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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe debate winner will be the candidate who address driveless cars and their
impact? How are we going to deal with millions of drones looking in our widows and backyards? Manage the millions of people displaced by technical changes?
metroins
(2,550 posts)That's a topic that I wouldn't even broach.
Both candidates are not tech savvy, an answer in either direction would polarize voters. Anti drone will alienate young voters, pro drone alienates old and poor voters.
I'd give a statement about how technology is great and we're looking to make it safe as possible. Then transition into how medical advances are going leaps and bounds.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)losers.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)placate people afraid of it into believing that someone can stop it from coming, no.
citood
(550 posts)And I'd venture to guess that polls listing the topics most important to Americans have driverless cars very low on the list.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)unequivocally that if she is elected, she will undertake a nationwide crusade to end standardized testing in public schools.
I believe quite a few classroom teachers would be on board for that.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It will probably have zero substance and mostly be an opportunity for Trump to howl, throw shit and pound his chest.
Separation
(1,975 posts)Majority of Americans are in favor of it, I don't see why it shouldn't.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)and almost certainly it is a major factor in why Gary Johnson is drawing the numbers he is.
We should push harder for it, and force Trump to explain how his likely AG Chris Christie promises to march into legal states and start arresting pot smokers.
Watch how quickly Colorado goes from being a "toss-up" to strongly in the blue column again.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)And I bet you have a phantom 4!
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Yes, there are negative issues and many challenges remaining. But the positives outweigh the negatives by a country mile.
We don't need people panicking and obstructing this life saving technology. There is nothing positive that can come out of either candidate discussing it. There is not enough time to properly discuss the subject in this format, and all it would do is spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Sorry, but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. We ALL need safe transportation a lot more than a few people need the horrible, stressful, dangerous job of driving drunk, angry strangers around.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Over the road drivers will be the first to go. Taxi service will be next.
The next POTUS will be facing a very high unemployment rate. (my guess 50-60%)
Collapse of the university system and social services, the change will be very dramatics and will take decades for society to adjust.
The candidates should know this and put it front and center,
IMO.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)First, it is going to be a decades long process, not a sudden change. One of the things you have to consider is costs. The newer technology is always rather expensive, and not affordable to the average consumer, nor may it be initially cost effective to the driving industries. Then you have cities, and states that may regulate differently.
Most likely (IMHO), over-the-road trucking would be one of the last effected industries. There is a lot of both state and federal regulations regarding commercial driving, and with the new technology, I'm fairly confident it too will be regulated. I feel that in all probability, the trucking industry will involve platooning earlier than they will go completely autonomous. There is a cost savings to simply have a train of trucks that communicate internally with each other, and have a human in the lead vehicle controlling it.
Now hopefully the change will be gradual as to not have a significant impact on unemployment rates. As has been mentioned in several other threads, there will be areas where autonomy will initially struggle, and the human will still be needed to operate the vehicles. This will require a large investment in our infrastructure on not just the federal, but the state and local levels as well. Which will in turn actually create jobs.
Then, one could also ponder the side industries that this newer one will build a market for. Conversion services, regulatory and inspection agencies, smart roads, short route drivers, etc.
I do not fear such a dramatic collapse that will take decades to adjust, as I feel that the process will take decades, and we will easily adjust as we progress forward.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)interesting, and good for you!
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I've been telling people for years, at least since the DARPA grand challenge, that someday our cars would be better drivers than us.
In 2015, I got burned out on dispatch, so I went back to driving for a year, studying the technology, thinking about how radar, LiDAR, and sonar would figure out how to safely do this.
There are several challenges remaining. REASONABLE regulation is necessary. And it it likely that, at some point, there will be a shocking crash or two. But overall it will save lives and prevent devastating injuries.
As for the jobs - I think it would be a lot more useful and humane to create and fund a lot more direct care jobs to help our aging population. We definitely need more professional caregivers and fewer family members forced into unrelieved caregiver duties.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,362 posts)Pool nets
Or shotguns. One of the two. If there are "millions" looking in my window, I'll rely on lack of proper traffic control to take out most of them.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)Those flavorless flakes of stone have no place in a functioning democracy.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)It's your pet subject, but it's way, way down the list for most people.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)means nothing.
Brother Buzz
(36,389 posts)I want them to addressed the promised flying car. I've been patiently waiting for forty years.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,389 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,155 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)but those damn Google cars.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)That technology is many years away. Not proven that self driving cars are any safer. Yes some will point to self driving cars having fewer accident rates,but as a poster pointed out on a another thread on this subject self driving cars have amounted to less than 1% of the amount of driving people do in a single day. Also self driving cars have been restricted to limited controlled areas with a speed limit of 25 mph. So they better have far fewer accidents.
Endorsing self driving cars would be a loser for either candidate. The transportation industry is a major chunk of our economy. If you were a teamster driver? Would like to hear Hilary say we are ready to move to self driving cars? Essentially putting you out of a job. I don't think so.
How about a sanitation worker. Self driving garbage trucks are coming. So goodbye to your job soon. I don't think anybody who works in the transportation industry wants to hear this.