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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:22 PM Jun 2012

Israel upholds deportation of South Sudanese

Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who in January cancelled the temporary protection policy, praised the court ruling.

"[The decision] will allow the deportation of 1,500 infiltrators who arrived from South Sudan," a statement from his office said.

A ministry spokeswoman said the migrants would be "processed" for deportation "in the near future."

Yishai was quoted by Israel Radio as saying he hoped Thursday's ruling would be "the first in a series of measures that would allow the deportation of all citizens of Eritrea and north Sudan."

"This is not about waging war against them, but about safeguarding the Zionist-Jewish dream in the land of Israel," he was reported as saying.

http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,16006400,00.html

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Israel upholds deportation of South Sudanese (Original Post) FarCenter Jun 2012 OP
Why not ship them to Madagascar? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #1
Why on earth should Israel allow them to COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #3
I don't agree with American nativists and nationalists, either Scootaloo Jun 2012 #9
Emotional but inaccurate response. COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #10
Actually, you just described the Mandate government exactly Scootaloo Jun 2012 #11
What a ridiculous analogy RZM Jun 2012 #7
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #2
Pure, unadulterated vile Godwin. n/t COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #4
Congratulations! This is the most offensive post I've seen this year. badtoworse Jun 2012 #5
beat it trollykins. cali Jun 2012 #6
I give this post two thumbs down RZM Jun 2012 #8
This is what happens when you have an ethnic state. You have deport people who are of the wrong Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #12

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. Why on earth should Israel allow them to
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jun 2012

remain? Or do you think they would fare any better if (barring the obvious geographical impossibility) they were to have arrived en masse here?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. I don't agree with American nativists and nationalists, either
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jun 2012

What Israel is facing is mass immigration from people facing severe repression at home. Do you think Eritrea is some great place to be? Sudan? They're single-party military dictatorships.

In Eritrea, for instance, unless you are Roman Catholic, Sunni Muslim, or Eritrean orthodox, you are a criminal, subject to immediate imprisonment without trial. "Prisons" are sometimes just shipping containers where you and a lot of other prisoners are cramemd and locked up, and the government just hopes people forget you ever existed. The state conducts semi-regular "roundups" of persons suspected of homosexuality; they are likewise imprisoned for three years or more sans trial.

Do I need to go into details regarding Sudan? It's not just Darfur; slavery is practiced in Sudan still, there's impressment of children into the military, and more than a few counts of mass child imprisonment, religious persecution even worse than Eritrea, etc.

So these are the places these "infiltrators" are coming from. Repressive, violent states that obviously have no love for the people living in their borders.

So, what? Let's send these people back to those nations that will regard them as deserters and traitors? That can only end in smiles, I'm sure.

Israel should allow them to remain because, despite its political flaws, Israel is a state founded on a strong humanitarian principle. It was founded by people fleeing persecution at the hands of Tsars, Fuhrers, Shahs, and Oppressive regimes. These people are not Jewish perhaps, but the fact on the ground is that they have nowhere else to go, no other refuge from their oppressors.

If Israel is going to send these people back to the clutches of the states that they are fleeing, then what makes the Israeli government one iota different from the British Mandate government that turned away ships of Jewish refugees in the 1930's?

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
10. Emotional but inaccurate response.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 09:20 AM
Jun 2012

Israel is a tiny country. It doesn't have the physical capacity or the vast amounts of money which would be needed to welcome all those who are fleeing the war-torn parts of the globe. On the other hand it admits all Jews from wherever, giving ample financial and logistical support to them. They do the best they can with limited resources, and, as the old saying goes, 'Charity begins at home'. Hardly like the British government in 30's.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. Actually, you just described the Mandate government exactly
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:41 AM
Jun 2012

They weren't letting in the refugees because the situation in Mandate Palestine was already dicey, and the British government just didn't have the resources to afford to open its arms to all comers.

But they're still condemned for doing so, because it was ethically wrong. You might not understand that word, "ethics." It's the philosophical approach to right and wrong. I suspect you don't understand the word because you are clearly not using it as your basis of right and wrong. Instead, it strikes me that your definition of these terms is set by ethnic considerations more than ethic considerations.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
7. What a ridiculous analogy
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jun 2012

So deporting immigrants who entered illegally is now akin to Nazi plans for the Jews? You do realize that most countries around the world have some sort of deportation policy, right?

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Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
12. This is what happens when you have an ethnic state. You have deport people who are of the wrong
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:55 AM
Jun 2012

ethnicity.

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