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I think the biggest travesty in the media is the double standard being applied with respect to Hillary's e-mails. Compared to the immediately preceding administration, Hillary's e-mails were just a rounding error. Yet, no one raises this on TV for context. Instead, for every crazy thing Trump says, does or proposes, the media goes back to e-mails in order to push a false equivalency.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-rudoy/breaking-22-million-white_b_10267750.html
Up to 22 million White House emails may be missing, according to the US Attorney General. The emails, requested as part of a congressional investigation, could not be produced because they were sent on a non-governmental email server.
Heres a video of the Attorney Generals announcement.
This appears to be a violation of the Presidential Records Act and the Hatch Act. Should we impeach Hillary Clinton now or later?
Not so fast.
The 22 million emails were lost in 2007. Under the Bush Administration.
Yes, Bush. George W, to be exact.
Was anyone impeached? No.
Was anyone prosecuted? No.
Were the Republicans up in arms? No.
Was Karl Rove on Fox News every night calling for anyone to resign/be impeached/ be fired?
No.
Because Karl Rove, Bush chief-of-staff at the time, deleted them.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)major debacle
(508 posts)22 MILLION??? You just blew my mind!
Actually, not so much... it's totally in keeping with Republican Family Values.
spanone
(135,792 posts)was anyone even investigated? no
global1
(25,224 posts)jaxind
(1,074 posts)The Republicans and The Media always seem to have amnesia when it's convenient for them! Why isn't the media bringing this up when the republicans come down on Hilary for her deleted emails??!!
blue neen
(12,319 posts)This continued attacks by Republicans about Hillary's emails may end up backfiring on them. They deserve it.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)If the corporate news media had been doing their jobs in the last decades the Republicans, at least the present day knuckle-draggers, would be already on the ash heap of history.
Poor Dubya was suffering those low poll numbers near the end and they just couldn't bring themselves to kick a dog when he was down. Even a nasty vicious beast like the GOP, if it meant it would damage the false equivalency that they have to keep up to maintain the pretense that it is/was all a matter of "opinion" instead of confronting the liars with facts. Because then the lying butt-hurt scumbuckets would refuse to come on their shows or allow them access, and uninvite them to their big cocktail parties.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)It's okay for Democrats to break the law because Republicans broke the law too.
No, I'm not a Republican. I don't support Republicans. I don't vote for Republicans. I think Republicans are idiots.
But I have known since I was in grade school that "everybody does it" is not a defense.
Not as bad as Bush.
SunSeeker
(51,513 posts)Hillary only deleted personal emails that she had every right to delete. She did not "break the law." Everyone does indeed delete personal emails. But not everyone deletes governmental emails, and Hillary has never alleged that; certainly the OP does not allege that.
The OP is about the GOP's mind-boggling hypocrisy. The GOP is apoplectic because Hillary deleted personal emails, but did not give a shit that the Bush administration deleted 22 million government business emails.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)And validating it at the same time. Whatever the Bush administration did or did not do is not relevant to any accusation made against Hillary Clinton.
Charge: You killed my dog.
Defense 1: You murdered your wife.
Defense 2. Your dog was attacking me.
Defense 3: I can prove I didn't do it.
The first defense is entirely irrelevant, and does not even claim that you did not kill the dog, let alone assert any offer of proof. Claiming that you are a good guy because a dog killer is better than a murderer is begging the point, because the accusation is merely that you are a dog killer. It's called diversion; calling attention to the faults of others to avoid notice being given to your own faults. No need to divert when one is innocent, so it is a tacit admission of guilt.
Defenses two and are legitimate claims of innocence, and assert or imply ability to prove same.
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)Most folks do. Back in the 2000s, folks sometimes debated whether emails are a record or whether they were transitory communications. Even today there are debates as to whether emails should be subject to record retention.
The activities of the Bush administration shed light on what was reasonable when the Obama administration came into office. When Comey uses the word careless, it assumes a standard of care.
You can't view email practices in a vacume. Yet, people do wrt Clinton. This is why a Republican congressman saw no issue with attacking Hillary even though his official business card listed a private email address.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)investigating, etc.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)So now every bad thing Bush/Cheney did and got away with is OK for a Democrat to do?
SunSeeker
(51,513 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:59 AM - Edit history (1)
She didn't delete State Department emails, let alone 22 million government business emails, as Rove & company did. She only deleted personal emails, which she has a right to do and does not violate any laws.
The OP is about the GOP's mind-boggling hypocrisy. The GOP is apoplectic because Hillary deleted personal emails, but the GOP did not give a shit that the Bush administration deleted 22 million government business emails, nor did they give a shit when Colin Powell deleted ALL of his State Department emails that were on his unsecured private AOL email account.
Your attempt to equate what Hillary did to what Rove did is shameful false equivalence completely unhinged from facts and reality.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)It's more like the guy in front drove drunk through the intersection and clipped 5 cars and ran over 3 dogs. And Hillary ran a red light, and she's the one that got a ticket.
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)...no matter what the person in front did, the person who ran the red light still deserves the ticket.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)One can understand that the person who ran the red light is a tad pissed off that the dog killer "walked away".
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Like you, I haven't forgotten the atrocities perpetrated by the "W" administration.
The M$M is derelict in their journalism duties to draw parallels when RWingers bring up their phony scandals about anyone with a D by their name.
U Rock!
yardwork
(61,539 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)red dog 1
(27,771 posts)Karl Rove is the main reason why former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman has been in federal prison for the past few years
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betsuni
(25,380 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)is the left/dems continue to allow without challenge 1200 think tank scripted radio stations to determine what stories get buzz.