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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sure this NRA ad falsely claiming Barrett voted to ban deer hunting rifles didn't help him.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/may/29/national-rifle-association/wisconsin-recall-nra-says-dem-challenger-tom-barre/Man 1: "Well, Barrett voted to ban 15 different kinds of guns, even a lot of common deer rifles."
Man 2: "I love my deer rifle. Barrett voted to ban em?"
Man 1: "Yeah."
Wisconsin's gun deer hunting season is months away, but you can bet the hundreds of thousands of hunters in the Badger State took notice of the NRA's claim.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)And no, not 'common deer hunting' rifles.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)two of my last three deer were taken with two different rifles mentioned in that article...
pipoman
(16,038 posts)actually voted for the 1994 assault weapons ban as they are alleging.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)may still be costing seats or at least votes..
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)He described how the Democratic Speaker came to him in '94 and basically begged him not to make the AWB a part of the '94 crime bill, on the grounds that it was going to get Democrats killed at the polls. Clinton basically admitted in the book that he should have listened and that it might have mitigated a lot of the 1994 midterms if he had.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)that there were 2 key issues in Al Gore's run which if played differently would have sealed a win. His support of global/regional trade agreements and support of the AWB and gun control in general.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Right after he finishes busting BP and all those corrupt Wall Street CEOs.
Or not. I'm easy. I'm sure that whatever Obama decides to do or not do, it will result in DEM victory.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)and lying to people about the threat of them being taken away becomes an issue that crosses party lines, I'm thinking.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Not just in WI, but anywhere.
"Crosses party lines", my ass.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I was responding to Hoyt's comment that "Anyone that hung up on guns ain't likely gonna vote for a Dem". Folks living in rural areas where people do a lot of hunting care about their guns - whether they are Democrats, Independents, or Republicans. The NRA lying about a candidate's voting record on guns could effect any of those people's votes.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)In a state like Wisconsin, you can bet that's probably more like two thirds.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Ollie North and worse are the leadership of this right wing organization.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)We'll see it elsewhere too
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)that is one of the huge ironies of the gun control movement - their biggest victory was the act that eventually destroyed gun control as a viable political movement in America.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)It doesn't mater if you call them sporting rifles, semiauto rifles, sport utility rifles, assault weapons, or assault rifles...if he voted to ban those items, invariably he voted to ban some people's deer & hog rirles. It doesn't matter what kind of politically charged/scary name you label these guns with. They are very popular to hunt with... regardless of their appearance.
IMO, this is a perfectly acceptable hunting gun (semiauto .308 winchester) that Barrett had voted to ban:
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Did you know yesterday that Texas adopted a law allowing you to shoot a deer with a silencer?
"How is this even a problem? Do you need to take out deer henchmen before they can warn the deer evil genius in his lair?
"Its a deer, you have a gun, it doesnt even have hands. How much more of an edge do you need?
"Right now Congress is considering a bill that would forbid the EPA from regulating the lead in bullets. Not that the EPA is regulating lead in bullets, but it might. And imagine what it could do if it linked up with the deer.
"Hunters leave three thousand tons of lead bullets in Americas forests every year, which poisons 20 million birds, birds that will never know the joy of being blown to pieces by a miserable chinless fuckface.
"Why cant we even pass a rule against poison bullets?
"This is a cautionary tale about what happens when the Democrats completely lay down on an issue and let the right get whatever they want: you get insanity.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)if comedy is pointing out the tragedy of our ways...
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...kinda like the Republican Party, oh wait, they're now one and the same.
Fuck the NRA.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Like, in time to have done some good?
AK-47 makes a poor hunting rifle, anyway. I'd take a Remington 700 over that, any day, for deer.