What's the difference between taking paper documents home with you and keeping them in your house

[Yavin4]

and having a personal server?

Security? Paper is much easier to steal than email data. All you have to have is access. That could be a maid, a repair person, a family member, heck, even a pet can be trained to do it. Also, there's no digital trail to follow to see who would have had access.

Are you telling me that no CIA, Dept of State, or any other person with access to classified information never took anything home with them?

[emulatorloo]

1. Former CIA director Petraeus hid papers in attic insulation

Former CIA director Petraeus hid papers in attic insulation

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141511638

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former CIA Director David Petraeus hid materials in insulation in his attic as the FBI pursued its case about his mishandling of classified information, the bureau’s director, James Comey, said Thursday.

Comey made the disclosure to argue the point that the prosecution of Petraeus, who knew he had top secret information and lied to the FBI about it, differed from the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified information.

Comey did not recommend charges against Clinton, the presumptive Democratic candidate for president, over her personal email server while she was secretary of State. He said his team found no evidence that she lied under oath or broke the law by discussing classified information in an unclassified setting.

In contrast, Petraeus pleaded guilty last year to knowingly sharing binders of classified information with his biographer, a woman with whom he was having a sexual relationship. The Justice Department made clear that the retired Army general knew the material was top secret when he divulged it and had lied to the FBI about it.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2016/07/07/former_cia_director_petraeus_hid_papers_in_attic_insulation/
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[YOHABLO]

2. Well obviously (Ret) General David Petreaus took some "work" home.

[Rex]

3. Not only that, he took documents after he left the CIA and was no longer entitled to the information

Then he passed it along to his mistress, who knows what they did up until the point they got caught. Traitors the both of them.

[Yavin4]

4. She sounds like a spy.

Ever watch "The Americans". That's right out of their playbook.

[Rex]

6. She was a high ranking military official too, the fact that they got away with it

shows how far as a society we have fallen. They both could be spies, we will never know.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

7. A LTC is not "high ranking" n/t

[Rex]

8. Yes it is. Anything over major is a high rank. nt

nt

[SickOfTheOnePct]

9. I disagree

but either way, we're safe. Her promotion approval to LTC in the Army Reserve was revoked.

[Rex]

10. We can disagree, in the army major is a high rank.

Or it was in the 90s. I guess I cannot speak for modern times. My only point is c-level government employees sure do get a lot of benefits and breaks. Not so for enlisted personal.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. Agree 100% on your last point! n/t

[1939]

5. I have taken classified documents out of the office for travel.

The protocols were pretty stiff. Yo0u could only take Confidential and Secret documents (no Top Secret and no SCI). You needed a double envelope with the inner envelope sealed and stamps and the outer envelope sealed and plain. You kept it with you at all times until you delivered it to a safe facility at your destination. If you got in late, you ate fast food with it by your side and slept with it on your night stand. The next morning you could deliver it to the facility and they would secure it and keep it, or return it to you when you were traveling back. You did not let the document out of your sight.

What used to upset me was that people would create documents which people needed on a daily basis and only a few paragraphs were classified, but the entire document had to be classified at the highest level of any information in the document. I used to urge people creating documents to put all of the classified material in one annex wich would allow the document to be circulated freely with the annotation "classified annex removed". The annex could then be in a safe while the rest of the document could be copied, quoted, and treated like any other unclassified action.