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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:09 AM

Quit being such pessimists, there is a winning lesson for us from Wisconsin

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There is a lesson to be learned by us Democrats from the Wisconsin vote, and it is not that money will win out in the end. No, the lesson is quite the opposite actually. No pit is bottomless, nothing lasts forever. We can force them to spend themselves out of existence. The amount of money raised to defend the indefensible, to keep Scott Walker in office in one state can not be repeated in 50 states, and boots on the ground forces them to spend enormous amounts of money. If organization alone forced the Republicans to outspend Democrats 7:1 then we can force them to do it everywhere. We lost a battle, not a war, and the enemy has shown us the chink in its armor; that armor is incredibly expensive to maintain.

Edited to repair typo.

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Reply Quit being such pessimists, there is a winning lesson for us from Wisconsin (Original post)
1-Old-Man Jun 2012 OP
GarroHorus Jun 2012 #1
lonestarnot Jun 2012 #2
1-Old-Man Jun 2012 #3
lonestarnot Jun 2012 #5
lonestarnot Jun 2012 #8
emulatorloo Jun 2012 #4
TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #6
lonestarnot Jun 2012 #7
TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #9

Response to 1-Old-Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:11 AM

1. I have a big take away from last night

 

Basically, the billionaires have to spend almost 10 to 1 in order to guarantee a victory in any election.

$10 billion in the presidential race is going to be hard to come by.

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Response to GarroHorus (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:13 AM

2. 2 trillion. Can we make them spend it?

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:15 AM

3. Every door we knock on cost them $50~$100 in TV time to counteract.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:53 AM

5. Yes!

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:35 PM

8. and the 27,000 calls made in one evening, how much for them?

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:52 AM

4. Excellent point and thanks for posting.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:42 AM

6. How would we force them to spend down to broke/unable to influence?

I don't see how the numbers support such a strategy when we are outmatched on bot accumulated wealth and income.

The top 400 outmatch the bottom 40% on income and easily on wealth and the bottom 40% need about every cent to live.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:34 PM

7. Well, when they spend it the no longer have it.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:23 PM

9. Too bad extreme wealth is quite renewable and they don't need to spend everywhere or forever

Two or three cycles properly placed is about all it would take.

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