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AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:54 AM Jun 2012

69 Year-Old NY Judge Says Cop Attacked Him After Being Near Others in a Crowd Criticising the Cop

Judge Thomas Raffaele of Queens told the New York Times and the New York Law Journal that the incident occurred just after midnight on June 1. The 69-year-old judge had been cleaning out his parents’ house after their move to Houston, and he was walking down the street with a friend who had helped him move two tables. A crowd had gathered around New York City police officers making an arrest, and Raffaele called 911, thinking the officers needed backup.

One officer was ramming his knee into the back of a screaming handcuffed man, while the crowd jeered, Raffaele said. One woman, a nurse, called out to the officer to stop. Raffaele described what happened next in an interview with the New York Law Journal.

"As people kept criticizing, the officer got angrier and angrier and started to curse at people in the crowd and jumped up and ran toward the crowd and started hitting people," Raffaele said. "I was the first person he hit. It was a full-force, open-hand blow to the front of my throat. If I hadn't moved my head back when I was being hit, I think I would have been killed on the spot. That's how hard I was hit, and I am saying that from the perspective of someone who was trained in the Army on hand-to-hand combat."
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/new_york_judge_says_cop_punched_him_after_apparently_mistaking_him_for_a_he/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email


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coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
1. Judge Raffaele erred in thinking the man a cop and not a mercenary
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012

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in Bloomberg's private army.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Yes, Bloomberg was probably right regarding them being his private army.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

Getting over 4 million dollars from Wall Street kind of confirms who they work for. However, the people should no longer have to pay their salaries and benefits since it's become more than clear they get little in the way of services from the NYPD especially when it comes them choosing between the people paying their salaries and Wall Street and their stooge in the Mayor's office.

The people could use that money for a Civilian Police Force which they are paying for, but no longer have in NYC.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. Hey Judge
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jun 2012

Your position is superfluous - didn't you know that police officers are now judge, jury and executioner in this country now? How dare you interfere with *ahem* due process *ahem* by being present as a citizen or otherwise?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Another 'bad apple' just doing his job of 'serving and protecting' citizens in a democracy!
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jun 2012

Another psychotic, angry thug who should be removed from the streets as once again, it is demonstrated that the people are more danger from the cops in many places, than they are from criminals.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. wow I'll wager if the blow had landed in the way the cop intended
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:43 PM
Jun 2012

the closest person to the Judge would have been blamed

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. He hit a 69 year old judge
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

An elderly man, with apparently deadly intent. If that is legal, our country is going down the shitter faster than you can say "justice".

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. The only thing the 69 year old man has going for him is that he is a judge
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jun 2012

deadly intent has to be proven which I seriously doubt it can be and yes there is a case in which cops killed an elderly in his own home, on the basis of a medic alert alarm so yes our country is going down the WC

 

Mairead

(9,557 posts)
7. What's classic about this is that altho Internal Affairs is "investigating"
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jun 2012

they admitted that it's not because the cop seems to have committed a crime, but because his victim is a judge!

Police state anyone? You betcha!

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. Then the initial and immediate Blue-Wall of Silence:
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jun 2012
Justice Raffaele said that after the officer struck him and he regained his composure, he asked another officer who was in charge and was directed to a sergeant, who, like the officer who hit him, was from the 115th Precinct. He told the sergeant that he wanted to make a complaint.

The sergeant, he said, stepped away and spoke briefly with some other officers — several of whom the judge said had witnessed their colleague strike him — and returned to tell the judge that none of them knew whom he was talking about. As the sergeant spoke to the other officers, the judge said, the officer who hit him was walking away.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/nyregion/justice-thomas-d-raffaele-says-police-officer-struck-him.html?_r=1&smid=pl-share

Even if the particular cop is disciplined, what are the odds that any of his colleagues and his supervisor will be?

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
11. If they weren't wearing blue uniforms
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jun 2012

they'd be wearing orange jump suits. Goonberg's brownshirts need to be taken down a notch or two, and Goonberg could benefit from a good sucker punch.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
12. "He didn't know she was pregnant"
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jun 2012

Was the recent response by the Chicago Chief of Police to a cop tasing a woman after she ripped up a parking ticket in front of him. He went on to say that the taser was used properly to subdue someone in a non-lethal manner. The unasked and unanswered question was:

Why was she being subdued?

Had she driven away with the ticket then threw it away when she went home, would they have gone to her house to arrest her when the ticket went unpaid? No. So why would he have tried arresting her there?

Because she pissed him off. He was trying to arrest her for the crime of pissing him off which should be an illegal arrest on his part.


allan01

(1,950 posts)
13. re:69 Year-Old NY Judge Says Cop Attacked Him After Being Near Others in a Crowd Criticising the Cop
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jun 2012

too bad for the judge. blue code of silence, blue code of conspiricy. protect and s serve . who? the rich.

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