I'm fed UP: CNN having a discussion about how bad the emails are for the dems,

[Gabi Hayes]

that halfwit Kailey Mc whatever saying that Forty PERCENT of Bernie supporters aren't voting for H.

the dems NEED to start talking about, hey! the republican is a pathological liar! he's either afflicted with clinical insanity or dementia praecox

when are they going to start hammering that home at EVERY opportunity?

look how they destroyed gore and Kerry's credibility with nonstop lies and distortion, and tried with Obama, but he was too LIKEABLE for that to work.

Hillary is far closer to Gore and Kerry, in affect, and is suffering as a result of a 20+ year campaign of lies and filth thrown at her.

time to reverse the tables, with the HUGE difference being that all they have to do is tell the TRUTH.

remember Harry Truman's famous quote about that? the more things change, the more they remain the same, AFA confronting your mendacious foes with inarguable truth

[Arkana]

1. That stat about Bernie supporters is flat-out false.

I have never, not even at the height of Bernie's popularity, seen a number that was lower than like 75-80%.

[Rex]

2. CNN hired Trumps former campaign manager, they made their bed.

To a lot of us, CNN is just Foxnews-Lite.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. How you watch CNN?... Crappy News Network (better you than me!)

[Rex]

31. I don't, I read about them hiring Trumps ex-campaign manager here on DU.

I did decades ago watch CNN, back before it had commercials (dating myself). I haven't had TV in over 8 years. The only time I see it is at someone elses house. Though the people I know, consider it to be somewhat fair and balanced. I just don't have the heart to tell them what I think about CNN.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Yeah, I can't watch TV anymore... too painful.

[Rex]

33. If I watch it, it is on the internet.

Yet the dam commercials followed me into the interwebs!

[Warpy]

3. If you enjoy being lied to, keep watching

I turned them all off in 2004 because I was sick of the lies of omission and the way they treated the presidential race like a horse race, who was where and what the numbers were, while never saying a single word about policy differences.

The televised news media have been asleep on the job for a very long time, their corporate masters watching the money roll in while they roll all the lies out.

I decided to deprive their advertisers of another passive warm body. The weird thing was how little I missed them, it had been only a habit for ages.

If you want to be informed, turn them off and start to read. There are great sources out there, online and at newsstands, that will keep you adequately informed, better informed than the people still watching.

Then again, old Simpsons reruns that were on at 6 PM did a better job of that than the news had.

[Gabi Hayes]

8. I completely agree, with this caveat: TV rules the outcome of national elections

the vast majority of voters don't pay attention until after the conventions, and they get, what, 80 percent of their news from TV? that's a low estimate, I'll guess

lookit trump...he gets his military/diplomatic information from 'the shows'

let's face it, TV is the gatekeeper. if it doesn't show up there, it didn't happen

that's the reality, for now. perhaps it will change, with the advent of social media. but it might be too late for that to make a difference

[Warpy]

10. Trump is 100% their creation

He's gotten free 24/7 coverage for months. They are showing no signs of wanting either to withdraw this free advertising or to try to counter this disaster they've caused.

This is why monopolies, especially in media, need to be broken up.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Doesn't that violate some kinda FCC law or regulation?

[Bluenorthwest]

36. Well Gabi if we are going to get serious about those folks who get news from TV we have

to actually look at where on TV they get that news and the answer is 'Not Cable'. I know this often shocks the politics fans but most Americans don't watch cable news at all.
Among Americans who get their news from television, the vast majority get that news from one of the three broadcast networks. It is a fact that on any given night that each of the three major broadcast networks have an audience for their own news program that is larger than the audience for all cable news programming in the same hour. Each of the three outpace all of the cable networks combined.
So on a night where cable does very well and a total of 4 million watch cable news shows on CNN, FoxNews and MSNBC the networks will each have 7-12 million views and a combined total over 22 million viewers, about 18 million more than watch cable news for their news.

[Akicita]

22. I've been lied to repeatedly for a year by DWS claiming that the DNC is totally neutral in the

primary. Can't say I enjoyed it much.

[Gabi Hayes]

23. time to let go...bernie was by FAR my man. ever heard of fred harris? now

there was a man.....that broke my heart.

let it go....we fought a war over 70 years ago. this is the next battle in that war, which never ended, thanks to operation paperclip, and the advent of the dulles brothers, Kissinger, and the like.,

we're teetering precariously on the edge here

[Akicita]

25. You're right of course. But why did Debbie and the DNC have to tilt the playing field and corrupt

the process? Didn't they think Clinton could win on her own merits fair and square? Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and more grist for Rump.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. No comment... for obvious reasons.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. and now this romney jackass said that three quotes from her regarding her own

emails were 'demonstrably false'

well, jackass I know for a FACT that two of those charges are FALSE, from you.

one, she DID NOT send or receive ANY classified emails. stop LYING

two: there is NO PROOF her servers were compromised

didn't comey have to admit that? I think so

the other one was about the server usage, as well, but I can't remember. he might have been right about that.

and did ONE person stand up and call Kevin a LIAR, presenting the actual facts? NO!!!!! that is precisely what this thread is about, and precisely what the dems better damn do====> be prepared to refute the constant barrage of lies, and STOP the discussion until the lie is revealed as such, so that the PUBLIC realizes they're being LIED to!

is that so difficult a request?

[annavictorious]

5. Julian Assange handed them the narrative they wanted.

They're going to spend the next four days covering every protest and stirring as much shit as possible.

And then if we get President Trump, they're going to be screaming "how could this happen?" just like they did when the Republicans got nominee Trump.

There will be months of punditry and analysis, and never once will they say the reason out loud: it happened because we abrogated our journalistic duty in the service of ratings. It happened because we suck.

[Gabi Hayes]

12. I dunno about the ratings, because zucker admitted that their evening revenues have gone

up FORTY PERCENT with the advent of the campaign. so what does he do?

say they've gotten too liberal, and hired maniacs like lewandowski. if they're truly in the business to make money, they would have hired MORE progressives, yes?

and it's clear that ALL media outlets are owned by superconservative individuals, or corporations, and they have more incentive to keep the really intransigent corporatists in power than any single threat.

with Obama, they weren't worried. with Hillary, not so much, so they let things go to a certain extent. don't know what to make of the current news flux, but it's clear that both CNN and MSNBC have hired MANY more wingnuts as of late than progressives. just as clear as Melania's plage.

with gore and Kerry, they saw

[world wide wally]

6. Any mention of Trump/Putin?

I didn't think so

[treestar]

39. This ^^^

Exactly! Why are they not talking about that 24/7? It's a juicy scandal!

[fleabiscuit]

7. Corporate News Network nt

[Gabi Hayes]

9. ha haaaarrrr. you know what the goobs call it?

Clinton news network

did you see that link that quotes Zucker as saying that they're too liberal, so they hired some MODERATE, MAINSTREAM Conservatives!!!!!!


ahahahhahaaaaaa, like corey lewandowski, and that epshtyn guy. seen him? he talks like that john mochida guy...a lie pernanosecond

[fleabiscuit]

20. LOL

Can't say that I watch a lot of cable news, just a show here and there. The rest is filled up with internet radio, social media, online news and such... like here. If I'm going to be spoon fed I might as well pick what I like.

[Gabi Hayes]

21. yeaaah. time to cut the cord for awhile. I have about 90% full on my DVR

don't even ask.....

[7wo7rees]

11. We remember another Truman "quote".

THE BUCK STOPS HERE. It was on his desk at the White House.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. how bout this: the TRUMP stops here!

I knew it....there is nothing new under the sun. you go, OHIO!!!!



should be a new, national logo with this, accompanied by the MOST ridiculous trump picture available

he cannot STAND to be made fun of

why not the campaign of ridicule, similar to the one launched against gore, with the added advantage of being based in reality????

I wanna see this every DAY on TV:

are you listening, dems?

[Akicita]

24. Finally found something Trump and I agree on. I hate mosquitoes too.

[Stinky The Clown]

13. I didn't see any of it, but this is what the media does

If they want a spectacular story, look into TrumpManafort's ties to Russian money and influencers.

Instead they sit on their worthless asses and read other people's emails, clutch some pearls, and cluck cluck about it.

[Gabi Hayes]

15. maddening, isn't it? and, as was noted in your thread, can you imagine

what would happen if Hillary's name was mentioned in the slightest connection with putin? that would be IT. that would make Benghazi look like her hairstyle, in terms of wingnut+media rabidity.

[Will Morningstar]

17. Tried to help NightWatcher. Tried to help Stinky. Had one of my posts removed. Afraid now.

Goodnight. Good luck.

[pinboy3niner]

16. Just tell them: "Your mama! And btw, Trump is far worse for the GOP. Suck on THAT!"

[doc03]

18. Instead of Clintons VP pick Trump has stollen the news cycle for

the run-up to the convention. That is how Trump manipulated the media to beat 16 Republicans. Does anyone still beleive
Hillary can't lose?

[Gabi Hayes]

19. what two words start with Tr?

I hope Obama has the FBI/CIA looking into Trump and Putin cozying up, as well as his ties to Russian mobsters, much less those in NYC

[chillfactor]

26. I will be watching MSNBC for the Democratic Convention....

CNN hired that former dimwit campaign manager of dumdum's so we know their news coverage would reek!

[vadermike]

27. well

then i guess we should just give up now and we get President Rump.. gee...we need to GOTV and if we dont we are done as a country..... If Trump wins... he was gonna win regardless.. i hope not.... but it seems some are giving up already... dont! we have to fight!

[SheriffBob]

34. It's like a geico commercial

When you are M$M "It's what you do." Bullshit.

[Sherman A1]

35. Simple solution

turn off the TV.

[Odin2005]

37. She's LYING, 86% of us Bernie supporters are voting for Clinton.

[DFW]

38. The Conservative News Network has a dilemma

They hate Trump, but they hate Democrats worse

At the RNC, the Republicans reminded everyone how awful they were, but memories fade quickly in politics. It didn't take CNN long to remember where their editorial sentiments lie, and they are not with us.

At the end of the day, this election has presented CNN with a win-win situation, as they will come down hard on whoever wins.

Sing this to the tune of "Sing Low Sweet Chariot:"

Stoop low, you media
Gonna leave the right wing alone?
Stoop low, you media
Gonna leave the right wing alone!

Well, I look over yonder, and what do I see?
(Call in this hot story by phone!)
There’s a woman who is littering, and she looks like Hillary!
(Call in this hot story by phone!)

I found out a top Republican had done a felony!
(Gonna leave the right wing alone?)
Got a call from Rupert Murdoch saying let the story be
(Gonna leave the right wing alone!)

Stoop low, you media
Gonna leave the right wing alone?
Stoop low, you media
Gonna leave the right wing alone!

I’m gonna leave that wing alone
I’m gonna leave that wing alone
I’m gonna leave that right wing alone!


Now, I dreamed I saw Bill Clinton get down upon his knees
(Call in this hot story by phone!)
And he prayed before McDonald’s, asking God “one more time, please!”
(Calling in this story by phone!)

A trusted source got proof that Rove is guilty as can be,
(Gonna leave the right wing alone?)
I was told, “shut up,” or some truck would run right over me
(Gonna leave the right wing alone!)

Stoop low, you media
Gonna leave the right wing alone?
Stoop low, you media
Never throw a lib’ral a bone!!

You can hear it done by TFT (you have to wait for it to come around) with a real Gospel singer here (pretty funny): http://www.jango.com/stations/289074414