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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:52 AM

Just how stupid can a school get?

Oh, gangs sometimes wear rosaries.
They also wear shirts, pants and shoes.
Should those be banned in school too?


When Jake Balthazor was sent to the office by his teacher last week, imagine his surprise.

After all, Jake hadn't disrupted class, failed to do his homework or committed any other offense that might lead to disciplinary action at Coon Rapids High School near Minneapolis.

The problem, it turned out, wasn't with what the 15-year-old was doing, but with the black-and-silver rosary beads he was wearing. (Rosary beads are used by many Roman Catholics to offer prayers to the Virgin Mary.)

What Jake sees as a religious symbol worn to honor his sick grandmother, the school district views as a possible gang symbol that could threaten school safety.

http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20120619/SHE06/206190370/Commentary-Student-s-choice-wear-rosary-beads-lands-him-hot-water?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Opinion|s

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Reply Just how stupid can a school get? (Original post)
Archae Jun 2012 OP
JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #1
hobbit709 Jun 2012 #2
trumad Jun 2012 #3
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #4
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #5
Igel Jun 2012 #7
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #8
malthaussen Jun 2012 #6
revolution breeze Jun 2012 #9

Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:15 AM

1. Really? A rosary?

I am an atheist but my gawd, if a kid wants to wear a rosary (and his grandma's dying!) let him. Couldn't they just have him tuck it into his shirt, if it's such a problem?

I grew up Catholic and I know that such things can be a comfort, especially to a kid raised up in that faith who is facing imminent loss.

Julie

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:19 AM

2. Evidently THAT stupid.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:21 AM

3. I had a Priest who made me do the rosary after confession...

The whole fucking Rosary for saying Gods name in vain.

I thought he was pure Gangster.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:26 AM

4. I don't think we've reached the limit yet, but this is certainly a worthy effort. K&R

 

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:11 AM

5. Fortunately our district isn't that stupid. My youngest wears a pentagram every day.

 

She's never been hassled about it. It represents her belief system just as a cross does to Christians. It's mind boggling what some districts take action over.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:27 AM

7. It really depends on the district.

Every once in a while some administrator or school board makes a stupid decision concerning policy, but by and large they address needs.

If a school has a dress code--say, only dark red, blue, and green shirts are allowed--and suddenly two gangs picked dark red and blue as their gang colors, with non-gang members who wore those colors suddenly under threat because of it, the school would fairly quickly change the required colors.

My wife's school has a strict dress code, what colors are allowed, what styles are allowed. Period. Violate it and get sent home.

My old school did, as well. Just a slightly different dress code, because it wasn't in the same neighborhood. My old school's dress code is oriented differently--not towards gang affiliation but towards subcultures and certain fashion trends.

If a certain crowd all started wearing a pentagram and posed a perceived threat to the crescent-moon wearers, with penters and crescers having the occasional fight in the hallways and with your daughter hit or otherwise abused by the crescers, both symbols would be banned and the few who wore it for religious reasons would suffer in order to help the many.

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Response to Igel (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:07 PM

8. Things have changed. When I went to school it was mostly jeans, T-shirts, and a Buck knife.

 

Nobody ever used a knife for fighting. We used fists. Then there was the Izod polo shirt and Docksiders crowd. None of them had Buck knives and I doubt they would even know how to open one - even to this day. Now kids can't even take a pair of nail clippers to school.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:24 AM

6. It's institutional thinking

Somebody makes a dumb decision. It gets out. The institution has two choices: rebuke the culprit, and thereby undermine his authority, or stonewall it and see how far the outrage goes. Most of the time, after a little turmoil, the problem goes away. Occasionally, the whole thing blows up, and then the institution is left running around like a chicken with the head cut off, looking for scapegoats and valorously trying to CYA.

-- Mal

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:16 PM

9. My neice goes to school in San Diego

No red shirts, no blue shirts, shirt must have a collar and be a solid color, no logos, shirt tucked into pants, no jewelry (even pierced ears), no bandanas or hats, if a belt is worn, it may only be so many inches wide with not metal other than the buckle.... The dress code takes up almost three pages in the student handbook. One of her friends got sent home for wearing a belly button ring which was under her properly tucked in shirt (she must have shown it to someone at break or lunch or the campus cop caught it while using his metal detectors to scan her).

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