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Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:57 PM

I AGREE WITH THOM HARTMANN about Republicans And Fox News Engaging In ‘Treason’

Thom Hartmann Says Republicans And Fox News Engaging In ‘Treason’
Video at the url below
by Tommy Christopher | 9:04 am, June 14th, 2012


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Inauguration Day meeting of GOP lawmakers, along with pollster Frank Luntz and former Speaker Newt Gingrich, detailed in Robert Draper‘s Do Not Ask What Good We Do. Liberal radio and TV host Thom Hartmann makes the case that the Republicans (and Fox News, by virtue of Luntz’s involvement) are guilty of “treason, or sedition, or whatever it was,” and makes a nice smoking-gun catch from Friday’s Real Time with Bill Maher.

In his book Do Not Ask What Good We Do, author Robert Draper details a meeting which took place the night of President Obama’s inauguration, in which Republican Congressional leaders made a pact to “show united and unyielding opposition to the president’s economic policies” in order to regain power, and eventually take the White House in 2012. The facts surrounding this meeting are not in doubt; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says he was “glad and honored to be part of it.”

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they conspired to block everything. If you need a smoking gun, check their record, since that meeting, of voting against things that were their own ideas just because President Obama decided to support them. Whether this amounts to “treason” or “sedition,” as Thom Hartmann suggests, is a matter of semantics that are, I’m sure, intended to be provocative (remember how Rick Perry‘s invocation of the crime set off the outrage grenades).

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Can you imagine if, on September 12, 2001, a group of Democrats got together to plot blocking all of George W. Bush‘s policies, no matter what they were?

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On Friday’s Real Time with Bill Maher, Dougherty revealed that a Republican Senator, not a staffer, not a strategist, but an actual US Senator, told him that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had issued sickening marching orders to his caucus. Here’s what Dougherty said: I spoke to a Senator earlier this week, and he told me that, a Republican Senator told me that Mitch McConnell has told his conference that ‘We’re not doing anything, we won’t make a single move between now and the election, because any move could be risky, and all of the shit is sliding down on President Obama.’

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The Republicans aren’t going to make a single move between now and the election, because anything they do carries with it the “risk” that the economy improves.

Is that “treason?”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thom-hartmann-says-republicans-and-fox-news-engaging-in-treason/

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trueblue2007 Jun 2012 OP
NeverEnuff Jun 2012 #1
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #2
jillan Jun 2012 #3
trueblue2007 Jun 2012 #8
quinnox Jun 2012 #4
freshwest Jun 2012 #5
mrmpa Jun 2012 #6
Joe the Revelator Jun 2012 #7
xfundy Jun 2012 #9
just1voice Jun 2012 #10

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:17 PM

1. Yes

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:19 PM

2. They have said they hate the US government and wish to destroy it. And they

have said they hate the majority of Americans (all liberals, all women, and all brown people) and wish them dead (at one time or another).

If that's not treason, I don't know what is.

Now watch the RW water carriers jump all over me for saying this.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:22 PM

3. I've been saying this for awhile, and getting verbally beat up for using the T word so I

am thrilled that this is *finally* being brought out in the public conversation.

Proud to kick and rec!!

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Response to jillan (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:11 AM

8. T is a bad word??? TREASON is what the GOP is doing. OBSTRUCTION

GOP IS HURTING MY ABILITY TO HAVE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:25 PM

4. its obvious

 

the republicans have been undermining the country for a long time, all they care about is the top 5-10%, the whole country is expendable for their goal of keeping the wealthy folks living the high life.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:36 PM

5. I feel it too.. but aren't charges of treaons, high crimes and misdemeanours brought by Congress?

We know who they want to impeach. As far as legally going after this cabal of economic traitors, as Perot would name them most likely... Who can do it?

They are the termites eating the house down from the ground up and now they're near the roof. Any legal persons here who could figure this one out?

This is the full video which I will listen to and look for some Constitutional law mentioned. I believe this is part of the Koch brothers doing, with their secret meetings across the country, too.


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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:57 AM

6. I posted this the other day. Yes it is treason.............

every republican who has taken an oath to Grover Norquist, who has stated that they are against any bill submitted by the President, who has not voted for or submitted any bill(s) for economic growth and stability, should be arrested. They should be charged with treason and conspiracy to commit treason. I think that "force" does not necessarily mean "armed force", but the repugs use "refusal" as their show of force.

STATUTE-
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place
subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to
overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the
United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force
the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the
execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize,
take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the
authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

-HEAD-
Sec. 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

-STATUTE-
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or
teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of
overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or
the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession
thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by
force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any
such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any
such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates,
sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed
matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity,
desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any
government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts
to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society,
group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the
overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or
violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any
such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes
thereof -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by
the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five
years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in
this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for
employment by the United States or any department or agency
thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize",
with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include
the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the
regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units
of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:22 AM

7. Kick

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:57 AM

9. It's more than obvious

their obstructions of EVERY effort Obama has made are plain for anyone to see. Of course they deny this, for they are assholes, more concerned about elections than the American people. Yes, that is treason.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:11 PM

10. Torture camp creators and WMD conspirators are clearly traitors yet...

 

We're told to forget about ever holding them responsible. I agree that conspiring to ruin the U.S. economy is treason but it has no meaning whatsoever if that treason will never be recognized by a "treasonous" Justice Department or, dare I say, a president who refused to investigate and prosecute as well.

Simply put, our criminal govt allows traitors to commit treason and that in itself is treason. Sorry, but there is no other way to view those whom enable traitors.

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