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Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:27 AM Jun 2012

Joe is lying again this morning about an Obama spending spree.

An Obama Spending Spree? Hardly (CHART)

A dominant theme of the national political discourse has been the crushing spending spree the U.S. has ostensibly embarked on during the Obama presidency. That argument, ignited by Republicans and picked up by many elite opinion makers, has infused the national dialogue and shaped the public debate in nearly every major budget battle of the last thee years.

But the numbers tell a different story.

The fact that the national debt has risen from $10.6 trillion to $15.6 trillion under Obama’s watch makes for easy partisan attacks. But the vast bulk of the increase was caused by a combination of revenue losses due to the 2008-09 economic downturn as well as Bush-era tax cuts and automatic increases in safety-net spending that were already written into law.

Obama’s policies, including the much-criticized stimulus package, have caused the slowest increase in federal spending of any president in almost 60 years, according to data compiled by the financial news service MarketWatch.

Chart: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/federal-deficit-barack-obama-spending-stimulus-budget-historic-trends.php

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Joe is lying again this morning about an Obama spending spree. (Original Post) Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 OP
Chart Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #1
Joe Scum lies every fugging morning malaise Jun 2012 #2
Obama spending binge never happened Commentary: Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950 Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #3
Just astonishing--blatant, shameless, through-the-teeth, Surya Gayatri Jun 2012 #4
Mika needs to do a little research. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #5
Good question--is her silence self-imposed Surya Gayatri Jun 2012 #7
It would help more than rolling her eyes and glaring at the camera thecrow Jun 2012 #18
i accidently left the tv on msnbc oldhippydude Jun 2012 #6
Uh, an actual spending spree would be a good thing. HuckleB Jun 2012 #8
Of course, none of these bastards report on a real story. Like, say... HuckleB Jun 2012 #9
It's absolutely amazing Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #10
I watch it for a simple reasons. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #11
+1! Agree completely, TG... Surya Gayatri Jun 2012 #12
I missed last Friday TuxedoKat Jun 2012 #17
Yet you seem to read every one of the OPs about him lunatica Jun 2012 #13
+1000 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2012 #16
It's a discussion board. Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #23
Follow your own advice lunatica Jun 2012 #24
Dead Intern Joe Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #25
You're projecting your faults onto me now lunatica Jun 2012 #27
Joe Scarborough sets the conservative talking points for the day... kentuck Jun 2012 #19
Because, Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #26
You should do less censoring... kentuck Jun 2012 #28
Keep putting Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #29
Question about spending Ghost of Tom Joad Jun 2012 #14
I don't think so. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #15
Congress appropriates all outgoing money banned from Kos Jun 2012 #21
This morning was the first time I watched Morning Joe ... spin Jun 2012 #20
Joe lies every second of his whorish existance, his entire paradigm is wrong just1voice Jun 2012 #22
As long as people keep... 99Forever Jun 2012 #30

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
3. Obama spending binge never happened Commentary: Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:35 AM
Jun 2012

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.

As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Just astonishing--blatant, shameless, through-the-teeth,
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:42 AM
Jun 2012

bald-faced. Along with Nicole Wallace, that gag-inducing excuse for a Repuke "contributor", the show is nearly unwatchable.

The only saving moments are the looks of utter contempt passing over Mika's face as they spew their crap. She is royally pissed! But, outnumbered and brow-beaten by Scar.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
5. Mika needs to do a little research.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:49 AM
Jun 2012

She needs facts.

It is easy to find these charts.

Is she told not to speak up? I wonder.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Good question--is her silence self-imposed
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:03 AM
Jun 2012

so she can stay on the boss' right side, is it part of her contractual duties on the show, or is she simply ill-prepared with nothing to back up a counter-argument?

You'd think after all these months of Scar flogging the same dead horse (i.e. Obama's "debt explosion&quot , she'd get her shit together, do some serious research, and confront him head on.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
10. It's absolutely amazing
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:14 AM
Jun 2012

how so many on this board will bitch about Joe "Dead Intern" Scumborough and then still continue to watch him and give him ratings. Absolutely amazing. And, don't give me this nonsense about having to find out what the whackjobs are saying. Just look at the postings here and you will know.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
11. I watch it for a simple reasons.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:21 AM
Jun 2012

Sometimes Joe is caught in his lies. He was last Friday.

I also like the progressives who appear, especially Steve Rattner and his charts.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. Yet you seem to read every one of the OPs about him
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:44 AM
Jun 2012

And then proceed to disdain them...

Perhaps you should follow your own snotty advice.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
23. It's a discussion board.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jun 2012

I discussed what I thought. You chose to think of it as snotty. Oh well!!!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. Follow your own advice
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jun 2012

Instead of criticizing others like you're all superior. That's snotty in my view. Just ignore the threads that offend you. It's a no-brainer.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
25. Dead Intern Joe
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jun 2012

is still on the air because some still watch him and give him ratings, ergo money in pocket. What is so difficult for you to understand about that? If you really really want to watch Progressives, then go to Current TV during the same time slot. See how easy that is? But then, I guess you wouldn't have anything to whine about.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. You're projecting your faults onto me now
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

You obviously think I watch Joe Scarborough. I don't, but I appreciate that other DUers do so I can stay abreast of the facts out there. You're the one who's whining about anyone who watches Joe. As a matter of fact I've seen your posts saying exactly the same thing in quite a few threads about Scarborough. Why do you bother since you're above it all? Evidently it's so you can feel superior to other DUers. Or is it because you can't stay away from Scarborough threads? If you think it's such a waste of time to post about him then don't you think you should stop posting on threads about him? D'oh!

I do.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
19. Joe Scarborough sets the conservative talking points for the day...
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:48 PM
Jun 2012

He is not as effective without Patrick Buchanan's help but he usually gets a lot of nodding heads with his uninformed "facts" ...and little disagreement.

It is good to shoot down these talking points whenever possible. Also, how could one know what was said about the show by reading the postings here unless someone else was watching the show?

My suggestion would be that if someone is not interested in what is discussed on these shows, then they should simply skip these types of posts and not comment at all. There are plenty of other discussions going on. They pretend not to be interested but cannot help themselves from commenting. Why is that?

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
26. Because,
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jun 2012

you are putting money in his pocket and come across like you don't get it. And, oh, yes, please please no one should comment on your not getting it. Watch Current TV on the same time slot or better yet, go watch Link TV. Quitcher whining.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
28. You should do less censoring...
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jun 2012

and more reading. If you don't want to know what Scarborough or anyone else is talking about, don't click on the link. Your hypocrisy is rather stunning.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
29. Keep putting
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jun 2012

money into the pockets of Dead Intern Joe!!! Did you turn onto Current TV or Link TV yet? Projection. Projection. Projection.

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
21. Congress appropriates all outgoing money
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jun 2012

In the case of TARP Congress passed the bill and Bush spent half of it then Obama spent the other half.

For ongoing stuff like the Energy Dept a new budget (or continuing resolution) must be passed.

spin

(17,493 posts)
20. This morning was the first time I watched Morning Joe ...
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jun 2012

I was awake all night and decided to stay up to get some chores done.

The program almost sounded like Fox News.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
22. Joe lies every second of his whorish existance, his entire paradigm is wrong
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jun 2012

As is the so-called article above. Take this spew for example, "That argument, ignited by Republicans and picked up by many elite opinion makers", blah blah blah. During the criminal chimp administration, Cheney said "deficits don't matter" and every ahole repuke agreed.

Any article that ever mentions what some repukes are doing or thinking is FULL OF SHT in its very premise.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
30. As long as people keep...
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jun 2012

.. tuning in, they'll right on leaving the lying liars on the air. Frankly, I wouldn't waste one second of my day parsing BS from known liars. But if you must, enjoy.

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