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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:49 PM

There is a political crisis in our country.


This political crisis is presently being fought by the two major political Parties.

Our long-standing institutions are being attacked at every turn. Our schools and unions are struggling to survive. Even firemen, policemen, and mailmen are under assault. In fact, our entire established government is threatened by a radical, right-wing, anti-government Party that is being funded by the wealthiest people in our nation.

Over thirty years ago, the conspiracy was hatched. The idea was that if they could run our country far enough into debt, then there would be no money for any more government programs. At the time, they did not imagine that we would not have money for any government programs. They succeeded beyond their wildest imagination.

If the Democratic Party does not find a way to counter this threat, then America will soon be in a deep decline from which we cannot recover. Our roads and bridges will deteriorate rapidly. Within five years, many of our highways and cities could be in ruin. Simply because no one wants to raise the taxes needed for a functioning society. We are in a crisis.

The country is in desperate need of leadership. We need someone that can lead us into battle against these forces that would destroy us all. We cannot continue to compromise and make deals and pretend that no one has to sacrifice. This enemy is as dangerous as any foreign enemy we have seen since a militarized Soviet Union.

There are no easy answers. We need everyone to pay their fair share of taxes. Taxes are the price we pay for a decent society. When we have both Parties bidding to see who can cut taxes the most, they are both our enemy. They are both destroying the nation that we have built.

With more taxcuts, there will not be more jobs. There will not be a better economy. There will only be the dog-eat-dog world of international competition. The wealth will continue to go to those at the very top as our middle-class sinks into lower class poverty.

That is our future if we do not recognize the crisis we are in and act to fix it. We need leadership - we don't need tax cuts.

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kentuck Jun 2012 OP
lonestarnot Jun 2012 #1
Zalatix Jun 2012 #2
grasswire Jun 2012 #3
kentuck Jun 2012 #5
midnight Jun 2012 #4
clang1 Jun 2012 #8
msongs Jun 2012 #6
clang1 Jun 2012 #7
Kablooie Jun 2012 #9
clang1 Jun 2012 #10
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #11
kentuck Jun 2012 #12
Kablooie Jun 2012 #19
libtodeath Jun 2012 #13
datasuspect Jun 2012 #14
clang1 Jun 2012 #15
Proles Jun 2012 #16
clang1 Jun 2012 #17
TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #18
B Calm Jun 2012 #20

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:52 PM

1. Say it Kentuck!

K & R!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:54 PM

2. Or it could mean a global collapse.

 

Which will mean we can get rid of the Plutocrats and start over.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:57 PM

3. who would you suggest?

Got any ideas?

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Response to grasswire (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:01 AM

5. All of us.

We need to recognize the danger we are facing.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:59 PM

4. For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and

don't be a free loader meme has kept the working people with their heads down working hard paying for themselves and the wealthy's tax cuts... but sadly the machines that were suppose to release us from so much toil has released many from family wages, tallied numbers for bankers and elections, that have no accountability or over site... I think fix the machines with and provide accountability and much will be fixed asap....

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Response to midnight (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:38 AM

8. For many generations the pull your self up by your own boot straps, and

 

Problem is right now there is none: accountability

And there are two rules of law at work here. One for them, and one for us. Heh ours is not the better deal.

We live in a country now where murderers and torturers walk free amongst and not only that promote their crimes. While a 20 year old kid/Soldier sat in a brig being tortured by our government for six months by them attempting systematically stripping him of his humanness. I have a problem with this myself. It's not just or justice. I am a Vet myself (11 years), and I have nothing but complete and utter contempt for this.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:31 AM

6. no we must placate and appease, beg and be bipartisan so they will love us lol nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:27 AM

7. There is a political crisis in our country.

 

Thank you for a very excellent post.


'is threatened by a radical, right-wing, anti-government Party that is being funded by the wealthiest people in our nation.'


It is, and that they are. You are correct about the danger and people are mostly clueless about what is happening here. So far as one response to events here in the US I already see the disinformation at work, the reframing of the message, the division of the OWS/99% movement. None of this is by accident and it sadly seems business as usual.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:08 AM

9. I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem.

Certainly he's the best choice in the next election without any question but a different personality would be better for the country right now.

One of Obama's strengths is diplomacy. I feel he's a master at building bridges between different points of view but right now diplomacy is not what we need. The right is totally immune to diplomacy today so it is not a terribly useful skill.

What we really need is a strong, persuasive, ruthless leader that takes no hostages. Someone who can push and bully others into doing his will. Not a likable guy but someone that gets things done at any cost.

Normally I don't like that kind of leader but unfortunately I don't see any other kind of person being able to take control of our careening government right now. The deranged right will only be reined in by a severe, disciplinarian father figure, not a diplomatic, intellectual communicator.

IMHO

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:28 AM

10. re I have great respect for Obama but I don't think he is the best person to deal with this problem.

 

I do to. I think he personally is probably a very good man (though I personally never cared for Rahm very much) and most certainly he is the best next choice for President. But I have to agree with you. I too am sick of our side going to gunfights with water pistols (God I hated writing that). The problem is the rot and a lack of political will. The rot is the money and that the system has become dysfuntional and the peoples work does not get done. Both sides partake of that meal and that is also a problem. The dems are at least not antigov, try to govern and try to improve peoples lives. I will take this anyday over the other side (GOP) and their caustic regressiveness.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:32 AM

11. Don't worry, we're going to get one.

 

But I think we are not going to like it very much.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:45 AM

12. Not only that...

But if the Repubs take the Senate and Obama is lucky enough to hold the Presidency, they will impeach him. They are threatening and blackmailing the Democrats at this time. Even today, they are going to charge Eric Holder, the Attorney-General, with contempt of Congress. They are trying to put him in a box and keep him there. Because there is voting fraud on a scale unseen at least since the Pre-Voting Rights Act. They are knee-capping him, hoping to disable any and all investigations. In my opinion, the Democrats are running scared.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:01 AM

19. I agree that if Obama wins he will be impeached within a few months.

Even if the the GOP doesn't win Congress they will try to impeach him.
No question about it.
And they will make it as disrupting as possible to prevent any progress in governing the country.

Why the hell can't the Democrats go offensive and start tearing the GOP apart?
It's like they are afraid they might upset the Republican constituency.
Why it matters to them I can't fathom.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:57 AM

13. My only hope

is that somehow before the collapse people will wake up and demand the end to capitalism that is needed for the people of this country to thrive.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:14 AM

14. problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well

 

we have the best government that corporate money can buy.

we the people can go pound sand.

we need a left wing populist revolution.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:30 PM

15. re: problem is, lots of democrats (possibly not every single democrat) are in the pocket as well

 

Yep. It's all nice and shiny too.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:47 PM

16. It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point.

Unless starting from scratch is an option. Isn't that pretty much what Iceland did? Though they are a significantly small population.

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Response to Proles (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:51 PM

17. re: It almost seems daunting to correct anything at this point.

 

Yep. I guess you could say that.

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Response to Proles (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:17 PM

18. The rot is almost certainly out of human scale to correct incrementally

There are so many knots, impenetrable shadows, powerful multi-generational connections, and dragon like hoards that you are on a scale, with steady progress, of something like the age of the country.

You better have a damn tight, well understood, and damn near religious in power message to pull that shit off.
Once incremental takes you beyond a generation and certainly two, all bets are off especially when you are trying to clean up this volume of entropy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:03 AM

20. Great post kentuck!!

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