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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:47 AM May 2016

Detectives called Trayvon Martin a 'n****r' and a 'thug' in secret recording



Detectives called Trayvon Martin a 'n****r' and a 'thug' in secret recording but were let off by sheriff who ordered them to take a cultural sensitivity class

Downs, 41, and Allison, 55, were unaware they were being recorded when they made the racially charged comments about Martin while they were on duty, the Logan Daily News reported.

Allison said: 'That n****r is a good n****r, Lord.

'Wasn’t that n****r wearing a hoodie in Florida? It was like 90 degrees,' he also said.

He added: 'We could make a little money if they all pay us to burn crosses in n****r yards. We could sell portable crosses like a wood cross with a base so you could just stand it in the yard instead of like having to dig a hole for it. it could have the fire starter chunks built in it.'

The Ku Klux Klan has previously burned crosses to intimidate black people.
When asked if Zimmerman was right to shoot Martin and if gun control played a part in the shooting, Downs said: 'It did, but a lot of it was because he was a n****r – a n****r thug.'
During the conversation, he was also heard to say 'maybe you shouldn’t be black' and 'I’d say, a dead one, you know it'.
Describing a black person, he said: 'All you can see are two white things - eyeballs and teeth.'


Downs remains with the sheriff's office and has worked in law enforcement for more than 20 years.
Allison left the force in 2014 after 26 years working there. He returned last year but resigned again after the recording was revealed.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3609093/Detectives-called-Trayvon-Martin-n-r-thug-secret-recording-let-sheriff-ordered-cultural-sensitivity-class.html#ixzz49joqGLeD
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Detectives called Trayvon Martin a 'n****r' and a 'thug' in secret recording (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA May 2016 OP
They should have been fired. Hopefully the sherif will do the right thing Press Virginia May 2016 #1
Yes, they should have been fired immediately still_one May 2016 #42
They don't fire anybody in law enforcement... Stellar May 2016 #44
I am shocked, SHOCKED I say, to hear racism coming out of the police! Scootaloo May 2016 #2
You too malaise May 2016 #4
what losers KT2000 May 2016 #3
Trashie bastards. lonestarnot May 2016 #31
No surprises Person 2713 May 2016 #5
What the hell is wrong with these people? prayin4rain May 2016 #6
Maybe they know not to do that around you. raging moderate May 2016 #16
I guess. It's amazing how the extreme racists can sniff each other out, or something. nt prayin4rain May 2016 #34
I think it's the look on their faces. raging moderate May 2016 #47
Gosh, it's as if racists and authoritarians were hand-in-glove. Octafish May 2016 #7
No wonder they let Zimmerman wander around the police station csziggy May 2016 #8
It should be noted that the cops in question are from Ohio, not from Sanford. Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #23
Oops - didn't read the linked article csziggy May 2016 #24
Sounds like they are members of the KKK MagickMuffin May 2016 #9
But they are too lazy to dig the holes for cross burnings KelleyKramer May 2016 #29
wow moonbabygo May 2016 #10
Pathetic and sad Catherine Vincent May 2016 #11
I'm not surprised kacekwl May 2016 #12
no surprise heaven05 May 2016 #13
Amen lykemike May 2016 #41
Police departments attract these types of people nyabingi May 2016 #14
Who is surprised by this? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #15
Years ago I worked in an office adjacent to a LibDemAlways May 2016 #17
Yes, it's us who work with these people who know what's going on. rusty quoin May 2016 #32
Lots of bullies, sociopaths and racists in LE TrappedInUtah May 2016 #18
I assumed that this was happening at the time. The behavior of LE toward Zimmerman suggested this. yardwork May 2016 #19
These cops were in Ohio GulfCoast66 May 2016 #27
Totally missed that. Thanks. yardwork May 2016 #33
Yes, Chicago had some bad whites. Like your family, mine tried to buck the racism. raging moderate May 2016 #43
These are supposed to be seasoned LEOs, but they're regurgitating the Chakab May 2016 #20
Someone inform John Roberts TwilightZone May 2016 #21
Absolute &)#$%-!@`*ing, *#$%~>, $%/"!-ed up, *!@#~!ing illusions of RiverNoord May 2016 #22
Thugs ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #25
If cops had this kind of contempt for rich white people police departments would begin filtering out GoneFishin May 2016 #26
I live in this county. Guess who comes if I call 911? N/T mackdaddy May 2016 #28
Disgusting! Arazi May 2016 #30
Every time I think there can't be any more racism left in it, more comes out. marble falls May 2016 #35
They're unfit to be police officers. "Sensitivity training" isn't enough. They need to be fired. N/t gollygee May 2016 #36
My god! PatSeg May 2016 #37
More proof of the existence of KKKops. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #38
And some people keep telling us that cops are the good guys. nt MrScorpio May 2016 #39
That's cops. That's who they are. That's what they do. Iggo May 2016 #40
stereotyping sucks Skittles May 2016 #45
Racist cops? No. Never. Police are our friends and are the crusaders of good. Look at Javert! Feeling the Bern May 2016 #46
 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
1. They should have been fired. Hopefully the sherif will do the right thing
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:52 AM
May 2016

and do what he should have done already

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
44. They don't fire anybody in law enforcement...
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

They just give them a 10-day break with pay. Cops can do pretty much do what they want with impunity.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
6. What the hell is wrong with these people?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

Who speaks like that? ? Thank god, I have never heard anyone speak like that in person, and I grew up in a small Texas town. How do they walk around feeling OK about themselves?

raging moderate

(4,281 posts)
16. Maybe they know not to do that around you.
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 26, 2016, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Every now and then, one of these white supremacists suddenly does a rapid-fire volley of their racist cant at me, with that odd facial expression like they are happy to be so angry. It always takes me by surprise, just when I am enjoying the sight of some sweet children or cute teens or a happy young family. I feel my jaw drop open, and usually they make a disgusted grunt and turn and stride away angrily. Then I stew over the incident endlessly, wondering why I can't seem to think fast enough to shoot a coherent rapid-fire volley back. In a small town where your family is known to be successful and cohesive and effective in countering their delusion, maybe they have given up bothering you about it.

And yes, it is true, sometimes we non-vicious whites do get a little overeager to praise Black people, but it's not because WE believe those filthy lies of the white supremacists! We are just constantly stewing over one or another of these verbal racist volleys, feeling sad and defeated about what happened. When we see a Black person who personifies a great refutation, then we sort of try to memorize a snappy retort we can use the next time it happens. And we talk to ourselves, saying, there, you see, there is somebody right now who proves that isn't true, and couldn't I maybe work up the gumption to speak up on their behalf, and if I work out the words ahead of time maybe I can do it fast enough for it to count.

These vicious white supremacists seem to have an uncanny instinct for finding the other person's weakest moment to unload their propaganda. They especially love the exact moment when you have food in your mouth and are about to swallow, so that you wind up choking on it. Once my husband took a job at a factory with a lot of whites and one tall strong smart genial Black guy. My husband really liked that Black guy, and also he was overjoyed that the other white workers didn't say one racist thing the first few days. Then that one great Black guy quit, and overnight the entire atmosphere changed to verbal poison. Lunchtime became very uncomfortable for him after that. And of course they are very aggressive against anybody who dares to correct them, unless you have a strong set of cohorts around you. Some whites have been beaten up, or had their pets killed, or even been shot for being "race traitors." As you might imagine, white "race traitors" don't tend to be among the most aggressive white people, anyway.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Gosh, it's as if racists and authoritarians were hand-in-glove.
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

Must be a few bad apples, ya. I mean, "jawohl!"

csziggy

(34,120 posts)
8. No wonder they let Zimmerman wander around the police station
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

They considered him one of their own.

Sanford was founded as a racist town and will continue to be one until some higher authority cleans the place up.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,082 posts)
23. It should be noted that the cops in question are from Ohio, not from Sanford.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

Not saying you're wrong though regarding the Sanford PD.

KelleyKramer

(8,847 posts)
29. But they are too lazy to dig the holes for cross burnings
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

Those guys are some real dirt bags, unbelievable they were allowed to walk around with a badge and a loaded gun

 

moonbabygo

(281 posts)
10. wow
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

I will never ever again debate an AA when I hear things like DWB. I'm disgusted and what year are we in 1916 or 2016

kacekwl

(6,993 posts)
12. I'm not surprised
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

there are many many more of these kind of people than you think. Just keeping it between themselves when they think they are alone.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. no surprise
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

cops generally, it seems, feel this way about all POC. Trayvon Martin 17 years old, Tamir Rice 11 years old, Sandra Bland 28 years old all in widely disparate areas of the United States and all in between and since, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, Eric Garner et al. and police kill unarmed black women all the time also. This is the mindset that can murder unarmed POC so easily.. And the Trumpchumps are getting worse. "Make America Great Again". For who, goddamit????

lykemike

(25 posts)
41. Amen
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

Your last sentence is one I repeat constantly. It sounds like "raise your hand if you miss segregation & lynchings"!

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
14. Police departments attract these types of people
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

because the unstated but obvious purpose of modern policing is to monitor Black and Brown people, with the discretion to kill as they please.

Not too different from the days of slavery.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
17. Years ago I worked in an office adjacent to a
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

small gift store. The guy who owned the shop was also on the LAPD SWAT team. He spewed crap like that all the time. Doesn't surprise me in the least.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
32. Yes, it's us who work with these people who know what's going on.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016

And it is Clarence Thomas who doesn't care. He has his white wife and is happy in his well protected Supreme Court. Of course he knows what is going on. But he is a person without scruples, on the court, making decisions that affect us all. He knows, and so he is an evil SOB.

 

TrappedInUtah

(87 posts)
18. Lots of bullies, sociopaths and racists in LE
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

Seems like the profession attracts these types and they don't really care about filtering em out.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. These cops were in Ohio
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

It could have been like this in Sandford, but I have no knowledge of it.

And just my experience...I am from the South, the wife from the rural, non diverse Midwest. While I have heard and still hear racial epithets in the south, I was shocked at how openly I heard them in the rural Midwest and wondered about it. I am slow at times but I realized it is a whole lot easier to throw around epithets when there are only white people around. Had I talked like that in HS in the 70's I would have had my ass kicked at school. And by my dad at home😡. He was a hard southern man but did not take to racist BS.

raging moderate

(4,281 posts)
43. Yes, Chicago had some bad whites. Like your family, mine tried to buck the racism.
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

I thought nobody in my neighborhood would say that kind of stuff. I am 68. I grew up in a mixed-income shabby Chicago neighborhood. We had mostly northern European-type whites but some others. And our school teachers and textbooks were all pretty unabashedly pro-Abolitionist and anti-Jim Crow laws. Then, when I was sixteen, I went to a party and heard some of the local older boys endorsing a southern white visitor's white supremacist cant.

The N word was far worse in my house than the F word. When I had brought home the Eeny Meeny Miny Mo song at age 4, I'd had no idea what it was about because I'd never heard the N word before. My mother and sister promptly sat me down and traumatized me by describing lynchings and whippings etc. and the Black people's brave struggles. As I say, nobody in my family doubted the Black people's claim to full civil rights.

But then, this happened. At age 17, I read "Black Like Me," the story of a white journalist who got some kind of treatments to make him look Black so he could expose and document the bad things that happen to Black people. I was crying about it, and my mother was trying to comfort me. "Don't cry," she said, "It's not as hard for Black people to have that happen to them. They are stronger than we are." See how clever and insidious the propaganda was in those days! The lies had been spread so widely among white people, with such convincing propaganda, that the poor white people who should have been stalwart cohorts were kept blindfolded.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
20. These are supposed to be seasoned LEOs, but they're regurgitating the
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

same ridiculous lies about Martin and the crime scene that you'd from mouth-breathers on local talk radio.

He shouldn't have been wearing a hoodie because it as 90 degrees out? It was a chilly February evening and the weather was poor. Even Zimmerman acknowledged that it was raining on the 911 call. But whatever, I'm not going to get back into the minutiae of that case again.

Given all of the different stories from around the country in which groups of cops were caught sending racist texts back and forth about people in the communities in which they work and their fellow officers, I'd say that this sort of thing isn't a surprise at all.

What's disturbing is that this is the only incident I've seen in which a cop actually had the courage to blow the whistle on his coworkers for this kind of hate speech.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
22. Absolute &)#$%-!@`*ing, *#$%~>, $%/"!-ed up, *!@#~!ing illusions of
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

human beings.

No %^&@ing reason to trust the @#%-!&<s with a stick of *&<*ing gum, much less the @#$*ing authority to exercise force on behalf of the state.

Fourty /*@!ing-one and fifty @%#-damn five years old, and obviously never learned any kind of lesson in general human decency in all that time.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
25. Thugs ...
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

... with badges and guns ...

... we need the Police ...

... just not these so-called "Police" ...

... throw them away ...

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
26. If cops had this kind of contempt for rich white people police departments would begin filtering out
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:47 PM
May 2016

these mentally diseased bastards.

But having borderline psycho cops who primarily harass the poor and POC serves the establishment, so they nurture the behavior by making sure the cops are never held fully accountable.

PatSeg

(46,794 posts)
37. My god!
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

That was like something out of the 1950s. By the headline, I was expecting racist comments, but I wasn't prepared for this. It couldn't possibly have been worse.

It feels like we are rapidly regressing, though obviously the racism has always been there. It is just becoming more overt and in-your-face.

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