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Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:06 AM

John McCain ACCUSES Republicans of Using FOREIGN MONEY Against Obama




John McCain has indirectly accused his fellow Republicans of using Citizens United to get foreign money into their campaign to defeat President Obama.






Just when you think John McCain has gone completely off his nut and is going to spend the rest of his golden years trapped in a vortex or warmongering and 2008 bitterness, a flash of the old McCain emerges when he talks about campaign finance. Sen. McCain long ago proved himself not to be the foreign policy expert that the media makes him out to be, but he does understand campaign finance and the destruction being wrought on our country via Citizens United.



Sen. Oscar the Grouch (McCain) was correct. The right wing ideologues on the Supreme Court seemingly didn’t give a second thought to the can of worms they were opening with the Citizens United decision. McCain had to say maybe foreign money is coming into system through super PACs because thanks the Supreme Court’s decision, we have no idea where the money is actually coming from.



Since there are no disclosure laws for super PACS, there is nothing stopping any foreign national from trying to buy an American election. We have no idea if the Iranians or the Chinese are dumping millions of dollars into our electoral process in order to influence governmental policy. The truth is that is it almost a certainty that foreign money is being spent on our elections, and almost all of that cash is being raised and spent to support Republicans and defeat President Obama.




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http://www.politicususa.com/mccain-citizens-united-foreign-money.html


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Reply John McCain ACCUSES Republicans of Using FOREIGN MONEY Against Obama (Original post)
Segami Jun 2012 OP
bemildred Jun 2012 #1
EFerrari Jun 2012 #2
bemildred Jun 2012 #3
EFerrari Jun 2012 #9
bemildred Jun 2012 #11
loyalsister Jun 2012 #4
leveymg Jun 2012 #5
EFerrari Jun 2012 #8
siligut Jun 2012 #6
emulatorloo Jun 2012 #7
treestar Jun 2012 #10
no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #12

Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:08 AM

1. Money is fungible, it has no nationality.

You can't allow domestic money and still keep out foreign money.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:09 AM

2. Why do you think McCain is doing this?

I don't understand what's in it for him.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:36 AM

3. One can only speculate.

Last edited Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:39 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

And my reasons are not those Mr McCain might give, so YMMV:

There are two things:

1.) The Citizens United decision moves power from the party organizations (national, state, and local) to wealthy contributors. It is fundamentally destabilizing for our political system as it was. But anyway, McCain is an old-school national-party hack, so he views that negatively. It could well mean a loss of influence and money for him and his cronies too, no need to go through the party organization anymore, you can just go buy and elect your politicians directly, e.g. the whole Tea Party fandango, the various recent incumbent/party-hack primary losses in favor of the independently funded, Mr Adelson's activities and the Koch brothers etc. So generally, I expect the party organizations to object to Citizens United and loose political money in the same way they object to open primaries, because it reduces party power and control. That problem is the first thing that popped into my head back when I first read about the USSC decision, so I am gratified to see it playing out.

2.) The good money vs. bad money idea has to be maintained, for much the same reason, because our political system is addicted to "contribution" money, so when somebody (Mitt) starts blurring the established lines, they need to be corrected, in order to not undermine the whole dog-and-pony show, to maintain the pretense of order and lawful politics.

You can almost tell what side (party/insurgent wingnut) people are on by where they come down on that issue, for example Carville is old school and would line up with McCain on this issue.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:35 PM

9. Interesting. I would never have thought of that.

Makes perfect sense.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:15 PM

11. Well, why was the national party unenthusiastic about the Wisconsin recall?

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Because it doesn't like populist/insurgent politics much, that's why, and once you understand that, you are no longer surprised when the national parties take a dim view of 3rd party and populist movements (OWS, Tea Party), fifty state campaigns, and recalls/initiatives driven by enraged public reaction to regressive public policy. How long is the list now of things that have been "off the table" because the National parties don't want real political reform? How much did we have to fight to get publicly elected Senators, womens right to vote, to end slavery, etc. etc.? Our ruling elites are elitists, and they begrudge us every little concession.

I know it seems weird, and you aren't supposed to talk about it, it's like taboo, but it's just amazing how often it matches up with what happens.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:46 AM

4. From a glass half full perspective

I think McCain's commitment to campaign finance reform was real. At the same time, his war monger side leads me to believe he has deep contempt for some other countries.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:07 PM

5. A moment of lucidity by an otherwise senile mind is a thing to behold.

To repeat what someone has said.

It could simply be that McCain and Adelson have had a falling out, and this is what McCain really thinks.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:33 PM

8. To my cynical mind, it looks like some kind of hold up.

I wonder what he wants. Maybe he wants to trade for a position for his nutty daughter.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:11 PM

6. Contributions are an investment

That money expects something in return. Foreign money may not have America's best interests at heart.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:14 PM

7. One of McCain's signature issues was campaign finance reform.

This is something he worked on in congress with Russ Feingold back before he became the 08 nominee.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:35 PM

10. Why would Iran favor Republicans?

Saber rattling about attacking them is more likely. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.

Or China for that matter?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 06:43 PM

12. McCain is a maverick.

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