Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:20 PM
Auggie (16,180 posts)
Scott Brown is silencing Elizabeth Warren
It's a dubious tactic. By pulling out of the Massachusetts debate the GOP keeps Warren's message off the public airways.
Debates are free campaigning. By not participating, Brown and the Repukes force the Warren campaign to spend money while stopping local and/or national dialog that might ensure. Win-win for them. Yes, they're really afraid of Warren.
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28 replies, 2242 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Auggie | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| freshwest | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| Auggie | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| freshwest | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| hughee99 | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| graywarrior | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| ihackperl | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| FarLeftFist | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| CaliforniaPeggy | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| freshwest | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| freshwest | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| 11 Bravo | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| Arkana | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| Politicalboi | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| ihackperl | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| RobertEarl | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| Auggie | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| RobertEarl | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| jeff47 | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| Auggie | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| cbrer | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| Auggie | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| JitterbugPerfume | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| GoCubsGo | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| hughee99 | Jun 2012 | #23 |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:21 PM
freshwest (31,330 posts)
1. But will the voters see it as a dodge? After all, they elected Brown.
Response to freshwest (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:24 PM
Auggie (16,180 posts)
3. I doubt it. But one would hope.
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Warren calls it the way she sees it -- not many politicians have the guts to do that. I think it scares the crap out of the GOP.
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Response to Auggie (Reply #3)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:51 PM
freshwest (31,330 posts)
7. I hope she prevails. We have had some great, hard working progressives not get elected because of
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the influence of media for GOP candidates. They did everything right in my eyes, worked hard to get their message out. We seem to be fighting a meme or a series of interests that are intractable. I"m sure that some people find whatever it is that Scott Brown stands for or against appealing. Or he wouldn't be there in the first place. If Warren does not get the win, I hope she will consider running again. She is an impressive individual with strong beliefs who would be a great voice in the Senate.
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Response to freshwest (Reply #7)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:11 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,301 posts)
18. I think she will win.
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If she doesn't, Election Night will be a massacre.
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Response to freshwest (Reply #1)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:11 PM
hughee99 (10,102 posts)
24. According to CBS Boston, they've already agreed to a number of debates
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So its going to a tough to make the argument that Brown was afraid to debate her a fourth or fifth time.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/06/20/brown-agrees-to-third-senate-debate-with-warren/ |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:23 PM
graywarrior (57,035 posts)
2. Didn't he challenge her to five debates?
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He's such a slithering coward. Let's see if he backs out of the other four.
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Response to Auggie (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:43 PM
ihackperl (4 posts)
4. Now She Can Debate the Cherokee Women..
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who have been requesting to talk with Eliezabeth about her false claims of Cherokee heritage..
Why is nobody calling the Cherokee Nation 'birthers' for requesting proof of eliezabeths claims? |
Response to ihackperl (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:54 PM
FarLeftFist (6,161 posts)
8. Because they believe she was born in the USA. And what makes you think she's not part cherokee?
Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:27 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (103,943 posts)
12. ihackperl is enjoying the pizza delivery...n/t
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #12)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:13 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,301 posts)
19. And yet that was allowed to stand (n/m)
Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #19)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
freshwest (31,330 posts)
25. Was it alerted? Must have friends or socks here.
Response to freshwest (Reply #25)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:39 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,301 posts)
28. I alerted after the fact.....
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...was told it stood 3-3.
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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #8)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:17 PM
freshwest (31,330 posts)
26. Because he was a troll. Thanks, MIRT.
Response to ihackperl (Reply #4)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:57 PM
11 Bravo (15,429 posts)
16. Enjoy your (short) stay.
Response to ihackperl (Reply #4)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:28 PM
Arkana (22,205 posts)
27. Because the Cherokee shit is completely irrelevant to how she would perform
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as a United States senator, you imbecile.
Why won't Scott Brown talk about why he voted for the Blunt Rubio amendment? Why won't he debate in any medium that isn't swamped with right-wing press? |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:46 PM
Politicalboi (9,445 posts)
5. She should take advantage of it
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Speak at the event, and have women on to speak and ask her questions.
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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #5)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:49 PM
ihackperl (4 posts)
6. ^^ Exactly.
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she should have a televised sitdown with these honorable women.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220619cherokee_women_to_elizabeth_warren_stop_ducking_us/ |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
RobertEarl (2,874 posts)
9. eh?
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Scott Brown is afraid of a woman?
Brown is a candy ass. |
Response to RobertEarl (Reply #9)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:02 PM
Auggie (16,180 posts)
10. Could be
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but I think they're afraid of the truth. Particularly in this one election. They've taken a calculated gamble, in their minds, that not debating is less risky than debating. And I don't think this is Brown's decision alone. It came from higher-ups.
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Response to Auggie (Reply #10)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:20 PM
RobertEarl (2,874 posts)
11. Yeah
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Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:20 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) They know Warren would kick his candy ass.
What a wimp. Stand up and take your beating, Senator Brown. Be a man. |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:48 AM
jeff47 (7,372 posts)
13. Why does she need his permission to debate?
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She can debate all she'd like.
Whether or not Brown's chair is empty during this debate is up to him. |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #13)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:53 PM
Auggie (16,180 posts)
14. Takes two to tango, I guess.
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:54 PM
cbrer (1,831 posts)
15. Fear in its rawest sense
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A debate between these two can have only one outcome. And I say Brown is too much of a wimp to let that happen.
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Response to cbrer (Reply #15)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
Auggie (16,180 posts)
22. Again, it's not just Brown. The entire GOP is afraid of this kind of rhetoric:
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"There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there — good for you!
But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did. Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea — God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along." |
Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:02 PM
JitterbugPerfume (18,072 posts)
17. Whats the matter Scott?
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Don't you have the VAGINA for this debate?
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Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:19 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
20. She should go to his Washington office and call him out
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Call a press conference and label him a coward if he doesn't debate her right there on the corner of the street. Make it beyond clear to the world that he's afraid to face the music.
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Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:23 PM
GoCubsGo (12,989 posts)
21. So afraid, he's giving her fodder for some really good commercials...
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...pointing out that he's a coward for not being willing to debate her without a bunch of ridiculous demands, such as wanting to silence Vicki Kennedy.
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Response to Auggie (Original post)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
hughee99 (10,102 posts)
23. So, except for the 3 or 4 debates they've already agreed to,
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he's silencing Warren by not agreeing to any other debates?
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