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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:45 PM

Pornography isn't the problem.

There is no question that we are still a very sexist and patriarchal society where women are mistreated in a systematic way. Sure, we've made a lot of progress, but I don't think I need to tell DU the problem still exists.

There's also no question that was are a capitalistic society where workers are exploited.

There's also no question that these factors compound with one another. Some elements of capitalism as we know it are bolstered by sexism, and vice versa (that women make less money than men, that there's is a gendering of the division between paid and unpaid labor pertaining to the domestic realm, etc).

Both of these factors are pervasive throughout our society and yes they do show up within pornography and other forms of sex work. But that doesn't mean that pornography is inherently problematic.

The fact that a woman may be able to make more money taking her clothes off for men than say doing another line of work is deeply problematic and troubling and mean's that the agency of women is constrained in our society. But it also doesn't mean that a woman could not decide of her own free will that she would prefer this career path to another.

It's also worth noting for a lot of people that working at Walmart or McDonald's isn't exactly a choice either.

So yes there are problems concerning sex work, because these are problems throughout our society. But turning porn into some sort magical sphere completely separated from the larger forces of the economy, culture, and society that produces it not only missed the real problem concerning the mistreatment of women and workers in our society, but in many ways upholds them.

Although, I am a gay Marxist so my perspective on this may be slightly skewed.

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Reply Pornography isn't the problem. (Original post)
Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 OP
limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #1
LeftyMom Jun 2012 #2
limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #4
tinymontgomery Jun 2012 #6
LeftyMom Jun 2012 #7
GObamaGO Jun 2012 #8
LeftyMom Jun 2012 #9
GObamaGO Jun 2012 #11
woolldog Jun 2012 #3
Whisp Jun 2012 #5
woolldog Jun 2012 #10
DURHAM D Jun 2012 #12
sadbear Jun 2012 #13

Response to Puregonzo1188 (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:25 PM

1. Why are there so many porn threads on DU today?

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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:27 PM

2. Because smoking in bars isn't until Friday

and we just had breastfeeding. Check the flamewar schedule.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:35 PM

4. ..

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:40 PM

6. Best reply yet

By the way, where is the schedule?

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Response to tinymontgomery (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:42 PM

7. In the lounge bathroom, written in sharpie.

Good luck reading it.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:43 PM

8. Can you email me the schedule?

I am waiting for circumcision day.

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Response to GObamaGO (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:45 PM

9. We had to reschedule that.

Some idiot penciled it in for Friday night, and obviously that was a no-go.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:50 PM

11. Damn, I was all revved up for it too.

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Response to Puregonzo1188 (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:33 PM

3. huh?

The fact that a woman may be able to make more money taking her clothes off for men than say doing another line of work is deeply problematic and troubling and mean's that the agency of women is constrained in our society.


Really? In what way does it show that? If anything it shows women have more choice and more agency than men.

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Response to woolldog (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:36 PM

5. that's what I tell my daughter

 

you can continue your studies in science or take up a trade where you gets things shoved up every hole you have by one or two or three strangers that probably don't bathe. same difference, girl! you are soooooo lucky for these neat choices you have.

*barfs

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Response to Whisp (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:12 PM

10. Really?

I don't think that's good advice for your daughter whisp.

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Response to Puregonzo1188 (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:09 AM

12. Bumping this up - we need more porn discussion.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:11 AM

13. We certainly seem to have our finger on the pulse of America

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