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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:41 AM Jul 2016

"Disastrous...this turns the first night into a disaster."~Steve Schmidt - MSNBC (Edit w/ video)

Absolutely devastating proof that Melania Trump's speech tonight was lifted word for word from Michele Obama's great 2008 introductory speech.

They've now got the video up of side by side comparisons with Melania mouthing Michelle's words.

This will be THE story that chases everything else off of the frontpage in tomorrow's news cycle.

What an unmitigated, monumental train wreck.

ETA - Side by side comparison:



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"Disastrous...this turns the first night into a disaster."~Steve Schmidt - MSNBC (Edit w/ video) (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 OP
Yes, but Trump is bulletproof vegetarian x Jul 2016 #1
This is just TOO bad to go without causing some damage. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #5
I cannot imagine his supporters leaving for anything. vegetarian x Jul 2016 #27
Nobody said anything about his band of brainwashed, zombie supporters. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #29
His first night of all that wonderment--Benghazi Mom, Giuliani, all that military rah-rah...it is MADem Jul 2016 #7
It was better coming from Michelle! Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #2
+1000. nt ecstatic Jul 2016 #11
No contest. Literally, a piss-poor imitation. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #12
Michelle was MUCH better! pamela Jul 2016 #15
Melania could not have done better MadCrow Jul 2016 #33
Absolutely no comparison ailsagirl Jul 2016 #56
Michelle is an original Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #17
Well, hell yeah - ANYTHING is better coming from Michelle. raven mad Jul 2016 #24
Yeah! And much of what tRump says... SeattleVet Jul 2016 #38
LOL! DoBotherMe Jul 2016 #43
Mrs. Obama actually seemed to mean it. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2016 #46
This is HILARIOUS--the video of each of them giving the speech is a scream. MADem Jul 2016 #3
Oh.My.God! What hilarity will now ensue. The only "high point" of the Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #9
It WAS a crown jewel--from FLOTUS MICHELLE's crown!!! Ha ha ha!!! nt MADem Jul 2016 #10
Yes- they were clapping and cheering Michelle Obama! NBachers Jul 2016 #32
how about a BIGGER disaster spanone Jul 2016 #4
Uggh. I wish tweety would stop giving Trump free advice! ecstatic Jul 2016 #6
Naaaah--he's reeling Trump in. He thinks the SON IN LAW wrote it, I suspect. MADem Jul 2016 #8
who wrote it for her? Skittles Jul 2016 #13
No one knows, because there are no proper full-time speech writers on the Trump staff. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #18
Who wrote it for her? SeattleVet Jul 2016 #49
You mean awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #50
Birther boys wife plagiarized sheshe2 Jul 2016 #14
As that great Republican philosopher Rick Perry would say . . . gratuitous Jul 2016 #16
You gotta be shitting me!? Rex Jul 2016 #19
+1, I agree with one of the posters, we're being punked uponit7771 Jul 2016 #30
Parallel speeches csziggy Jul 2016 #20
Best compilation of "Melania's Greatest Hits"...LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #21
So the mercuryblues Jul 2016 #22
Or at least acknowledge Michelle's contribution in the transcript! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #23
Enough by herself - raven mad Jul 2016 #25
It will be Michelles fault. Volaris Jul 2016 #36
The night was a disaster BEFORE Melania's stolen speech jmowreader Jul 2016 #26
Yes! sofa king Jul 2016 #28
Did anyone see CNN's coverage? calimary Jul 2016 #31
Oh, yeah. I saw it. I was so glad they played that clip. writes3000 Jul 2016 #34
I would love to see that clip... winstars Jul 2016 #35
That's hysterical LittleGirl Jul 2016 #44
another day, another F up! napkinz Jul 2016 #37
Merely more proof that Obama is a time-traveling shape shifting illuminizard Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #39
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #40
K&R napkinz Jul 2016 #41
"The party of Lincoln had better start drinkin'" Rose Siding Jul 2016 #42
He is a brilliant entertainer. Sophiegirl Jul 2016 #45
This kind of satire is his gift. Rose Siding Jul 2016 #47
It was great! Surprise guests! northoftheborder Jul 2016 #48
Trump's followers simply do not care. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #51
I heard an NPR report this morning Skittles Jul 2016 #52
They (npr) talked about it during the evening news. progressoid Jul 2016 #57
Trump's 40% heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #53
Disaster expert... czarjak Jul 2016 #54
Don't worry about Trump followers... Moonwalk Jul 2016 #55
looks like they are screwing up the second night napkinz Jul 2016 #58

vegetarian x

(150 posts)
27. I cannot imagine his supporters leaving for anything.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jul 2016

Remember, he said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue, and with the demographics of his supporters, I think he's correct.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
29. Nobody said anything about his band of brainwashed, zombie supporters.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jul 2016

The whole purpose of a national party's convention is to INTRODUCE the candidate to the rest of the nation, i.e. the middle of the electorate to be found between the two bases.

Melania Trump, the potential FLOTUS, has been introduced as a liar and a plagarist.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. His first night of all that wonderment--Benghazi Mom, Giuliani, all that military rah-rah...it is
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:48 AM
Jul 2016
GONE. Done. Pooof....like it NEVER HAPPENED.

The ONLY story is Melania, all dickie-dooed up her lovely white dress, reading a speech delivered by First Lady Michelle Obama.

Now, we know one big thing: Mrs. Trump is a PLAGIARIST. Either that, or a LIAR. She said she wrote the speech herself; so if someone else wrote it for her, she's simply a big fibber. Pick one!!!

This IS the story for tomorrow.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
15. Michelle was MUCH better!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jul 2016

That's going to hurt more than the plagiarism. They keep showing the two speeches together and Michelle is warm and emotive while Melania is stiff, cold and unemotional. I watched the Stepford Wives the other night and the robots had more warmth.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. This is HILARIOUS--the video of each of them giving the speech is a scream.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:44 AM
Jul 2016

What's hilarious is that the GOP LOVED the words of a (gasp) BLACK WOMAN with a KENYAN HUSBAND!!! Oh, the opportunities for snark!!!!




 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Oh.My.God! What hilarity will now ensue. The only "high point" of the
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jul 2016

whole evening has now been proven to be a complete sham. "The speech was supposed to be 'the crown jewel' of the night"...(MSNBC)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. No one knows, because there are no proper full-time speech writers on the Trump staff.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jul 2016

They think it may have been some day-jobber hack who took the easy way because he/she was being paid peanuts.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. You gotta be shitting me!?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jul 2016

The GOP RNC NRA FOXnews all went down the toilet. Must have needed a lot of TP!

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
22. So the
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jul 2016

Crown jewel of the republican convention was Michelle Obama's speech.

A speech the republicans ripped apart 8 years ago. But loved tonight.

Mrs. Trump is on record saying she wrote the speech "with as little help as possible" I think she needs to send Michelle Obama a check for her help.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Or at least acknowledge Michelle's contribution in the transcript!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jul 2016

Liars all! She informed Matt Lauer earlier in the day that she'd written it "almost all by herself."

Waiting to see how Trump et al. manage damage control.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
36. It will be Michelles fault.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:07 AM
Jul 2016

For being too good a speechwriter that it just begs to be 'repeated'.

Or, there's a Flux Capacitor and Obamas been hiding it so real, patriotic, murican Christians can't go back in time and get baby jeebus a proper hotel room like he DESERVES, because dirty liberals just want baby jesus to suffer in the cold.

does anyone know what's on tomorrow's convention agenda?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
28. Yes!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:13 AM
Jul 2016

And is was a terrible night after that, too, worse even, with terrible speeches and a deflated, disinterested crowd.

It started with an incompetent and autocratic election-theft. Speakers were laughing at the bullshit they had to say, the ancient crowd bugged out early, there were lines and imagery lifted straight out of Triumph of the Will, the stage itself turned red whenever black people were speaking, and I swear General Flynn counted Canada among our enemies.

And the Benghazi Bros.

And the group picture of five thousand hateful white people, with the cameraman failing to set up before everyone was told to stand stock still, like a frozen bag of snake venom.

A total, comedic train-wreck, The Producers come to life. Someone is gonna get ri-i-i-i-ch writing the comedy screenplay of it, someday, if America survives this.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
31. Did anyone see CNN's coverage?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:38 AM
Jul 2016

OMG! We switched over from MSNBC to see if they had it and they were indeed starting to cover it. It was Don Lemon and a colleague with a panel of talking heads. It was a fuck-up but the blame was going to the speechwriters.

I kept mumbling about the clip with Matt Lauer interviewing her and Donald that I'd seen way earlier, when they'd arrived before her speech. He asked her if she'd been practicing her speech and she said she'd just looked over it, and added "because I wrote it, with as little help as possible." And I kept mumbling "she said she wrote it!"

Well, they talked about it and showed the clips of the Michelle Obama speech and Melania's - um - excerpts. And speechwriters messed up and on and on. And then somebody brought up that she'd talked with Matt Lauer beforehand, and "show the clip." And BANG! "...because I wrote it, with as little help as possible." End of clip, cue the talent.

And they cut back to Don Lemon and his colleague sitting there side-by-side, and it was BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL!!! There they sat, facing the camera, mute. They sat there for two or three beats, staring blankly at the camera, with nothing to say. Finally one of them broke their frozen silence and quipped something like "the only thing I have to say about that at this point is "no comment'."

I almost fell down laughing! Those blank stares! Sheer caught-with-their-pants-down blank stares. They had no idea what to say. Their blank expressions told you everything! Textbook deer-in-the-headlights! PRICELESS!!!

Welcome to the big leagues, Melania.

Edited to correct her quote so it's exact.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
34. Oh, yeah. I saw it. I was so glad they played that clip.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jul 2016

And I was so glad for the panelists who called it out for what it was - plagiarism.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
44. That's hysterical
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jul 2016

I wished I had seen that! But since I live in Switzerland, I didn't want to lose sleep over this silly convention thing. Probably will lose sleep next week.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. Merely more proof that Obama is a time-traveling shape shifting illuminizard
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:01 AM
Jul 2016
Michelle stole the speech from Melania!

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
57. They (npr) talked about it during the evening news.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016

Then they played a clip from some Trump mouthpiece. He tried to shift the focus to Hillary saying that she politicizing this because she can't deal with another strong woman.

NPR then pointed out that there were many other people outside of the Clinton campaign that also calling attention to this.

heresAthingdotcom

(160 posts)
53. Trump's 40%
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jul 2016

"The receptivity of the great masses is very limited,
their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.
In consequence of these facts,
all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.
As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided,
the effect will piddle away,
for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered." ("Adolf Hitler: quote on propaganda&quot  

to Trump's enablers nothing changes their minds....

Trump said he could shoot someone and he wouldn't lose votes.... Hitler gassed millions and he didn't lose support....

There is currently a Law suit filed in New York against Mr. Trump for the Rape of a 13 year old girl...

Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored

In covering a story, a media outlet is not finding guilt. It is simply reporting the news that a lawsuit has been filed against Mr. Trump, and ideally putting the complaint in context. Unproven allegations are just that - unproven, and should be identified that way. (Mr. Trump’s lawyer says the charges are “categorically untrue, completely fabricated and politically motivated.”) Proof comes later, at trial. But the November election will come well before any trial. And while Mr. Trump is presumed innocent, we are permitted - no, we are obligated — to analyze the case’s viability now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html



Case 1:16-cv -04642 Read the Donald Trump Rape Charge Law Suit.... https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits#fullscreen?platform=hootsuite


I think Trump is a sinking ship and while the 40% will hang on all the while the furnaces are burning... the 60% has better sense.....


Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
55. Don't worry about Trump followers...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jul 2016

...yes, most of them are on the clown car for the full ride and don't care that it's heading for a crash. BUT...a lot of people (voters) will gravitate towards candidates that seem "powerful"--like being part of the group that mocks rather than gets mocked.

I really doubt that the Democrats are going to let this go during their convention. It's going to come up again and again--as well as anything else they can mock. And when that happens some voters will bail out of the car. They'll do the old Peter denying Jesus thrice thing: "Me? With Trump? No way! I'd never vote for him...."

That said, as pampered as this poor woman is, I have to feel bad about her. She's riding shotgun where ever Trump wants to go, and if that means she reads the speech they give her and pretends she wrote it. Whether or not she's happy with this ride, she's stuck in the car and has to do what she's told. And read the speeches they give her. And say she wrote them.

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