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Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:05 AM

West must cut appetite for cars and TVs, says UN official

Rich countries will have to stop the consumer high life as part of any deal to heal the world's social and environmental stresses, a top UN official said ahead of a key development summit this week.

"We don't need more cars, more TVs, more whatever" UN Development Program chief Helen Clark told AFP in an interview ahead of the Rio+20 summit starting Wednesday.

The 116 heads of state and government and their populations -- rich and poor -- face "chaos" unless the three day summit can at least lay the groundwork for economic growth that eases poverty and preserves natural resources, said the former New Zealand prime minister.

"I think there is a high level of awareness that the planet is in peril, to put it bluntly," said Clark, who will be one of the key figures at the Rio de Janeiro event


http://www.france24.com/en/20120618-west-must-cut-appetite-cars-tvs-says-un-official

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FarCenter Jun 2012 OP
bhikkhu Jun 2012 #1
FarCenter Jun 2012 #4
TheWraith Jun 2012 #2
pipoman Jun 2012 #3
FLAprogressive Jun 2012 #7
MrSlayer Jun 2012 #5
HiPointDem Jun 2012 #12
MrSlayer Jun 2012 #15
Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #6
FLAprogressive Jun 2012 #8
Zalatix Jun 2012 #9
Zalatix Jun 2012 #9
Zalatix Jun 2012 #9
Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #14
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #16
lunatica Jun 2012 #19
Fumesucker Jun 2012 #13
Archae Jun 2012 #17
Fla_Democrat Jun 2012 #18
Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #20

Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:10 AM

1. Doesn't the West already have cars and TV's?

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:26 AM

4. They don't last forever, and forget about getting new ones.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:12 AM

2. An extremely UN point of view.

Albeit not a very practical one, nor very likely. What will happen is that we'll devise more environmentally friendly means of maintaining our lifestyles, which is basically what has happened all through history.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:16 AM

3. Yep.

we've come a long way..more to come..

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:32 AM

7. +1

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:53 AM

5. The planet is not in peril.

 

I hate when people say this. We as a species are in peril but the planet is just fine.

Good luck getting people not to buy tvs and cars.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:15 AM

12. can't buy them without money.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:05 AM

15. That is true.

 

There seems to be little of that going around.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:55 AM

6. Why doesn't the UN come out about no more bombs and bullets??

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:55 AM

8. Because "the West" (despite our fair share of them) wouldn't be the only ones they could criticize.

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Response to FLAprogressive (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:07 AM

9. +100,000! Damn straight. I hate the UN for that reason.

 

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:41 AM

14. Agreed

A very valid point!

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:50 AM

16. See:

http://www.un.org/disarmament/
http://www.unicef.org/emerg/index_landmines.html
http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ArmsTradeTreaty/

and, inevitably, it's the US trying to block things, especially Republicans:

As long overdue negotiations on an Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) begin in early July under UN auspices, central to that discussion, by virtue of its international supremacy, will be the US export of arms that has facilitated the extensive sale of weapons around the planet. With only 19 out of 195 sovereign nations of the world with no military budget, the ATT conference will attempt to establish international standards for the $55 billion a year industry for the import, export and transfer of all conventional (small arms) weapons.
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Initially suggested by a group of Nobel Peace Prize laureates in 2003, the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 61/89 to establish an ATT working group with 153 nations in support, 19 nations abstained (including China, Russia and Israel) and one nation voted in opposition -- that one nation was the United States. In 2009, the Obama Administration reversed the US position with the caveat that all decisions at the conference be unanimous thereby providing one country with the ability to veto the Treaty.

As the ATT moves toward multilateral consideration in July, significant opposition to the Treaty has surfaced in the Senate with its 'advise and consent' authority on treaties. Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Ks) sent the President a letter of opposition signed by 44 Republican Senators and Sen. Jon Tester (D- Mt) sent a similar letter along with 12 Democrats stating that "the Arms Trade Treaty must not in any way regulate the domestic manufacture, possession or sales of firearms or ammunition."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/renee-parsons/the-export-of-weapons-pas_b_1540165.html

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:11 AM

19. they have and do regularly

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:16 AM

13. I wonder if Helen Clark owns a car or a TV?

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:00 AM

17. "Oh that's different!"

Helen Clark can go screw herself.

I happen to like getting new tech toys like my TV and mp3 player.

And guess what? I ride a bicycle, something Helen Clark probably hasn't been on since she was a teenager.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:03 AM

18. She said, as she was reading her notes

off her new iPad.








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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:40 AM

20. And the poor countries need to stop reproducing at a stupendous rate.

Yeah, a few billion born into poverty each year aren't stressing the planet, either.

Anyone can play this game, try it, it's fun!

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