Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:35 PM
Swede (27,081 posts)
Tommy Chong just announced he has cancer on CNN.
He said he is going to treat it with marijuana.
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32 replies, 3121 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Swede | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| yourout | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| virgogal | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| Webster Green | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| virgogal | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| RainDog | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| kestrel91316 | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| virgogal | Jun 2012 | #31 | |
| TheWraith | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| RainDog | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| Webster Green | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| kestrel91316 | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| LeftyMom | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| Webster Green | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| RainDog | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| virgogal | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| Egalitarian Thug | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| RainDog | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| Egalitarian Thug | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| RainDog | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| Egalitarian Thug | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| treestar | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| JitterbugPerfume | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| DLine | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| kestrel91316 | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| Woody Woodpecker | Jun 2012 | #30 | |
| Zoeisright | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| HopeHoops | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| sadbear | Jun 2012 | #32 | |
| DefenseLawyer | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| Webster Green | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| Woody Woodpecker | Jun 2012 | #29 |
Response to Swede (Original post)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:37 PM
yourout (6,144 posts)
1. Again and again and again and again.......
Response to Swede (Original post)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:38 PM
virgogal (7,420 posts)
2. Marijuana won't cure cancer but it sure as hell will help with
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the discomfort.
I wish him well. |
Response to virgogal (Reply #2)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:42 PM
Webster Green (13,895 posts)
5. Current research indicates otherwise.
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Cannabis has been shown to have cancer-fighting properties. It truly is a miracle herb.
I'll post links when I get a chance. I've got stuff on the grill. |
Response to Webster Green (Reply #5)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:53 PM
virgogal (7,420 posts)
7. I wasn't aware of that. The links would be great. Happy eating.
Response to virgogal (Reply #7)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:53 AM
kestrel91316 (45,434 posts)
20. 420 magazine has lots of source material on its website.
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http://www.420magazine.com/forums/medical-marijuana/
Endless articles from everywhere on the web about ALL the medical uses for MJ. |
Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #20)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:49 PM
virgogal (7,420 posts)
31. Thanks for the info and link. I've been screaming for it's
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legalization for about 35 years----and I've never used it.
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Response to Webster Green (Reply #5)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
14. Not "miraculous," no.
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And it's annoying when people present it as being a super-cure-all for everything. In this case it's rather obvious that if marijuana really killed cancer, chances are Tommy Chong would be the most cancer-free human being on the planet.
Yes, there's some research to suggest that THC demonstrates some qualities which MAY protect cells against cancer, but that's not the same as either curing it, or even being a sure thing that it really does have anti-cancerous properties. At this point people would be ill advised to ignore regular, proven cancer treatments in favor of smoking a lot of pot and hoping that it helps. |
Response to TheWraith (Reply #14)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:35 AM
RainDog (24,299 posts)
18. I don't think enough evidence is available
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Last edited Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) but there are some very good studies that do indicate a potential. however, nothing is a miracle... the reason cannabis may provide a treatment for cancer is because it kills off tumor cells by denying them access to cell nutrition - while leaving healthy cells intact.
One guy who has worked in this field all his life did post pictures of people whose tumors shrank - and there's the guy in CA who has an amateur vid - but neither of these rise to the level of scientific evidence via controlled studies. And it's not just the THC that's involved. CBD, another cannabinoid, has shown some great results for cancer treatment in the human test phase to shrink brain tumors - but those tumors were already lethal. It did shrink them, however, by the process described above. I don't think anyone would recommend that anyone forgo regular health care treatment. But maybe Chong, since prostate cancer like his generally goes untreated, is making himself a public test subject. I'm sure his doctor is keeping track of the progress of the cancer. |
Response to TheWraith (Reply #14)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:41 AM
Webster Green (13,895 posts)
19. Yeah, I know.
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How about "amazing"? I'm referring to the many, many uses of cannabis, from industrial hemp to the various medicinal uses, as well as the recreational value.
I call it a miracle herb, but I don't really even believe in miracles. I don't mean it literally, but it is arguably the most useful plant known to man. |
Response to Webster Green (Reply #19)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:54 AM
kestrel91316 (45,434 posts)
21. It's definitely useful to me, and I don't mean recreationally.
Response to Webster Green (Reply #5)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:55 AM
LeftyMom (44,453 posts)
22. Gee, you'd think Tommy freakin' Chong would be cancer proof then.
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Grilling causes carcinogenic compounds to form in meats, btw.
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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #22)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:42 AM
Webster Green (13,895 posts)
24. I don't think it's quite that black & white.
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Cannabis has showed promise in this area, and deserves further research, not prohibition.
Grilling may well cause carcinogens, but there are also quality of life issues involved here. .............."and I'm still......grillin' ". |
Response to virgogal (Reply #2)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:51 PM
RainDog (24,299 posts)
6. He's 74. It's slow-growing prostate cancer
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I don't know if this applies to him - but I heard a doctor on NPR the other day talking about balancing quality of life against treatment after a certain age for non-aggressive prostate cancer.
More than 80% of men will develop prostate cancer by the age of 80. However, in the majority of cases, it will be slow-growing and harmless. In such men, diagnosing prostate cancer is overdiagnosis—the needless identification of a technically aberrant condition that will never harm the patient—and treatment in such men exposes them to all of the adverse effects, with no possibility of extending their lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer So, after a certain age, it seems like old age in general will get you before the cancer does - and the treatment is more likely to get you than the cancer, too. |
Response to RainDog (Reply #6)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:55 PM
virgogal (7,420 posts)
9. Thank you so much for that info.
Response to RainDog (Reply #6)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:58 PM
Egalitarian Thug (7,221 posts)
11. Yes, but old age doesn't necessarily put hundreds of thousands of dollars into the
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pockets of Big Med, Big Pharma, & the health insurance industry.
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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #11)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:02 PM
RainDog (24,299 posts)
12. This sort of cancer is not necessarily treated with anything
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Last edited Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:03 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) depending upon the age of the patient and whether the cancer is aggressive or not.
Actually, old age seems to put a lot of money into the pockets of big med and the heath insurance industry. this is just one situation in which it doesn't. |
Response to RainDog (Reply #12)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:17 PM
Egalitarian Thug (7,221 posts)
13. BS. I have three friends right now that have been diagnosed, one in his 70's two in their 60's and
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all three have been treated to the hard sell by their respective doctors. Two are peripherally in the medical field so they know it's BS, but the third...
Putting your faith in the medical industry is the fast track to months of torture while they drain your assets. Once you're broke and the insurance company's not paying so quickly, then they let you die, but in excruciating pain of course, can't have you being addicted to pain meds, the DEA is always watching. |
Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #13)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
RainDog (24,299 posts)
15. okay.
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I don't really know what your rant has to do with what I said... but, okay.
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Response to RainDog (Reply #15)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:27 AM
Egalitarian Thug (7,221 posts)
17. Absolutely nothing, Posting while distracted with multiple tabs open.
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Sorry
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Response to Swede (Original post)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,012 posts)
3. He has cancer on CNN? Does he have it on MSNBC, too? nt
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #3)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:16 PM
treestar (40,529 posts)
26. Gotta love the English language
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Word order can be a problem!
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Response to Swede (Original post)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
JitterbugPerfume (18,073 posts)
4. He said he is treating it with hemp oil
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not marijuana .
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Response to JitterbugPerfume (Reply #4)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:39 PM
DLine (397 posts)
16. Hemp oil is marijuana...
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Not in its raw plant form but rather the extract from it.
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Response to DLine (Reply #16)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:56 AM
kestrel91316 (45,434 posts)
23. It is the essential oil of hemp plant, as opposed to the
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commercially available hemp seed oil, or the alcohol extract.
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Response to JitterbugPerfume (Reply #4)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
Woody Woodpecker (562 posts)
30. Maybe he meant hash oil. There is one other patient that I just met that uses it.
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Last edited Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:32 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) over the weekend:
And he is the youngest RECORDED MMJ patient. At age 4. His name is Cashy. http://coconnect.me/2012/02/23/boy-of-steel-cancer-free-again/ ![]() |
Response to Swede (Original post)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Zoeisright (7,864 posts)
8. Slow growing prostate cancer usually doesn't need any treatment.
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So it's just business as usual for Chong.
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Response to Swede (Original post)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:11 PM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
25. The OP actually sounds like a stand-up comedian joke. Hang in there Tommy.
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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #25)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
sadbear (4,220 posts)
32. That was the first thing I thought when I read it.
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A joke. Sadly, no. Hang in there, Tommy. We're with you.
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Response to Swede (Original post)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:19 PM
DefenseLawyer (8,400 posts)
27. One of the few "celebrities" I've ever met personally
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He's a really down to earth and thoughtful guy. Fight the good fight, Tommy.
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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #27)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:23 PM
Webster Green (13,895 posts)
28. They had me rolling doobs backstage one night.
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They opened for Blood Sweat Tears at some college we played. I was mixing monitors, and had nothing to do while Cheech & Chong were on stage. They had a little changing room right offstage, and asked me to sit in there and roll a bunch of joints.
That's one of my favorite road stories. |
Response to Swede (Original post)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
Woody Woodpecker (562 posts)
29. Good man.
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Now he has a legal reason to toke it up.
Like I do. (just waiting for the kid to go to bed so I can enjoy a toke outside) |


