Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:32 AM
marmar (61,369 posts)
Pope tells 75,000 at Dublin stadium Mass that child abuse by priests ‘remains a mystery’VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI told Irish Catholics on Sunday it is a mystery why priests and other church officials abused children entrusted in their care, undermining faith in the church “in an appalling way.” By describing the decades of child abuse in Catholic parishes, schools and church-run institutions and parishes in Ireland as a “mystery,” the pontiff could further anger rank-and-file faithful in Ireland. Benedict commented on the scandals of sexual abuse and cover-ups by church hierarchy in a pre-recorded video message for an outdoor Mass attended by 75,000 Catholics, many from overseas, in Ireland’s largest sports stadium. Ireland’s prime minister and president attended the Mass, the final event of a Eucharistic Congress aimed at shoring up flagging faith. The weeklong Eucharistic Congress, held by the Vatican every four years in a different part of the world, took place against a backdrop of deep anger over child abuse cover-ups and surveys showing declining weekly Mass attendance in Ireland, where church and state were once tightly entwined. ..................(more) The complete piece is at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pope-to-irish-child-abuse-by-clergy-shook-catholic-faith-calls-motive-a-mystery/2012/06/17/gJQANxbOjV_story.html
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| marmar | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| Capt. Obvious | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| The Magistrate | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| AngryOldDem | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| liberalnationalist | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| sufrommich | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| byeya | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| liberalnationalist | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| byeya | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| Brickbat | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| yellowcanine | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| yellowcanine | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| AngryOldDem | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| meeksgeek | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| global1 | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| rurallib | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| Evasporque | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| hifiguy | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| CBGLuthier | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| KansDem | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| Stargazer09 | Jun 2012 | #26 |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:33 AM
nadinbrzezinski (121,693 posts)
1. Silly Pope, it only remains a mystery since they
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do not want to deal with it.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:34 AM
Capt. Obvious (1,876 posts)
2. It's like electricity
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No one will ever know what causes it, or why electrical currents move from outlet to outlet after repeatedly shocking young children
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:35 AM
The Magistrate (80,938 posts)
3. Jesus, Sir, He Puts It Right Up There With The Trinity, Does He?
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:35 AM
AngryOldDem (8,822 posts)
4. No great mystery to me.
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The institution has had a lot of sick fucks going around and molesting kids, and a lot of other sick fucks in higher places who have aided and abetted it by doing nothing about it.
This is so full of bullshit that Benny should be ashamed of himself. He can do better than this in his latest attempt to justify crime. |
Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:18 AM
liberalnationalist (170 posts)
15. Pope
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Pope = Catholic Bishops = NAMBLA = candidacy of Raw Money
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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:34 AM
UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)
24. They did more than do nothing about it.
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They moved the child molesters from one church to another. Nothing mysterious about that.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:37 AM
sufrommich (13,582 posts)
5. It's not a mystery when everybody knows
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about it. The mystery is why nothing was done about it.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:39 AM
byeya (2,236 posts)
6. Tell me again: Why do we have diplomatic relations with the Vatican?
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And since we do, why aren't RC priests and bishops required to register as agents of a foreign country?
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Response to byeya (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:48 AM
ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)
10. Was it Nixon who did that? Or Carter?
Response to byeya (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:19 AM
liberalnationalist (170 posts)
16. why
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because the Catholic church has lots of control over our government...it was Ronald Reagan who sent the first official Vatican ambassador to appease the religious rightwing including the NAMBLA Catholic Bishops
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Response to liberalnationalist (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:41 AM
byeya (2,236 posts)
20. Does this mean we'll have diplomatic relations with BP and other
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non-national corps when they get big and influential enough?
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:42 AM
Brickbat (14,557 posts)
7. A Sorrowful Mystery, indeed.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:46 AM
NRaleighLiberal (28,798 posts)
8. yeah. gravity is a mystery too - but there is great gravity in his use of this term.
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:47 AM
ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)
9. The mystery's why those kids kept sexually attacking those innocent priests, right, Rat?
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Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:48 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Who was in charge of the cover-ups when he ran the modern version of the Inquisition office? Who ordered priests transfered, litigation stonewalled, documents hidden and cardinals and bishops to lie thru their teeth?
The pope and his many rat fuckers should be prosecuted under RICO. |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:49 AM
yellowcanine (24,478 posts)
11. Actually Benny it is no mystery at all. It is well understood.
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Don't have any accountability and these things are bound to happen. No mystery at all.
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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:56 AM
ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)
12. there's plenty of accountability. Just ask the nuns trying to
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serve the poor and aged, or medically trained nuns suggesting that a life saving abortion was necessary.
They get a lot of attention and attacks from the Rat. |
Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:59 AM
yellowcanine (24,478 posts)
14. Not when it comes to Bishops and pedophile priests.
Response to yellowcanine (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:27 PM
ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)
27. I was trying to tone down my snark-o-meter
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I completely agree with you.
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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:04 AM
AngryOldDem (8,822 posts)
23. We're talking legal accountability here.
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We're talking about bishops who knew for years that there were priests in their dioceses who were abusing kids. All they did was play Priest Roulette and shuffle these priests from parish to parish, or from diocese to diocese, while the list of victims grew. In any other universe, this would be aiding and abetting a felony, and these men would find themselves behind bars.
Is it any coincidence that Bernard Law is now safely ensconsed at the Vatican for life? They protect their own. |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:58 AM
meeksgeek (186 posts)
13. George Carlin - Heavy Mysteries
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:23 AM
global1 (10,604 posts)
17. I Guess We'll Just Have To Take It On Faith Like Many Of The Other Unexplained Things In The......
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Catholic Church.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:25 AM
rurallib (31,382 posts)
18. As much of a mystery as the 2008 financial crisis
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and dealt with just as well.
Avoidance of responsibility - the new religion. Why did I leave that church again? |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:38 AM
Evasporque (2,028 posts)
19. He still cannot understand why his finger smells....
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like poo....
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:54 AM
hifiguy (13,029 posts)
21. Pope Ratzi makes one long for the Borgia popes.
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At least they were honest about their corruption.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:01 AM
CBGLuthier (8,958 posts)
22. 2,000 years and they haven't learned shit. May be time to pack it in.
Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:35 AM
KansDem (24,503 posts)
25. Sure thing, Pope--Myth and superstition have always been "a mystery."
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:46 AM
Stargazer09 (1,072 posts)
26. The mystery is why it still happens
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By now, just about everyone knows that abusive priests are out there. Who really cares WHY they do it?
What are church leaders doing to stop it? When are they going to stop covering up the abuse? As long as they refuse to crack down on the problem, they are allowing it to continue. And countless more kids are going to be abused while the church all but encourages it to happen. Sickening. |

