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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:35 AM

Jeb Bush Excommunicated From Republican Party

Jeb Bush’s remark that Ronald Reagan would be too moderate for today’s Republican Party earned an aggressive rebuke from the gatekeeper of the anti-tax obstinacy that permeates the modern GOP.

“That’s foolish,” Grover Norquist, the architect of the bedrock never-raise-taxes pledge that nearly every Republican has signed, told TPM in an interview. “It’s stup—it’s bizarre.”

“There’s a guy who watched his father throw away his presidency on a 2:1 (ratio of spending cuts to tax increases) promise,” Norquist said of Bush. “And he thinks he’s sophisticated by saying that he’d take a 10:1 promise. He doesn’t understand — he’s just agreed to walk down the same alley his dad did with the same gang. And he thinks he’s smart. You walk down that alley, you don’t come out. You certainly don’t come out with 2:1 or 10:1.”

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/grover-norquist-jeb-bush-ronald-reagan-taxes.php?ref=fpa
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/11/1099151/-Jeb-Bush-Excommunicated-For-Republican-Party

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Reply Jeb Bush Excommunicated From Republican Party (Original post)
kpete Jun 2012 OP
Raven Jun 2012 #1
Scuba Jun 2012 #2
Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #6
Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #20
tech3149 Jun 2012 #30
monmouth Jun 2012 #33
Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #24
intheflow Jun 2012 #38
HockeyMom Jun 2012 #3
KurtNYC Jun 2012 #4
liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #5
Raven Jun 2012 #7
liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #12
BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #8
tech3149 Jun 2012 #32
Solly Mack Jun 2012 #9
rhett o rick Jun 2012 #10
madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #11
BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #15
liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #17
TahitiNut Jun 2012 #27
JHB Jun 2012 #13
sadbear Jun 2012 #14
FSogol Jun 2012 #16
Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2012 #18
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #19
sellitman Jun 2012 #21
Phlem Jun 2012 #22
Malikshah Jun 2012 #23
zeemike Jun 2012 #25
lindysalsagal Jun 2012 #37
librechik Jun 2012 #26
L0oniX Jun 2012 #35
bvar22 Jun 2012 #28
LongTomH Jun 2012 #29
steve2470 Jun 2012 #31
aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #34
Marr Jun 2012 #36
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #39
goclark Jun 2012 #40

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:39 AM

1. Jeb is reading the tea leaves...

pardon the pun...he is anticipating a Republican Party meltdown and setting himself up to be the savior in 2016. Norquist is starting to sputter...losing his grip.

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:42 AM

2. That's how I see it. The Republican Party is in decline, despite Scott Walker's "win".

I put "win" in quotes, for a reason. Check my sig line.

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:58 AM

6. Sorry. Even a sane American will still reject Bush

 

as he fostered the seed of stupidness and created the Tea Party.

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:00 PM

20. "Every sane American"

So that means Jebby can get more than 50 percent of the vote.

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:29 PM

30. No matter what Jeb says or does, I'll still follow the advice of Rev. Al

"STAY OUT THE BUSHES!"

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Response to tech3149 (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:31 PM

33. I think the real truth is that Jeb hates Norquist, sees him for what he is, a manipulative,

dishonest charlatan. I give Jeb some credit for this.

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:31 PM

24. Their may be something bigger going on behind the scenes


Mutiny on the bounty only the big shots who use to run the ship are going to take it back.

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:00 AM

38. +1

That's the first thing I thought of - except I think he's being supported and encouraged by a team of Republicans who see the writing on the wall and want to switch marketing gears. Hence, a gently, seemingly sane member of the Bush Dynasty suddenly "sees the light." I don't buy it; there are no benign members of the BFEE.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:46 AM

3. The Republican Party of today is nothing

like it was 20, 30, or 40 years ago. Yes, they have gone that far right, including being strangled by the religious right wing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:47 AM

4. the republicans don't like what their base is asking for right now

the primaries dragged on as Ron Paul got way too much of the vote in one state after another. Now Jeb is having a public spat with them. They are coming apart at the seams.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:54 AM

5. Jeb is a thief

 

but that does not discount his opinion on this...I agree with him

I think he knows the republican party is in for a big suprise this fall!

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Response to liberalnationalist (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:59 AM

7. A lot of George W's people are working

with Romney. I'm sure Jed is getting the ugly inside scoop on that pathetic campaign and its candidate.

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Response to Raven (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:11 AM

12. good point

 

I didn't even think of that

its bizarre but its the truth

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:59 AM

8. Grover is stoopbizarre

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:39 PM

32. I may hate Norquist with the heat of a thousand suns but I'll never consider him stupid

He's an extremely intelligent, self-serving, manipulative sociopath. He is a dangerous person that should be considered in the same vein as a starved, cornered wild animal. He will do anything and everything to assure his current survival without realizing that in the end it will assure his own destruction.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:04 AM

9. Selection 2000. Fuck JEB.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:08 AM

10. Something big is afoot. Norquist and the Tea Party are headed for a fall.

Jeb will lead the "more sensible" Repukes retake the party from the crazies.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:10 AM

11. Jeb is no more trustworthy

than any other member of his insidious family of pillagers and plunderers. His remarks are likely nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to make him more widely pallatable for 2016, and Grover Fuckwad Norquist is merely playing his part in the charade. They are banking on short memory. Reality is that this country cannot CANNOT risk another Bush in the White House. Not ever.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:25 AM

15. Thing is

I think the tea crazies are starting to impact the BFEE and they may be trying to find a way around them.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:37 AM

17. agreed!

 

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:47 PM

27. The GOP will reap what they sow - division, discontent, blame-shifting, and ...

... an utter disregard for integrity or empiricism.

Stand back and watch them PROVE that there's no such thing as a zero-sum game in human relations. There is no win-lose; there is only win-win or lose-lose. They're playing lose-lose.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:21 AM

13. Jeb is scenting that the anti-tax fanatics may finally lose their grip...

...and positioning himself as the "reasonable conservative" to gather 'round in the aftermath of a Teapocalypse.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:21 AM

14. Sounds like an NRC contingency plan

for when the tea party is ultimately rejected by America. They'll need someone to rebuild the GOP after the tea party destroys it, so they're kicking Jeb out so he won't have the stench on him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:30 AM

16. Jeb's just brushing up his bona fides with the "independents" & "mavericks" for his 2016

Presidential run. In Jeb's case, the should be called "phony fides."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:02 AM

18. Well, I don't want him either.

Corrupt asshole ran my state into the ground. Perhaps he's not welcome in the GOP anymore (quite sad) but he's not welcome on my side of the aisle either.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:48 AM

19. I still would never vote for Bush

But, it shows that Grover Norquist is losing power, the tea-baggers are losing power and fear is setting in.

While, I wouldn't vote for Bush I am glad to see the Republican starting to take these positions.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:12 PM

21. Nice to see some internal struggle develop in the GOP

Its way to early to really get excited about it until after Obama gives them the whooping of their lives later in the year.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:13 PM

22. Hmm.

Sounds like he's gone undercover for the GOP. The excommunication is just the "convincing" of the slow that he's not GOP anymore. I wouldn't even think he ex GOP, the bush family are lying "evildoer's".

-p

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:18 PM

23. Excommunicated or not, DO NOT let this child of Ungoliant near public office again. He's as

criminal as the day is long. A vile creature from a vile family that has done immeasurable damage to this country and the world.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:33 PM

25. Don't you believe it...he is just playing good cop.

And is hedging the GOP bet for 2016.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:41 PM

37. "We aren't crazy!!! We aren't crazy!!!"

They think everyone is as stupid as they are immoral.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:34 PM

26. What???!! The Dauphin refused to kiss the ring and slippers of The Little Macchiavelli?

what are the dwarves going to do now???!!

(picturing the entire Repub party running around in circles naked with their hands over their ears.)

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Response to librechik (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:32 PM

35. +1 Macchiavelli is right!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 02:06 PM

28. Thats OK.

Like Arlen Specter, Jebbie can find a comfortable new home in the centrist wing of the "New Democrat" Party. He wouldn't have to change a thing except his registration.
The Florida DLCers would roll out the Welcome mat and consider it a Political WIN.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 02:26 PM

29. There is definitely dirty work afoot!

There is almost certainly a behind-the-scenes battle for control of the GOP; but, it's far from certain who will be left standing when the smoke clears. A fratricidal battle in the GOP may be our best hope to keep control of the Senate and White House in 2012; however, don't and I repeat, don't count the Tea Party crazies out!

The most likely outcome will be, that the Teahadists will re-emerge by 2016, more likely by 2014, rebranded and with new slogans. The people behind the Tea Party are largely people who were active in the Religious Right in the Reagan years. The whacko wing of the Republican party is not going to relinquish control! We may see a brief period, after the election when the brain-free media announce that "The moderates have retaken control of the Republican party from 'the conservatives.'" The M$Media, of course, refers to the far right as 'moderates' and the absolute loonies as 'conservatives.' I think we all realize that there hasn't been any such thing as a Republican 'moderate' for more than a generation!

The Tea Party is an astroturf, Frankenstein monster created by big money types like the Koch brothers and Machiavellian strategists like Norquist and Karl Rove. If the monster meets his end in a burning windmill, well, back to the lab!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:37 PM

31. "Even a few Republicans around Tallahassee have described the governor's style as 'dictatorial.' "

http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/Jeobcracy.html

Yet another reason never to elect another Bush.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:42 PM

34. From the Garden Gnome who has psycho-sexual fantasies about drowning babies in bathtubs

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:40 PM

36. Amazing how "stupid" people become when they diverge from orthodoxy, isn't it?

I remember reading some remarks by Helen Keller about a newspaper publisher, shortly after she started talking about political ideas he didn't like:

"At that time the compliments he paid me were so generous that I blush to remember them. But now that I have come out for socialism he reminds me and the public that I am blind and deaf and especially liable to error.”

Still, I expect Jeb is reading the political winds here. Anyone who isn't a complete ideologue would have to realize that the extremist personae the GOP is wearing these days is a big political liability for someone... oh... running for the presidency.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:47 AM

39. He's running in 2016. eof.

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:06 AM

40. Question> If RMoney "dropped out" of the race

for some "trumped up reason" ~ who would be the nominee for the Rethugs?


I just have this feeling that Jeb can see 2012 in his mirror.

Could he be put in place during their convention or would it be Rick S. ?

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