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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:25 PM

Nuns' leader decries church environment of fear

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/18813071/us-nuns-say-vatican-crackdown-has-broad-effect

Posted: Jun 18, 2012 7:51 AM CDT
Updated: Jun 18, 2012 9:41 AM CDT

By RACHEL ZOLL
AP Religion Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - The leader of the group representing most American nuns challenged the Vatican's reasons for disciplining her organization, insisting that raising questions about church doctrine should not be seen as rebellion.

Sister Pat Farrell, president of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, said Monday that Catholics should be able to search for answers about faith without fear.

"I don't think this is a healthy environment for the church," Farrell said in a phone interview. "We can use this event to help move things in that direction - where it's possible to pose questions that will not be seen as defiance or opposition."

Farrell's remarks are her first since she met last week in Rome with the Vatican orthodoxy office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which concluded in April that the group had strayed broadly from church teaching. The Vatican has appointed three American bishops to conduct a full-scale overhaul of the organization, sparking protests globally in support of the sisters.

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Reply Nuns' leader decries church environment of fear (Original post)
NNN0LHI Jun 2012 OP
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #1
pacalo Jun 2012 #2
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #3
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #5
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #6
Retrograde Jun 2012 #8
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #14
pscot Jun 2012 #4
patrice Jun 2012 #7
Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #9
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2012 #10
glinda Jun 2012 #11
GObamaGO Jun 2012 #15
jerseyjack Jun 2012 #12
ck4829 Jun 2012 #13

Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:28 PM

1. K&R !!! n/t

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:29 PM

2. They are a breath of fresh air. I hope their spunkiness doesn't diminish.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:31 PM

3. The vatican wants a smaller church that they can control.

There idea is to bring back the Latin Mass so that the people do not know what is going on so that there is an air of mystery to it. The vatican tells nuns that they are spending too much time on the poor and not enough time on doctrine. how dare they take care of the poor. Do you think Jesus would spend his day with deadbeats? I was appalled when the vatican said that. They want to loose all of the liberals in the church, close 25% of their churches, and have control on those who stay. I left this church almost 16 years ago for the Episcopal Church, and I never look back.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:40 PM

5. As an outsider, I don't profess to know a lot about the Catholic

religion, but to me it always seems the Vatican is all about control. It seems most of the public statements by the Vatican always evolve around control of the flocks.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:42 PM

6. It is about the money in the plate really. n/t

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:21 PM

8. Same thing, really

When I was a child in the Catholic Church it was always give, give, give: money for the parish, money for Catholic Charities, money for this, money for that. To be sure, some of it goes for building maintenance and good works, but a lot of it ends up getting kicked up to the diocese, and then to the Vatican. (read Render Unto Rome: The Secret Life of Money in the Catholic Church, by Jason Berry, for an account of cash flow in Catholicism). In my parish there were periodic food drives for the nuns, who in addition to teaching school also did most of the church cleaning, but the priests were each supplied with late model cars (for their pastoral duties, y'know, visiting the sick and all ) and a housekeeper. And of course, one must always show respect for priests because they're special.

Pope John Paul II fooled a lot of people, I think, because he came across as a genial grandfatherly figure, but he reminded me of the old-school and old-country priests of my youth, who firmly believed that their words were the only opinions worth listening to. JP2 was the one who appointed the current hierarchy, along with his right-hand cardinal, Ratzinger. The current Church acts like it wants to go back to the days when cardinals and bishops were literally Princes of the Church.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:15 AM

14. Thanks for the post.

You captured what the church was like for years.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:38 PM

4. Biggles! The comfy chair!

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:47 PM

7. K&R for women!

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:56 PM

9. RCC is the church of fear

Catholics are fine but the male leaders are infected by Satan

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:42 PM

10. As a Catholic, I'm backing the nuns

and as a Catholic, I will think for myself.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:04 PM

11. As someone raised Catholic and by nuns, they have mine also!

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:18 AM

15. As a former Catholic - I back the nuns

They seem to be the only ones within the hierarchy who are actually following Christ's example.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:07 PM

12. It is sad to think about the harm that has come to the world from the RCC.

 

Harm on large scale from the Crusades and the Reformation. Harm from the Inquisition. Harm from guilt based on violating teachings based on nonsense.

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Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:39 PM

13. K&R

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