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sinkingfeeling

(51,431 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:17 AM Oct 2016

Just listened to Ohio Gov. John Kasich on CBS. He's the one the GOP

should have run. He's sane, can make a complete sentence, willing to cross the aisle, and has a coherent set of policies.

Think how this election cycle could have been. Intelligent debates and real discussions of real issues facing the country.

I still would have voted for Hillary, but my blood pressure would have been lower.

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Just listened to Ohio Gov. John Kasich on CBS. He's the one the GOP (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 OP
He gotten nowhere in the primary. LisaL Oct 2016 #1
He stands no chance in four years exboyfil Oct 2016 #2
Cotton is a radical and it would be easy to paint him as one. Ask him if he still endorses Trump. LuvLoogie Oct 2016 #11
He's slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. MADem Oct 2016 #13
Cotton is a liar like Trump, thinks he's a foreign affairs expert, sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #15
While not trying to be flippant Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2016 #17
Tom was the ringleader for the 47 traitors Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2016 #21
He's a moron mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #3
He was the one... Mike Nelson Oct 2016 #4
He is extremely conservative, but I opined, back at the start of this mess, the very MADem Oct 2016 #5
Don't be fooled.... mrsv Oct 2016 #6
Mine would have been higher BeyondGeography Oct 2016 #7
From Ohio, the state that brought you Tamir Rice's execution AND the Kent State shootings yesteryear ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #8
He's extremely conservative; he'd be a disaster for working families, dawg Oct 2016 #9
Um, I like this election cycle because we're going to win Peaches999 Oct 2016 #10
And Kasich got about 1% of the primary vote BlueStreak Oct 2016 #12
Kasich's whole mercuryblues Oct 2016 #14
He just said..."I believe that the Republican party needs to evolve, or I won't be a part of it" True Earthling Oct 2016 #16
that would be very ironic Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2016 #18
Oh, yeah . . . because he cares about people SO much . . . HughBeaumont Oct 2016 #19
So, you think the GOP should have run a candidate who might have won. Mika Oct 2016 #20

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. He stands no chance in four years
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oct 2016

I am betting on Tom Cotton, and I think he will be a problem for Clinton.

LuvLoogie

(6,903 posts)
11. Cotton is a radical and it would be easy to paint him as one. Ask him if he still endorses Trump.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:33 AM
Oct 2016

Get him on tape.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. He's slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:35 AM
Oct 2016

He won't get traction with the segments needed to win an election, either. He's too extreme, and it shows.

Minorities, women, the gay community--they'll run from him like he's a saner version of Trump.

Trump should have picked HIM as his running mate--maybe he didn't want to appear TOO old, as Cotton is quite young.

Here's Tom in all his glory, brought to you by professional scold Medea Benjamin (of "We love Ron Paul" fame):

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/10-horrifying-facts-about-gop-senator-tom-cotton

I often disagree with her in terms of both style and substance, but this isn't one of those times!


sinkingfeeling

(51,431 posts)
15. Cotton is a liar like Trump, thinks he's a foreign affairs expert,
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:43 AM
Oct 2016

but can speak and probably doesn't have women claiming he groped them. I detest every one of his response letters he's sent me. He's like Trump in that he's a know-it-all.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,384 posts)
17. While not trying to be flippant
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

Cotton is a loon (but the Republicans will ultimately have to run somebody, so why not him?). I wouldn't consider him to be much of a threat to Hillary, assuming that she doesn't majorly screw up the country in four years (which Republicans shouldn't count on).

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,541 posts)
21. Tom was the ringleader for the 47 traitors
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

Who signed that letter ti Iran, urging them to not accept the President's conditions on a treaty. It boggles my mind those folks don't understand how things are done.....

Mike Nelson

(9,940 posts)
4. He was the one...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

...who would have bested Hillary (or Bernie) in the General. He's ultra right-wing but it just slips off his persona. Good thing they did not nominate him!



MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. He is extremely conservative, but I opined, back at the start of this mess, the very
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

same thing you have said.

He started running ads in NH and he jumped up fast--he went from nothing to polling very competitively. Had Trump not gotten up in it, he might have pushed through--he came across as very "folksy" and approachable and whoever did his ads did an incredibly good job. They were "folksy" and approachable, too.

mrsv

(209 posts)
6. Don't be fooled....
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

I live in Ohio and worked for state government for 30 plus years...Kasich is an asshole...

BeyondGeography

(39,339 posts)
7. Mine would have been higher
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:29 AM
Oct 2016

He would have won, IMO. And then he would have had to throw so many bones to the right, starting with the SC and social spending, his presidency would have been ruinous.

Enjoy the Trump moment; I know I am, because 2020 will make us nostalgic for him on at least one level. We will never have this weak an opponent again.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
8. From Ohio, the state that brought you Tamir Rice's execution AND the Kent State shootings yesteryear
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:29 AM
Oct 2016

... meet John Kasich, the guy who anyway is still a better choice than Trump or Cruz or Rubio or Carson or Fiorina or Pence or John Ryan ... <yawn>... I'm happy with the nominee they picked. As the spoof Hillary said on SNL, it's his genorosity: He's handed her this election.

 

Peaches999

(118 posts)
10. Um, I like this election cycle because we're going to win
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:31 AM
Oct 2016

Arguably, you could say it may have been easier for us to take back the Senate with Kasich at the top (this is a contrarian view but almost every senate candidate is outpolling Trump. That wouldn't have happened with Kasich.). But regardless, I'm glad Trump is at the top of the ballot as the GOP nominee.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
12. And Kasich got about 1% of the primary vote
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:33 AM
Oct 2016

This is the party that puts up clowns like Ben Carson, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, and Herman Cain.

Trump wasn't the first clown, only the latest one. I see no evidence that there are any adults in the GOP these days.

mercuryblues

(14,519 posts)
14. Kasich's whole
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:40 AM
Oct 2016

shtick boiled down to Vote for me, I am not crazy. Of course the nutbaggers rejected him outright.

True Earthling

(832 posts)
16. He just said..."I believe that the Republican party needs to evolve, or I won't be a part of it"
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:54 AM
Oct 2016

Sounds like he's thinking of switching sides...

John Kasich speaks out on trade and says he 'won't be a part of' the GOP if it doesn't 'evolve'

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-trade-republicans-2016-10

"I will tell you that if the Republican Party does not evolve, the Republican Party is going to die," Kasich said. "The Republican Party cannot be antitrade, anti-immigrant, not out there practicing the politics of people, you know, the issues surrounding drug addiction and mental illness and the cost of prescription drugs and healthcare and student debt and all of these things are very personal to people now.

"And if the party wants to have an ideological debate, it's never going to win anything in a major way," he continued. "So I do believe that the party needs to evolve, or I won't be a part of it."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,384 posts)
18. that would be very ironic
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016

since he was one of Gingrich's top deputies during the 1990's and vociferous opponent of the Clintons. Of course, the Republican Party, as noxious as it was in the 1990's with Gingrich running the House and being the de facto leader of the GOP, wasn't nearly as bad as it is now and still had more than a few "reasonable" Republicans whom still believed in government and compromising for the greater good of the country. It seems like the Tea Party radicalism is getting too much for even Kasich.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
19. Oh, yeah . . . because he cares about people SO much . . .
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:24 AM
Oct 2016

He attempted to privatize the turnpike and push through a reprehensible piece of anti-union legislation in year one (failed miserably on both counts, BTW).

His educational blueprint is the stuff that Disaster Capitalism thrives on.

Oh, and did I mention how well he fares with the salt of the earth?

Kat$hit: He'll Do For the Nation What Lehman Did For America's Economy.

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