14 AM
Nov 2016

I despise Trump as much as anyone, but sending us and the world back into a high unemployment recession is not the way to fight the pig.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. ...at the same time, Donnie cannot blow up the deficit.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:16 AM
Nov 2016

GDP and debt are equal. We do not have much room to move at this point.

Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
9. With low interest rates, Trump and the Republicans can cut taxes on the wealthy, engage in wars,
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:19 AM
Nov 2016

and de-regulate us into another massive credit bubble. All of which would damage us much more than slightly higher unemployment.

It's fine to have low rates when reasonable people run the government, but when lunatics are at the helm with no one to check them is the reason why the Fed was created in the first place.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
12. They can do that no matter what the borrowing rates are
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:28 AM
Nov 2016

Think about it. Higher rates actually bring in more interest money from foreign bond buyers who want US treasuries. Also hurts the economy in general. I do agree rates should be increased slowly, but your logic for doing so is absurd

Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
15. Higher rates are inevitable no matter what. Even if Hillary had won, they'd go up.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:34 AM
Nov 2016

The difference here is that the Republicans want to take advantage of low rates to borrow in order to pay for their massive tax cuts and a new war in the Middle East.

The Fed is the only independent body that can put a damper on their plans. It would at least give the Dems some ammunition to tailor the tax breaks for the middle class instead of the wealthy.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
16. It doesn't matter is my main point
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:44 AM
Nov 2016

The US borrowing money from itself... what do the rates matter? There was discussion between serious economists about how the US could just print a trillion dollar coin and then spend it in order to solve debt problems/create money velocity and inflation back a couple years ago. Raise the rates to 20% and they can still print that coin.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
13. The bubble will be horrible and will come quickly if Donnie gets his way.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:51 AM
Nov 2016

The economy has been growing for over 7 years now.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Significantly higher rates will shut down construction and throw us into another recession with
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:16 AM
Nov 2016

lots of unemployment. If the debt goes up, interest rates will naturally rise.

Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
11. OPEC is cutting production so oil is on the rise
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:25 AM
Nov 2016

The dollar is safe. However, you cannot let the Republicans take advantage of that and lower interest rates.

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