Why I go to Freeperville (beyond the rubbernecking aspect)

we are all living in an insane asylum.... Thank gawd for self-denial.

Freep are repeated there. Freep is a pretty accurate representation of the GOP base, IMO. They're the most vocal ones, but the rank and file feel the same way but don't express it as loudly.

that is also what has become of the majority of tea party supporters, so that any common ground becomes impossible. I say this as a former republican, it is also what worries me about the extremism and equally inflexible nature of the far left. So I am a democrat now, and intended to stay that way, I favor capitalism with sensible regulations, a firm safety net, a revised tax code, non interventionist, reasonable immigration policy, serious look at drug law, personal freedom of choice, be it abortion, 32 soft drinks, also getting government out of peoples bedrooms, marriages. Pretty centrist to sum it up, but increasingly harder to find on the right. So here I am. Against the ACA mandate, but not the premise, would support loosening medicaid eligibility to pick up the ininsured who would have no way of paying for ANY health insurance, much less a penalty for not carrying it. Support incentives to move industry back to US, like subsidizing health care cost for employees of major factories and plants that move back to US, among other creative incentives. There is more, but I have to get back to work.

I would venture that most of us wanted a public option instead of health INSURANCE regulation, but regulation is what we got.

The problem with your premise is this: without the mandates, the prescribed (no pun intended) service of mingling healthy people with sick people to bring down costs won't work. I think most of us would agree that it's sad that we, as a country, have been so bullied by the insurance industry that we keep having to fund them, but the basic premise of mandates, in this case, is necessary.

BTW, I think the ACA DOES pick up more of the uninsured who have no way of paying for it, while still providing subsidies in the form of tax breaks for those who can't QUITE afford it without the subsidies.

In any case, most of your positions aren't "centrist." They're very much liberal.

have to charge you with engaging in false equivalence there. There has been no meaningful 'far left' in this country since the late 40s, when HUAC and then McCarthyism smashed it. I wish there were a vibrant and robust 'far left' here and its rennaiscance may still happen in my lifetime. But I'm not holding my breath.

As one example, the Peace and Freedom Party-endorsed candidate for California Senator, Marsha Feinland, received only 1.2% of the vote in the June primary, running against a troglodyte liek Feinstein and even more reprehensible specimens for the Repigs. And Feinland is only moderately left, not 'far left.'

Republican candidate. Now it's defeat Obama at any cost.

Same with my brother, cousins, uncle. My sister is a Ron Paul nut. (Equally loathsome in my mind) They are suddenly all offended about drones, believe the president is building camps for dissenters and is already confiscating cash and gold.
They think that liberals are on a massive spending spree making the government huge, that hyper inflation is right around the corner, and that while forwarding me every vile, bigoted piece of email about the administration that liberals are racists for bringing up race.

choose our families.

My family are leftists, so I'm blessed there. But I grew up in the Bible Belt, so feel a certain kinship with you.;

I'm glad you escaped the dark side and have found a refuge here.

advent of the internet, there is now a general belief that everything on the internet is BS.
Everything on CNN and MSNBC is BS and slanted and untrue. So, you can never prove the BS THEY
say is wrong. Fox promotes this attitude too. They are always running stories about how
the internet is a bad thing. That's part of the plan - to keep people from researching their BS
so they and Rush can spew unfounded shit and propaganda. My father in law refuses to let
his tv land on MSNBC, like it will blow up if it does

you'd get more edification listening to city bus self-talkers or hanging out at the heroin detox center if you want crazy.

nothing a freeper says is valid: everything they say is a lie.

you filthy yourself by exposing yourself to it.

and they vocalize what others think.

a steaming pile of nothing.

money wins.

end of story.

and I want to thank you for being brave going there are reporting back what is going on the crazy train. I just can't do it. It upsets me way to much. God bless you for doing it. You must have a shell of a turtle.

Although, the entertainment value is lessened by the disgust factor.

Enquiring Minds Want to Know.

they are more predictable than the rising of the sun.

Watching the money is far more important than the howlings of the powerless fuckwits that think they are next in line for membership in the 1%, theocrats, cowards, and a bunch of racists.

When was the last substantive surprise or insight gleaned from these fucks?

Nothing wrong with peeking in on them and making some fun or highlighting their shitty character but let's not pretend it is a learning experience unless one has a highly limited and rather naive imagination.

It seems to me they prefer the white anti-Christian Leftist Socialist Mormon (pretty much their description) over the black anti-Christian Leftist Socialist Nazi Muslim (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean).

The freepers hated/hate/will always hate Romney and yet there he is. I think they represent the teabaggers but not the party as a whole.

is on the record saying:

"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate."

I guess rMoney fits as this kind of "leader." He will do as he is told: Sign here.

who make up the primary voters put in Romney - I think it was the electibility question (the rest were simply too insane to be the general election candidate).

The Art of War, says it is vitally important to know one's enemy. I may have to join you in your jaunts to the dark side for that very reason. (Don't know why I never considered doing it before now.)

has a major setback. FAUX News is completely unwatchable now, even for entertainment, but I look forward to checking them and the freepers out when Pres. Obama wins the next election.

it's daily cliff notes gems from the the Freepers.

like this one from Monday:
No woman wants to be submissive to a weak man - she wants to be submissive to a strong man. So, for the man/woman marriage dynamic to work properly, the man must remain strong and dominant at all times (which is hard work) so that the woman will engage her naturally submissive tendencies and will be happy doing

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loudmouth cowards that are too stupid to realize those they love laugh at their idiocy for voting against their best interests.

ideas by pouncing on posts and focusing on the messenger and debate the ideas and causes.

at best you can engage in sophistry.

these people are willingly brainwashed and have no firm grasp of reality. any effort to discuss is wasted with foxbots.

they need to be dealt with in terms they understand: harshness, abuse, and outright hostility.

diplomacy will not work with the current crop of extremist right wingers. they need to be shamed and humiliated before they slither back into their bircher holes.