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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:04 AM Oct 2016

Quiet Desperation at Trump rally, reality setting in, smaller crowds

palpable sadness consumed the Newtown, Pennsylvania recreation center Friday night as Donald Trump took to the stage for his final rally of the day. But what was even more shocking than the somber mood of the room was how much the audience size paled in comparison to the majority of the nominee's prior events.

A mere 25 miles outside of Philadelphia, Trump could barely fill a gymnasium.

The audience demographics, however, mirrored that of the town. The rally was nearly 100% white, with the majority of women in attendance over 40.

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http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/i-went-trump-rally-expecting-violence-what-i-found-was-quiet-desperation

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Quiet Desperation at Trump rally, reality setting in, smaller crowds (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Oct 2016 OP
I'm sure if Trump held his rallies in a strip joint.... Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #1
Que Don Merridith....... MyOwnPeace Oct 2016 #2
Wasn't he teamed up with Howard Cosell? calimary Oct 2016 #29
Dandy Don! Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #40
That was a small crowd. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2016 #3
Yugely small. Bigly small. The smallest. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #4
That's because the dead couldn't make it. marybourg Oct 2016 #5
LOL! Hilarious! I love the smart and funny Dems here!!! Nt adigal Oct 2016 #44
What time was the rally? Philly had a big football game today davidn3600 Oct 2016 #6
Oh, that's right, they were ALL at the stadium watching the game.. denbot Oct 2016 #7
Im just saying you have a political rally at the time of a Eagles game....good luck davidn3600 Oct 2016 #8
Yes, we get that your covering the lack of attendance due to a football game. denbot Oct 2016 #11
Most of those 12M people have TV's zaj Oct 2016 #12
I'll jump any god-damn time and place I choose. denbot Oct 2016 #13
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2016 #19
You are being silly awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #39
I think that's one factor dmr Oct 2016 #18
What are you talking about? Hillary's rally in Philly was enormous. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #20
7000 people is a nice turnout but not enormous. book_worm Oct 2016 #23
Good thing she was able to find a "smaller venue." SunSeeker Oct 2016 #24
Sanders had enormous crowds MFM008 Oct 2016 #28
It was held beside AFSCME headquarters too. apcalc Oct 2016 #35
No. Her rally was held at Penn Park. At 8:30 pm. As temperatures dropped into the low 50s. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #36
If you look at the feed you can see "AFSCME" across the top of a building next to the venue. apcalc Oct 2016 #41
I don’t see it, but regardless, what is your point? SunSeeker Oct 2016 #42
No, just to highlight and show AFSCME supports her, strong union support in PA ,smart choice is all. apcalc Oct 2016 #45
The rally in Newtown was on Friday. Eagles played on Sunday. ReformedGOPer Oct 2016 #21
+1 Lucinda Oct 2016 #17
Odd that, as both the first two debates outperformed televised football viewership. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #27
The rally in Newton was on Friday night Kaleva Oct 2016 #34
Glad to see the "crowds" diminishing ailsagirl Oct 2016 #9
Loser stink repels crowds. nt SunSeeker Oct 2016 #10
That's near me. drm604 Oct 2016 #14
LOSERS!!!! Feeling the Bern Oct 2016 #15
Positively unspirational. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #16
If it's suburban Philly that would explain the poor attendance book_worm Oct 2016 #22
He is running very poorly everywhere. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #25
"Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way" stone space Oct 2016 #26
They only lost the summer soldiers. Only once you purify the movement can you purify the country. Bucky Oct 2016 #30
winners enid602 Oct 2016 #31
The rally, as it was, was held on friday. Hobo Oct 2016 #32
I'll wager the majority of Newtown is agin' him. apcalc Oct 2016 #33
The majority of all Americans are agin' him. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #37
and how old were the men? niyad Oct 2016 #38
I'm not accepting that these gawkers will all vote. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #43

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
2. Que Don Merridith.......
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:11 AM
Oct 2016

"the party's over.........."

Sorry, showing some age here. It was a "thing" from early Monday Night Football.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
29. Wasn't he teamed up with Howard Cosell?
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Oct 2016

Here - I'll show my age too!

As a matter of fact, as I recall, Howard Cosell sort of "named" SNL.

I think it was ABC that put him on, late on Saturday nights, in a new series that fall, called "Saturday Night Live with Howard Cosell." And His Hilarious Bombastic-ness served as host for a kind of variety show for late-night, after the prime time lineup and the local news ended.

That same season, NBC introduced a new comedy revue show that, as I recall, was named "NBC's Saturday Night." With these crazy people who called themselves "The Not Ready for Prime Time Players," many of whom came out of Chicago's renowned comedy troupe "Second City." And there were different guest hosts every time, like George Carlin (who I think was the premiere night's host), Steve Martin, Robert Klein, and other faves. Some young long-haired dude named Lorne Michaels was running the show.

As the season wore on, NBC's show took off like a rocket. ABC's offering floundered and was eventually canceled, I think, by or before the end of season one. But somehow, its name took hold. People started referring to the NBC version as "Saturday Night Live." They'd already started getting that title thing mixed up while both shows were still on, opposite each other. I remember having to correct people, especially since, by then, I worked at NBC and when we were all in New York the first year of our assignments on our new news network, we worked at 30 Rock, just like the SNL crowd did, and often you'd find yourself riding up in the elevator with one of them after visiting the commissary downstairs.

Just a little tidbit from a long-ago time... (bet I'm older than you, MyOwnPeace! LOL)

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
6. What time was the rally? Philly had a big football game today
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:37 AM
Oct 2016

Most are going to choose football over politics.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
7. Oh, that's right, they were ALL at the stadium watching the game..
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:48 AM
Oct 2016

Quite the fig leaf you constructed..

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
8. Im just saying you have a political rally at the time of a Eagles game....good luck
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:51 AM
Oct 2016

For what it's worth, Hillary had to change her rally to a smaller venue too in Philly.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
11. Yes, we get that your covering the lack of attendance due to a football game.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:24 AM
Oct 2016

The gate was possibly 69,176, out of a state population of 12.79 million. If ever single Cheeto Jesus loving idiot in the entire state were the only ones in attendance at the Philly game, that would only leave a possible twelve million seven hundred thousand possible Cheeto Jesus loving idiots available to attend the rally. Out of a possible 12,730,000 rubes, he couldn't draw enough to fill a HIGH SCHOOL GYM!

Dude, you've got no cover on this, but please Sir, carry on..


On Edit; changed game to rally.
On Second Edit, Oh fuck me, changed seventy to seven..

denbot

(9,899 posts)
13. I'll jump any god-damn time and place I choose.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:35 AM
Oct 2016

It is not conclusions that are everywhere, as much as delusions of Trump Trolls are anywhere.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. You are being silly
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:17 PM
Oct 2016

to think a football game could not affect attendance. I live in DFW, and know that the best time to go to the grocery store on a Sunday is when the Cowboys game is on. Stores are damn near deserted. If a football game can affect necessities like food purchases, it can affect a political rally.

On edit: yes, I know enthusiasm is down, but we cannot afford to take this asshole lightly because polls are trending in our direction.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
18. I think that's one factor
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:18 AM
Oct 2016

I've noticed Trump's crowds are getting smaller. Probably for many reasons, and one bigly reason is football.

Back in the 80s, my sister went into labor during a televised Dolphin game. She & her husband were actually conflicted over what their priority was.

She lasted until halftime, then they had to race to the hospital where he got to watch the rest of the game.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
28. Sanders had enormous crowds
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Oct 2016

Now he draws them in support of HRC.
Romney crowds in the last days were large ......

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
42. I don’t see it, but regardless, what is your point?
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 06:34 PM
Oct 2016

That the over 7,000 people that braved the cold night at that park are all just AFSCME union members who just happened to wander by? I'm sure there was a McDonalds nearby too. Does that mean these are all just wayward McDonald's employees and not Clinton supporters?

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
45. No, just to highlight and show AFSCME supports her, strong union support in PA ,smart choice is all.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

Showcase union support...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
27. Odd that, as both the first two debates outperformed televised football viewership.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
Oct 2016

"Most are going to choose football over politics..."
Odd that, as both the first two debates outperformed televised football viewership.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
15. LOSERS!!!!
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:00 AM
Oct 2016

I hope you enjoy that silver medal, losers! We're going for the gold! Shit, we're going for platinum.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
22. If it's suburban Philly that would explain the poor attendance
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:30 AM
Oct 2016

as he is running very poorly in the Philly suburbs.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
26. "Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way"
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016
So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say.






Bucky

(53,986 posts)
30. They only lost the summer soldiers. Only once you purify the movement can you purify the country.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:32 PM
Oct 2016

whoops, nearly typed in "race".

enid602

(8,606 posts)
31. winners
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:44 PM
Oct 2016

But I'll bet it's the cream of the crop that's left at the final rallies. Can't wait to see the photos.

Hobo

(757 posts)
32. The rally, as it was, was held on friday.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:55 PM
Oct 2016

Newtown,


Its a pretty upper middle class to upper class area. almost 100% white, Our local paper said attendance it was between 3,000 - 4,000 people. Its hope 30 north east of Philadelphia. Bucks county is a swing county, sometimes red, sometimes blue.

Hobo

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
33. I'll wager the majority of Newtown is agin' him.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Oct 2016

Supposedly he is doing terrible in the Philly suburban area. The Newtown population is highly educated.

lindysalsagal

(20,638 posts)
43. I'm not accepting that these gawkers will all vote.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:39 PM
Oct 2016

They want to see him because of his ridiculous TV crap.

They could just as easily stay home on the 8th.

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