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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:05 PM May 2016

Exposing Trump's Decades of Deep Ties to Organized Crime

What gets The Mouth hot and bothered.



Exposing Trump's Decades of Deep Ties to Organized Crime

Trump's real estate empire and casinos have mob roots.


By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet May 23, 2016

The first decades of Donald Trump’s career as a New York City builder and Atlantic City casino magnate are filled with lasting and documented ties to organized crime—including mobsters who went to federal prison, according to a recent series of detailed investigative reports.

“No other candidate for the White House this year has anything close to Trump’s record of repeated social and business dealings with mobsters, swindlers, and other crooks,” wrote David Cay Johnston for Politico.com. “In all, I’ve covered Donald Trump off and on for 27 years, and in that time I’ve encountered multiple threads linking Trump to organized crime.”

“Well, to be a developer in New York City, to be fair, you had to, in those days—this is talking about the late ’70s and 1980s, early ’90s—you had to brush up against the mob,” Tom Robbins, who covered organized crime, labor and politics for decades for The New York Daily News and Village Voice, told Democracy Now, when talking about his report for TheMarshallProject.org. “They were a force both on the employer side and particularly on the union side. But despite that problem, Don Trump seemed to keep running into them over and over again. They bought apartments in his Trump Tower, in Trump Plaza. You know, they kept showing up as people that he was carousing with.”

Robbins, who called Trump, “the slickest con-man out of New York City,” said the Republicans had no idea who their presidential nominee was. But as he reported for the Marshall Project, which covers criminal justice issues, and Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize winning business reporter wrote for politico.com, Trump knew he wanted to make a fortune soon after graduating from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968 and found a role model in one of the sleaziest lawyers in America—Roy Cohn. In the 1950s, Cohn helped Wisconsin Republican Sen. Joseph McCarthy persecute Hollywood figures for allegedly supporting Communism. Years later when Trump met Cohn, he had moved to New York City and was advising the city’s leading organized crime figures.

“Trump’s mentor on issues of politics and business was Roy Cohn, a lawyer whose other clients included a passel of mobsters, among them the bosses of the Genovese and Gambino crime families,” wrote Robbins. “Cohn… operated out of a townhouse on East 68th Street where clients Anthony ‘Fat Tony’ Salerno and Paul ‘Big Paul’ Castellano were regular visitors. Besides getting advice on their legal problems, as a former secretary later recalled to [Village Voice reporter] Wayne Barrett in his 1992 book, “Trump: The Deals and the Downfall,” the visits by the mob titans to their lawyer's office allowed them to talk shop without having to worry about FBI bugs. Cohn told a reporter that Trump called him ‘fifteen to twenty times a day, asking what’s the status of this, what’s the status of that,’ according to Barrett’s book.”

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http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/exposing-trumps-decades-deep-ties-organized-crime



Roy Cohn.
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Exposing Trump's Decades of Deep Ties to Organized Crime (Original Post) Octafish May 2016 OP
is this actually a surprise or even news to anyone here? niyad May 2016 #1
You're right, it's not news to DU. Octafish May 2016 #4
It'll come out PJMcK May 2016 #8
The specifics were new to me. Also we get hundreds of new readers every day. Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #20
The Devil is in the details 99th_Monkey May 2016 #6
If Hilary is guilty and exonerated she will be over-qualified to become a Republican candidate Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #22
K & R femmocrat May 2016 #2
Thank you! I remember when DUer DonViejo brought this up last year... Octafish May 2016 #5
It's frankly astonishing every time I reflect on our two "presumptive" nominees 99th_Monkey May 2016 #3
Interesting Times, Ours. Octafish May 2016 #7
Comparing apples and oranges is always productive. Trump is an evil con man who thieves. TeamPooka May 2016 #10
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #13
Hillary & Trump are the "same" <--your words, not mine 99th_Monkey May 2016 #14
The report cited the last 4 Sec. of State for the same thing TeamPooka May 2016 #16
I'm not going to stoop to your level of vile insults. 99th_Monkey May 2016 #17
A creative but silly thought PJMcK May 2016 #9
The Manchurian Combover Octafish May 2016 #23
K&R Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #11
kick Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #12
Trump, The Mob & Organized Crime Octafish May 2016 #24
It says something about the internet when Trump-trolls are allowed to hide OPs like yours... Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #26
The .01% and their minions all either mob or heavily tied to the mob. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #15
actually, some of them simply use the Mafia, without realizing long-term ramifications... Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #18
The Origins of the Overclass Octafish May 2016 #25
Thank you, Octafish for keeping us informed! You are a 4th Estate treasure. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #35
Robbins, who called Trump, “the slickest con-man out of New York City” --in other words malaise May 2016 #19
as con-men go, Trump isn't that slick. His victims are just so hateful and foolish. Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #21
Donito Comboverleone made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Octafish May 2016 #27
I lust love your posts -Donito Comboverleone - that's it malaise May 2016 #28
me too... Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #29
Ha malaise May 2016 #30
did you see the new Mississippi flag in a previous comment? Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #32
You mean Donald "Little Fingers" Trump? ArnoldLayne May 2016 #31
Personally, I consider the Republican political party to be our largest crime organinzation. Todays_Illusion May 2016 #33
Jack Abramoff type of mafia ties sounds about right. L. Coyote May 2016 #34
would you like a side order of Scanlon and some Cunningham with that special K cereal? Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #36
There has always been a fine line between... CanSocDem May 2016 #37
Here's one from Wayne Barrett and Democracy Now about dRumpf's beaucoup org crime connections: Mc Mike Jul 2016 #38

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. You're right, it's not news to DU.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

It was my hope that DUers would spread it to the 99-percent of Americans who have no idea.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
8. It'll come out
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 26, 2016, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm certain that Secretary Clinton's opposition research includes all that's in the article and more. I hope that they have so much that they have to be careful how they dole it out. Too much too fast and it'll become a blur. If they can illustrate for the American voters just who Donald Trump really is, the election won't be close.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
20. The specifics were new to me. Also we get hundreds of new readers every day.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

Some of these readers are still dazed and confused by media and undecided about who they are going to elect as president. Other new readers are from Canada, England and other nations.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. The Devil is in the details
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

Of course I already knew Trump was a mobster, but it's one thing to know
that and another to have all the gory details ln living color.

Too bad all we have to run against The Donald is someone who is herself under an
extensive and protracted FBI investigation, and who is far from being baggage-free.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. K & R
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

This information has been out there. That documentary about trump's activities in NY and Atlantic City is very revealing. This stuff rarely gets mentioned on the news channels though.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Thank you! I remember when DUer DonViejo brought this up last year...
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027001544

Thought it would have made a bigger splash, but hey! There was a lot of hate toward DUer Will Pitt at the time, so it is understandable.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. It's frankly astonishing every time I reflect on our two "presumptive" nominees
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

A well-known philandering mobster v. someone under a YUUUGE protracted FBI investigation.

What could possibly go wrong?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Interesting Times, Ours.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

"I bring out the worst in my enemies and that's how I get them to defeat themselves." -- Roy Cohn

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
10. Comparing apples and oranges is always productive. Trump is an evil con man who thieves.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

Hillary is a career public servant who is under what started as a politically motivated investigation like Benghazi or Whitewater.
But sure, they are the same, for you.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
14. Hillary & Trump are the "same" <--your words, not mine
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

Sure there are some important differences between these two multi-millionaire
presumptive nominees; which takes away nothing from my post, especially in
light of today's Inspector General report taking Hillary to the woodshed over her
cavalier disregard for security protocols re: her email servers.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
16. The report cited the last 4 Sec. of State for the same thing
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

Also you should look up sarcasm
Cheaters need to twist peoples words like you did to me there.
Don't think like a monkey just cause it's your screen name.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
9. A creative but silly thought
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

It's a modern Manchurian Candidate. Let's say that Donald Trump has deep and ongoing ties to organized crime. With their help and the Republican base, Mr. Trump wins the election. As president, wouldn't he be able to pardon or otherwise absolve his underworld cronies of their crimes?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. The Manchurian Combover
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

I like it!



"His brain has not only been washed, as they say, it's been dry-cleaned."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Trump, The Mob & Organized Crime
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

I can't vouch for the organization, but their research gives us a start -- names, events, places -- on the Connections.



Trump, The Mob & Organized Crime

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com

August 2015

While Donald Trump was building his eponymous empire of hotels, casinos, and high rises in the early 1980s in New York City and Atlantic City, the construction industry was firmly under the thumb of the mafia. In both places there are literally concrete connections between La Cosa Nostra and Trump’s lavish projects.

Now that he tops the polls for U.S. President, it's time to focus on his ties to the mob. In the book, “Trump, The Deals and the Downfall,” author Wayne Barrett lays out Trump's dealings and associations...like Salvatore Testa, a Philadelphia mafia boss and son of Philip “Chicken Man” Testa, Scarfo and Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, the boss of the Genovese crime family.

Trump bought a piece of land for $1 million from the son of Philadelphia’s former mafia Don, and used it to launch a gambling empire.

Another former business associate of Mr Trump, Felix Sater is an ex-convict who had gone to prison for stabbing a man in the face with the snapped-off stem of a cocktail glass. Out of prison, Mr Sater went on to take part in a $40m (£27m) stock market scam in the 1990s involving four mafia families. Mr Sater then moved into property development, which is how he came into contact with Mr Trump. Despite Sater’s previous mafia links becoming public, Mr Trump remained involved with him in a property deal in Florida for another year.

Could this myriad of associations, points of contact, and shared affiliations with known mobsters just be the price of doing business in that business at that time? Sure. And if Trump were just a private citizen, businessman, and reality TV star, he would be under no obligation to explain any of this. But he isn’t. He is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president of the United States.

It’s time to stop treating Trump as a sideshow. He is being treated with kid gloves because nobody thinks he can win. Everybody is simply waiting for him to implode under the pressure of his own enormous ego and unfiltered motor mouth. But rather than plunging his run into chaos, his racist ramblings about immigrants and undignified digs at John McCain’s military service have excited some supporters. They think he speaks truth to power. They think he is the only honest man in politics. And no degree of exasperation from level headed news people and party officials seems to tamp his populist surge.

CONTINUED...

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news1222_trump.html



PS: Thank you for grokking, Jeffersons Ghost! It really says something about our age when gangsters who can afford to get away with lying America into endless wars for profit now have to make way for lower class of gangster who make money from gambling and construction. What is this world turning to?

Like Charlie from America toasted Harold Shand in "The Long Good Friday": "To the future!'

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
26. It says something about the internet when Trump-trolls are allowed to hide OPs like yours...
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016
AT "DEMOCRATIC" UNDERGROUND!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
25. The Origins of the Overclass
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

By Steve Kangas

THE ORIGINS OF THE OVERCLASS

by Steve Kangas

The wealthy have always used many methods to accumulate wealth, but it was not until the mid-1970s that these methods coalesced into a superbly organized, cohesive and efficient machine. After 1975, it became greater than the sum of its parts, a smooth flowing organization of advocacy groups, lobbyists, think tanks, conservative foundations, and PR firms that hurtled the richest 1 percent into the stratosphere.

The origins of this machine, interestingly enough, can be traced back to the CIA. This is not to say the machine is a formal CIA operation, complete with code name and signed documents. (Although such evidence may yet surface — and previously unthinkable domestic operations such as MK-ULTRA, CHAOS and MOCKINGBIRD show this to be a distinct possibility.) But what we do know already indicts the CIA strongly enough. Its principle creators were Irving Kristol, Paul Weyrich, William Simon, Richard Mellon Scaife, Frank Shakespeare, William F. Buckley, Jr., the Rockefeller family, and more. Almost all the machine's creators had CIA backgrounds.

SNIP...

How did this alliance start? The CIA has always recruited the nation’s elite: millionaire businessmen, Wall Street brokers, members of the national news media, and Ivy League scholars. During World War II, General "Wild Bill" Donovan became chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA. Donovan recruited so exclusively from the nation’s rich and powerful that members eventually came to joke that "OSS" stood for "Oh, so social!"

SNIP...

Historically, the CIA and society’s elite have been one and the same people. This means that their interests and goals are one and the same as well. Perhaps the most frequent description of the intelligence community is the "old boy network," where members socialize, talk shop, conduct business and tap each other for favors well outside the formal halls of government.

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http://www.american-buddha.com/illum.originsofoverclass.htm

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PS: Thanks for grokking, Dont call me Shirley! A national news media with integrity would connect the dots. Until that happy day, we have to do the work of the only BUSINESS mentioned by name in the Constitution: the press.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
19. Robbins, who called Trump, “the slickest con-man out of New York City” --in other words
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

That scamp 'Don the Con'.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
27. Donito Comboverleone made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

Il l'erezione con le mani piccole.



SPECTERS OF THE PAST

The Klansmen and Mobsters in Donald Trump’s Closet

Trump’s campaign is haunted by his reported dealings with a Mafia boss, a drug smuggler, and a Russian gangster, as well as his dad’s alleged Klan arrest.


Michael Daly
The Daily Beast 02.29.16 12:15 AM ET

EXCERPT...

As he expanded into the casino business in Atlantic City, Trump agreed to pay twice the market value for land occupied by a bar owned by the sons of two Philadelphia Mafia bosses, the boys having made a name for themselves as part of a crew called the Young Executioners. The purchase, also reported by Barrett in his book, was reportedly routed through the secretary of Paddy McGahn, a thrice-wounded Marine war hero who had become as influential in his city as Roy Cohn was in New York.

In bringing high rollers to Atlantic City, Trump used a helicopter service owned by Joseph Weichselbaum, a mob-connected drug smuggler who lived in a Trump apartment while awaiting sentencing on narcotics charges in 1987. The case was prosecuted in Ohio but was moved to New Jersey for reasons that remain unclear.

As reported by The Smoking Gun, the case was then assigned to The Donald’s sister, federal Judge Maryanne Trump Barry. Some serious ghosts would soon be rising from that supposed coincidence had somebody not thought to quickly shift the case to another judge. Barry’s now-deceased husband, John Barry, often served as The Donald’s lawyer in New Jersey.

Trump’s dealings with mob figures appear to have included at least one member of Chinese organized crime. The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the U.S. Senate’s Committee on Government Affairs reported in 1992 that Danny Leung was both a vice president for marketing at Trump’s Taj Mahal casino and an associate of the 14K Triad.

“He was formerly a business partner with Eddie Louie, a 14K Triad member and the brother of Nickie Louie, aka Louie Yin Poy, a former leader of the Ghost Shadows Gang,” the committee reported. “Leung has also given complimentary tickets for hotel rooms and Asian shows to numerous members and associates of Asian organized crime.”


CONTINUED...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/29/the-kkk-and-mob-allegations-haunting-donald-trump.html

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
32. did you see the new Mississippi flag in a previous comment?
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

As of Thursday, 5/26/16 at about 4:15 PM CMT this Opening post had less than 580 readers. It was posted on Wed May 25, 2016, 01:05 PM... Trump-trolls (and other online operatives) might not like it; but I think we can eventually get thousands of readers. [watch me trash Chinese code @DU]

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
37. There has always been a fine line between...
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

...crime and financial success. Some would say they go hand-in-hand. Fortunately, you will soon know for sure.

Others like you, Octafish have also discovered the 'fine line' between crime and political success.

Hopefully this too, will become obvious to the good-hearted, trusting citizens of the USA.

k&r


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Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
38. Here's one from Wayne Barrett and Democracy Now about dRumpf's beaucoup org crime connections:
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/6/30/a_classic_state_capitalist_how_donald

The multi part series elaborates on all manner of criminal connections benefitting Fred and l'il donnie.

One thing that struck me was the connection of Roger Stone to Roy Cohn. I always had Manafort Black & Stone down as intel-connected repug operatives. I just saw a recent article equating Manafort to a mobster, has ties to Russian organized crime. I don't throw out the intel connection idea entirely, but wonder if that group come from organized crime and got involved in repug intel, or if they're from intel and got involved in working with mob connected people. Chicken or egg?
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