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shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:48 PM Jun 2012

The day prior to the election, it was reported that Walker is most likely going to be indicted.

His closest friend turned on him and began snitching. This John Doe investigation into illegal use of state resources has been going on for months.

Voters didn't "stand with Walker", and Walker's/Fitzgerald's policies because Wisconsin is dead last in job creation amongst the states.

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The day prior to the election, it was reported that Walker is most likely going to be indicted. (Original Post) shcrane71 Jun 2012 OP
Not to mention those dismal debate performances Blue Owl Jun 2012 #1
It's hard for me to buy that WI voters are that eratic. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #4
Where else was this sudden surge of support for Walker manifest? Blue Owl Jun 2012 #13
Wisconsin friends are saying that they're under attack by voting outerspace aliens. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #15
It appears he won't be indicted, is that the meaning of the OP? freshwest Jun 2012 #2
I'm saying that the reason for voters coming out in record numbers for a governor who is under shcrane71 Jun 2012 #6
I'm guessing the ideology of the Walker voters matched Walker's method. freshwest Jun 2012 #7
Exit polls show them as saying that they're going to vote for Obama in November; yet... shcrane71 Jun 2012 #9
They may have simply been afraid of a change. They have jobs now, so they want the status quo? freshwest Jun 2012 #11
Wisconsin is dead last in jobs. In fact they've LOST jobs under Walker. nt shcrane71 Jun 2012 #17
Do you think the unemployed came out to vote for Walker? There may be many self-employed. freshwest Jun 2012 #18
Thanks for posting this thread GarroHorus Jun 2012 #3
I doubt he'll see a day in jail Javaman Jun 2012 #5
Isn't Blagojevich, a former governor of Illinois, serving out his sentence in jail right now? Maybe Cal33 Jun 2012 #12
He also wasn't being recalled. Javaman Jun 2012 #14
This is just wishful thinking. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #8
You didn't hear? Walker's closest friend snitched on him. nt shcrane71 Jun 2012 #10
No, it isn't. He is a TARGET of an investigation (not just a "subject"). MADem Jun 2012 #16
From Dan Bice when asked about Shusters statement... Ellipsis Jun 2012 #19
I found the cite--that was a lively live blog discussion! He answered a number of questions. MADem Jun 2012 #20

Blue Owl

(50,351 posts)
1. Not to mention those dismal debate performances
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jun 2012

I'm thinking about opening up a used car dealership in Wisconsin if the folks are that gullible.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
4. It's hard for me to buy that WI voters are that eratic.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jun 2012

That doesn't make sense. It certainly seems more credible for crimes such as collusion to have taken place.

Blue Owl

(50,351 posts)
13. Where else was this sudden surge of support for Walker manifest?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jun 2012

Suddenly, magically -- the people of Wisconsin come out in record numbers to keep their google-eyed homonculus with the criminal defense fund? Seems odd to me. Damn odd.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
15. Wisconsin friends are saying that they're under attack by voting outerspace aliens.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:52 PM
Jun 2012

That seems just as plausible as the mass psychosis I'm expected to believe.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. It appears he won't be indicted, is that the meaning of the OP?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jun 2012

Perhaps 'job creation' was unimportant to those who voted for him, as they may be self-employed. Not sure where you're going with this, please explain.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
6. I'm saying that the reason for voters coming out in record numbers for a governor who is under
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jun 2012

criminal investigation is odd. Even more odd, we're told that the reason people voted for Walker is because they don't like recalls that are not based on misconduct. Being under criminal investigation isn't misconduct?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. I'm guessing the ideology of the Walker voters matched Walker's method.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jun 2012

It's a sort of rough, no rules barring the way mentality. They don't care about details of government management or ethics as codified into regulations, since they are anti-government generally, and believe it's like mosquitoes buzzing.

Probably thought it was all nitpicking by the Democrats. Just saying what I've had to listen to over the years, not agreeing with that mindset. The GOP has used the legal system to hurt Democrats whenever they wanted.

They may not have believed in the separation of accounts or manpower. I suspect many of his supporters have mixed feelings abut the separation of church and state, as many said they voted for family values. I'll bet they believe that the privatization of all government functions is better than having government do anything.

That's my take on why this didn't affect them, they really didn't care about what he was doing to get an advantage.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
9. Exit polls show them as saying that they're going to vote for Obama in November; yet...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jun 2012

they voted for Walker. I don't believe that there's that mass psychosis going on in Wisconsin.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Do you think the unemployed came out to vote for Walker? There may be many self-employed.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jun 2012

Those folks often what lower taxes and less regulation, and getting contracts to take away work from the public sector. I'm not arguing the facts, just explaining why they may have voted that way.


Javaman

(62,521 posts)
5. I doubt he'll see a day in jail
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jun 2012

and I doubt this will be resolved before the end of his term.

the indictment bomb should have been dropped a week ago, but alas.

that very valuable tidbit got buried under a pile of repuke money.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
12. Isn't Blagojevich, a former governor of Illinois, serving out his sentence in jail right now? Maybe
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jun 2012

you think that's only because he was a Democrat?

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
14. He also wasn't being recalled.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

Nor was there an election coming up.

he did that to himself all on his own.

and as for him being a Dem? Perhaps, but I think it had more to do with the fact that he was trying to sell senate seats, but call me crazy.

blago wasn't the brightest bulb.

walkers indictment came too late to have legs.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. No, it isn't. He is a TARGET of an investigation (not just a "subject").
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/06/scott-walker-survives-recall-but-investigations-may-zero-in-on-him.html

Scott Walker Survives Recall, but Investigations May Zero In on Him
Jun 6, 2012 4:45 AM EDT
Walker survives his recall fight, but reports he may be the target of two separate probes into shady dealings could still bring him down, reports Matt DeLuca.


Scott Walker faced down Wisconsin’s voters, but he may yet have to do battle with the legal system.

An investigation by the Milwaukee district attorney’s office into misconduct by people tied to the controversial Wisconsin Republican during his two terms as county executive is circling closer to Walker, with one reporter alleging this week that the governor has become the target of both the probe and a separate federal investigation.

The D.A.’s John Doe investigation into associates of Walker during his time as the Milwaukee county executive, launched in 2010, has to date led to charges against six people, including Walker’s former deputy chief of staff. While Walker himself has not been charged with wrongdoing, the investigation is ongoing and over the past seven weeks Walker has transferred $160,000 from his campaign to a legal-defense fund that he maintains is to cover the expense of cooperating with the probe.

A John Doe investigation, similar to grand juries in many states, is a sub rosa investigation in which prosecutors can subpoena witnesses and bar them from publicly discussing the matter under investigation. Walker first met with prosecutors in Milwaukee County in February to discuss the investigation. He denied wrongdoing in a statement at the time, saying that he brought two defense lawyers to the meeting to ensure that he was “in the best position possible to continue aiding the inquiry.”

But the governor’s defense fund has raised eyebrows. Walker has said that the money in the fund will only go to legal fees incurred by himself or his campaign, and not his aides. Though he has not been personally charged with any crimes as a result of the investigation, he has said that he needs the war chest to cover the expense of providing documents to lead investigator and Milwaukee District Attorney John Chisholm, a Democrat...


Much, much more at the link.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
19. From Dan Bice when asked about Shusters statement...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jun 2012

Q: Aaron - How does the David Schuster story, and last weeks Journal story with the homes of Villa and Brett Davis being raided tie into the John Doe investigation.


A: Daniel Bice - If Shuster's turns out to be right, I wish I had written it. Right now, I don't know if it is true. We'll see.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. I found the cite--that was a lively live blog discussion! He answered a number of questions.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/157510155.html

A lot of major outlets are running with Shuster's reporting. I say where there's smoke, there's fire. But sure, we'll see!

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