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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:49 PM Jul 2016

Trump Faces Federal Investigation After Melania Speech, New Details Emerge

http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-trump-faces-federal-investigation-after-melania-speech-new-details-emerge/

By now, the entire political world should already be aware of the Melania Trump plagiarism allegations. After all, entire portions of her speech were lifted from Michelle Obama, and the Trump organization even sent out a letter acknowledging that fact.

Now, things are getting even more serious. Not only is this bad for their public image, but a complaint has just been filed with the Federal Election Commission claiming that the Trump campaign violated federal election law.

Meredith Mclver, the woman who tried to take the blame for writing Melania’s speech, doesn’t work for the Trump campaign. She works for the Trump organization. There’s a difference – and it’s a big one (as far as the law is concerned). If she did, indeed, help Melania with her speech, as she admits by her very own writing, then she broke campaign finance laws, it’s as simple as that....

But – here’s what we know – she definitely is not a paid employee for Trump’s presidential campaign. No record exists of her receiving compensation in any form. And, if she is, the Trump campaign didn’t list it. That in itself would also be a violation since campaigns are supposed to list all in-kind contributions of goods and services on a regular basis.


Extra butter on mine, please.
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Trump Faces Federal Investigation After Melania Speech, New Details Emerge (Original Post) KamaAina Jul 2016 OP
Emails! Benghazi! orwell Jul 2016 #1
I bet they had to delete a lot of email chains to hide the truth on these lies. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #9
"Our Fox News" is on retainer to the 1%. We're on our own. n/t TonyPDX Jul 2016 #56
the cover up is always worse than the crime rurallib Jul 2016 #2
ALWAYS! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #40
I have a sense the whole McIver story.. Adrahil Jul 2016 #3
Whaaaatttt? Rstrstx Jul 2016 #10
How many corners do you manage to cut before you trip and fall? StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #4
Does she even exist? scscholar Jul 2016 #5
Co-writer of about 4 Trump books. Picture circulating (before being photoshopped to bizarro). . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #22
Anyone an put a name on the cover of a book. That proves nothing. A picture proves nothing. randome Jul 2016 #53
I think we need a better source than that. mucifer Jul 2016 #6
I agree SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #12
It's the kind of thing thats in the news for a week or two mucifer Jul 2016 #14
I did find articles at reputable sources SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #15
Afraid you are right SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #19
If it's even a violation SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #31
There isn't a shortcut SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #34
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #35
Not according to the WaPo story on the subject Major Nikon Jul 2016 #37
I read the story at the link SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #46
That's true, but it's not true that the Trump campaign can pay for the services after the fact Major Nikon Jul 2016 #47
Death by a thousand cuts. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #39
Your signature pictures are amazing! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #41
What the hell is "groopspeak.com"? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #33
I don't wish to alarm anyone, but it seems to me that Trump has is a schizophrenic Doodley Jul 2016 #7
Just how many ways is he making money campaigning? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #8
Perhaps tRump is TRANS-gender in his double life. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #23
Republicans should be ashamed of cashing in Family Values for Casino Values RapSoDee Jul 2016 #11
Lock him up, safeinOhio Jul 2016 #13
In the big picture this is a very minor infraction, but listening to the garbage coming out... George II Jul 2016 #16
... Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #17
K&R Photographer Jul 2016 #18
Too quick. It may show on July statement. If they'd waited til that came out, Trump amateurs might Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #20
i bet violations go deep in that disorganized organization...go get 'em spanone Jul 2016 #21
Unfortunately, the FEC is the Most Feckless Government Entity that Exists mckara Jul 2016 #24
Agreed but what if anything will occur benld74 Jul 2016 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #26
Hi quartz43...Welcome to DU... Tikki Jul 2016 #30
K&R red dog 1 Jul 2016 #27
Trump has been claiming to be under federal investigation (tax audits) for a long time. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #28
If he weren't so scary, this election would be fun. He's such a perfect fuckup! Squinch Jul 2016 #29
But it's the best speech! It was written by the best speech writers! Initech Jul 2016 #32
Trump concerns me cause he seems to really enjoy being Kathy M Jul 2016 #36
Oooooo. Pass the popcorn. Easy on the butter, please. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #38
Wow.. i heard mention of this the other day but now Cha Jul 2016 #42
See notes Craig234 Jul 2016 #43
LOL Skittles Jul 2016 #44
Example 3,813 Cosmocat Jul 2016 #45
Melania plagiarized it herself . She told Donald this. He had to come up with something to absolve h SummerSnow Jul 2016 #48
The Campaign That Couldn't Shoot Straight . . . n /t MrModerate Jul 2016 #49
Where's the tax returns??? AllyCat Jul 2016 #50
I honestly don't think Meredith McIver exists. randome Jul 2016 #51
But, but, but.....SAUL ALINSKY!!!! Crowman1979 Jul 2016 #52
Dumbasses can't even be bothered to know election law. What arrogance. catbyte Jul 2016 #54
I'll have mine air-popped please lark Jul 2016 #55
I wouldn't get too excited. The FEC is deadlocked Chakab Jul 2016 #57

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. I bet they had to delete a lot of email chains to hide the truth on these lies.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jul 2016

I was covering this news as it developed and we had the story here on DU first!
I recommend Donald take advantage of his right to remain silent.


Writer of Melania Trump's "First Lady" Speech Says Melania Lied.

L. Coyote Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:16 AM
22. So, people in a Trump business are working on the campaign. Are they reporting this?

Or is this going to be a clear violation of campaign laws?

.....

50. There's no #MeredithMcIver in Trump's June payroll reported to the FEC. Lawyer up Donald!


tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
40. ALWAYS!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jul 2016

You think that they would have gotten it right after three days. I can see if they spewed this crap three hours later, but not three days.

I think Manafort forgot he's not in the Ukraine anymore.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
3. I have a sense the whole McIver story..
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jul 2016

... Is bullshit. This shit is gonna blow up in Trump's face. I love it.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
4. How many corners do you manage to cut before you trip and fall?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

I posted a HuffPo article about this on Wednesday, and I've been following closely.

Great news! Oh yes, oh yes!

It did not take long for this one to blossom. I was speculating about whether the FEC still has enough teeth to make an impact here. I was worried that they may have suffered through big budget cuts like many important regulatory agencies have.

I am VERY curious to see what happens!



There are weird conspiratorial rumblings on Twitter about her being a fake person who was never on Drumpf's payroll? dunno

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512268538

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. Anyone an put a name on the cover of a book. That proves nothing. A picture proves nothing.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jul 2016

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It might rain and it might not.
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SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
12. I agree
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016

Previous news I've seen linked from there had pretty shoddy reporting.

And they can't even get it right about Edwards at the end of the article.

mucifer

(23,478 posts)
14. It's the kind of thing thats in the news for a week or two
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jul 2016

and then it's on to the next outrage new story of the week. It's not something I would think would cause an investigation.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
15. I did find articles at reputable sources
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jul 2016

about the complaint filed against Trump, but it's a non-starter, IMO.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
31. If it's even a violation
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jul 2016

If she did the work after the campaign last disclosed donations and before the next filing, it's not a violation.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
46. I read the story at the link
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jul 2016

And it said if he used corporate resources knowingly and willingly, it's a violation. However, it goes on to say that he can pay for the corporate resources from campaign funds and then it's legal.

Until the Trump campaign's next filing is released, we'll really have no idea whether it was a violation or not. If the filing shows that the campaign paid for her services, then no violation.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
39. Death by a thousand cuts.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jul 2016

Every one of these "incidents" just goes toward proving the narrative the Trump is unfit to be president. There's unlikely to be a single one that torpedoes him, but taken altogether they are very damning.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
33. What the hell is "groopspeak.com"?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

Sorry but I don't really buy this is true when I've literally never heard of the source.

Doodley

(9,036 posts)
7. I don't wish to alarm anyone, but it seems to me that Trump has is a schizophrenic
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jul 2016

with multiple personalities. Some we already know about, but Meredith McIver is one who we do not know as well. .

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. Just how many ways is he making money campaigning?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

May be that all the vendors being paid by the campaign are really Trump.

Crooked Hillary, indeed.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. In the big picture this is a very minor infraction, but listening to the garbage coming out...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

....of his mouth, it should be made a HUUUUGE issue. Lyin' Donald, Crooked Donald....wonder where the blood is coming out of, his eyes or "whatever"?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
20. Too quick. It may show on July statement. If they'd waited til that came out, Trump amateurs might
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jul 2016

I think they may have filed the complaint too quickly.

The Rump campaign can say the work was done in July the two weeks before the convention and billed then. So they can put it on the July statement where the company bills the campaign for services.

If the complainants had waited, the Trump amateur clown show campaign could easily have omitted it.

But more knowledgeable minds filing the complaint may have already accounted for the "list on a regular basis" issue.

 

mckara

(1,708 posts)
24. Unfortunately, the FEC is the Most Feckless Government Entity that Exists
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not sure if they can do anything more than cast shame upon guilty parties.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
30. Hi quartz43...Welcome to DU...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jul 2016

So much goes on in during this time of an election cycle...it will be an amazing ride, for sure.

Tikki

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
36. Trump concerns me cause he seems to really enjoy being
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

combative I mean really really enjoys . Then who knows whats going behind the scenes ... complete diversion . I think he is using a lot of " Science of persuasion " Hopefully this is okay to post ......

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145668188291/trump-man-of-science

very interesting take on science persuasion , blog is by Scott Adam ... he was guest on Bill Maher month and half to two months ago .

Then the combination of Manafort and Roger Stone added to the mix .... google names if not familiar .. man what a combo .. and not in a good way . Roger Stone is known for dirty tricks , they worked on some nasty campaigns

Wish the news would not show his tweets etc all free advertising and getting his message out ... the wiki leak is that even true ? thought I read the address from where it was sent from looked off

As far as Melania 's speech I will believe until proven for a fact otherwise it was plagiarized on purpose . I am starting to believe some to most of the convention was a controlled kaos on purpose for his show ..... I am starting to believe no reaction is better that reacting , whether that means turning tv off if he is on or not going to any sites he may possibly be attached to .

Kathy

Cha

(296,800 posts)
42. Wow.. i heard mention of this the other day but now
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jul 2016

as you say.. it's getting more serious.

Serious enough to pass the popcorn, please.

Mahalo, KamaAina

 

Craig234

(335 posts)
43. See notes
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jul 2016

I don't think trump has much respect for rules, and it'd be great to see him held accountable here.

Two things that might prevent it:

1. The election commission is dysfunctional last I heard, lacking a quorum thanks to Republican obstructionism, so there's no enforcement. Or maybe I'm mixing it up with the Labor commission unable to protect workers.

2. There might be a question about whether she was paid to do this speech. Can they prove payment, or can she say it was just a personal favor to help, as a volunteer?

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
45. Example 3,813
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jul 2016

of something that is a democrat did, would be a MAJOR SCANDAL that an R candidate, especially Trump, won't have to answer for.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
48. Melania plagiarized it herself . She told Donald this. He had to come up with something to absolve h
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jul 2016

of any responsibility. So he came up with damage control McIver. Melania was put on punishment by her husband after this fiasco and wasn't allowed to come back to the convention until the last day. He was really mad at her.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
51. I honestly don't think Meredith McIver exists.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jul 2016

Maybe there was (or is) a person with that name but the McIver we 'know' from Trump is not her.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
52. But, but, but.....SAUL ALINSKY!!!!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jul 2016

That's the rethuglican, alt-right, teabagger default response to everything.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
57. I wouldn't get too excited. The FEC is deadlocked
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jul 2016

with an equal number of Republican and Democratic appointees and hence doesn't actually do anything.

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