Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:30 AM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

Watched a bagger have an epiphany yesterday

Been seeing and listening to this guy for years at the restaurant where we both eat at.

He hated everything about Democrats. And wasn't shy about loudly saying so either.

Turns out he was on his wife's employee insurance and his wife had the premiums being deducted from her paycheck every week so he had decided not to pay for insurance where he worked at. He felt it was a waste of money.

He went to pick up a prescription last week and the pharmacist informed him he didn't have any coverage.

He ran home and called Blue Cross and they informed him that his wife's employer had not been paying the premiums for 4 months. He told them the money has been deducted from his wife's paycheck though. Blue Cross said that very well may be true but his wife's employers had not been submitting the premium payment to them which is what counts.

This guy had been calling lawyer after lawyer and none of them would touch this.

Now this guy has no insurance coverage, can't purchase coverage with his and his wife's preexisting conditions and he has $55,000 worth of unpaid hospital bills for he and his wife sitting at home and no money to pay them.

He was asking out loud, "What do I do now?"

That is when I spoke up. I said it kind of looks like your only option is Obama-Care.

So the guy who hates Obama asked me where he can sign up.

I personally don't know all the ins and outs for this stuff so I told him to call our Congressman's office and ask someone there about it.

He thought about that for a minute and then said with a look on his face like he was eating lemons, "But our Congressman is Jesse Jackson Jr.", who I know this guy really hates.

I said well, that is who I would call.

He begrudgingly said "Yep, I am going to go home and call his office right now."

I shook my head in agreement, wished him good luck, and paid my bill and left.

Don

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115 replies	Author	Time	Post
Watched a bagger have an epiphany yesterday (Original post)	NNN0LHI	Jun 2012	OP
It's the same old story, isn't it?	Ishoutandscream2	Jun 2012	#1
When it hits them they always say, "but MY situation is different (special...whatever).	Dustlawyer	Jun 2012	#36
There's a great doc out on this	MrScorpio	Jun 2012	#44
Hot Coffee	dpibel	Jun 2012	#50
Excellent documentary.	xxqqqzme	Jun 2012	#55
That's the one	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#63
Craig T. Nelson said it best:	tclambert	Jun 2012	#62
What?	efhmc	Jun 2012	#64
LOL	drm604	Jun 2012	#89
+1 -- O. M. G.	bupkus	Jun 2012	#100
Your post should be shouted from the rooftops. Thanks.	spooky3	Jun 2012	#72
+1000 n/t	jaysunb	Jun 2012	#80
Selfishness is the great leveler.	Kablooie	Jun 2012	#43
yep + seen it in person myself	lunasun	Jun 2012	#92
Yes, I have an Aunt and Uncle living in the intermountain West.....	Swede Atlanta	Jun 2012	#88
I get so angry at people like this,	SheilaT	Jun 2012	#105
Maybe you should remind them. nt	nanabugg	Jun 2012	#112
"When it happens to you...	alterfurz	Jun 2012	#91
They only get it when they personally get hit	catbyte	Jun 2012	#2
This applies across the board.	mwb970	Jun 2012	#110
Great story but	Tanelorn	Jun 2012	#3
I guess they need to experience some kind of massive and undeniable betrayal	Jackpine Radical	Jun 2012	#5
They keep falling for a "trick" we all learned in elementary school.	TahitiNut	Jun 2012	#69
Stockholm Syndrome...	chervilant	Jun 2012	#113
Well, since most of them are older racist fucks who want to go back to 1940	snooper2	Jun 2012	#26
Maybe the Democrats can run an Ad	goclark	Jun 2012	#68
If you happen to see him again, you might also mention this.	denverbill	Jun 2012	#4
Yes, I am in HR, and that is how it has worked at each place I have worked. nt	Lisa0825	Jun 2012	#14
Serious question: Where does this guy stand in regards to "lapse of coverage"?	MattBaggins	Jun 2012	#37
I would agree with reply # 21 below on that. nt	Lisa0825	Jun 2012	#60
But can he buy insurance retroactively?	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jun 2012	#20
No it won't be retroactive and he'd better hurry in case the Supreme's overtturn Obamacare.	denverbill	Jun 2012	#21
IMO	Mr Dixon	Jun 2012	#6
it boils down to "the more you know moment".	Historic NY	Jun 2012	#7
Reality strikes like a two by four up side the head.	lpbk2713	Jun 2012	#8
Can't imagine it happening to them	get the red out	Jun 2012	#9
I hope he finds a way	JustAnotherGen	Jun 2012	#10
While the Shaedenfreude is cool and all, he needs to sue the company.	WingDinger	Jun 2012	#11
Agreed	Sherman A1	Jun 2012	#25
Well, to me it sounds they should contact the State AG's office over the theft of money, start from	NotThisTime	Jun 2012	#40
my parents went through this same thing in Florida in the early 90's	millijac	Jun 2012	#47
Florida	cosmicaug	Jun 2012	#103
But, but,but ...	IggleDoer	Jun 2012	#76
Definitely. Regardless of his political stance he's been really badly wronged by them. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jun 2012	#84
When it's personal, they get it.	BlueToTheBone	Jun 2012	#12
Yup. Most of the time it's a, "That's their problem." mentality. n/t	vaberella	Jun 2012	#17
Because they worked for it. Like no one else has?	SammyWinstonJack	Jun 2012	#27
How sad his story. I knew as soon as these idiots realize how they are being screwed they would	southernyankeebelle	Jun 2012	#13
I doubt he will become liberal- just use the system there for those in need	lunasun	Jun 2012	#93
Or maybe he'll keep voting against his interest...	cosmicaug	Jun 2012	#104
Seems Like Their First Call Should Have Been to the Wife's Employer	Indykatie	Jun 2012	#15
one of the more interesting aspects	wilt the stilt	Jun 2012	#16
With pain	The Wizard	Jun 2012	#18
I accidentally ran into the bag protesters at the Capitol in 2010	wordpix	Jun 2012	#19
He paid into Medicare	LiberalCatholic	Jun 2012	#22
If his wife were in a union	EC	Jun 2012	#23
I was thinking the exact same thing.	obxhead	Jun 2012	#70
Ya know what, fuck him...	Earth_First	Jun 2012	#24
+10000!	SammyWinstonJack	Jun 2012	#29
Eggs-zact-ly ...	bayareaboy	Jun 2012	#33
I know where you are coming from, that sense of righteous anger mixed	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#39
Um	WilliamPitt	Jun 2012	#45
Will, I know...	Earth_First	Jun 2012	#51
Fair enough	WilliamPitt	Jun 2012	#54
Gotta agree	flobee1	Jun 2012	#81
You know what? I hope Jackson's office is able to help him out.	DFW	Jun 2012	#28
As soon as he gets his situation settled, he'll be back to hating those less fortunate.	Hoyt	Jun 2012	#30
I think he will hate the less fortunate from the get go that he has to wait in line	lunasun	Jun 2012	#102
Great story.....but I expect no change	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	Jun 2012	#31
With the uncovered med expenses and his wife's job on shaky ground	bigbrother05	Jun 2012	#96
their unjustified hate	barbtries	Jun 2012	#32
Great story but	Coyote_Bandit	Jun 2012	#34
The guy may have a case against the company for coverage, AND the company may be fined...	M0rpheus	Jun 2012	#74
I had a similiar incident at the last place I worked	MattBaggins	Jun 2012	#35
There's a few like that where I work too	Populist_Prole	Jun 2012	#79
He defended the company that screwed over his father?	Grins	Jun 2012	#86
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)	Henley96	Jun 2012	#38
He asked where he could sign up?	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#41
Great story but baggers don't have genuine epiphanies	bupkus	Jun 2012	#42
Yep...	Snarkoleptic	Jun 2012	#94
Oh, yeah	bupkus	Jun 2012	#99
2014 cant get here quick enough	iamthebandfanman	Jun 2012	#46
2014?!	chervilant	Jun 2012	#114
It's how Fox teaches them how to learn.	Turbineguy	Jun 2012	#48
The wifes employer is steeling from her, that is illegal regardless of whether or not a lawyer will	uponit7771	Jun 2012	#49
Another socialists indoctrinated - good job	lame54	Jun 2012	#52
I don't understand the lawyers...	Ron Obvious	Jun 2012	#53
My guess (having been a paralegal)	SheilaT	Jun 2012	#57
How about punitive damages?	Ron Obvious	Jun 2012	#59
Again, I'm not an attorney, but I don't think	SheilaT	Jun 2012	#106
If the laws are such that the lawyer will get paid little or nothing, then	SharonAnn	Jun 2012	#66
Let's see if he changes his tune. You'd think he'd be afraid of the Obamacare 'Death Panels...'	freshwest	Jun 2012	#56
A former boss and a big Rep did that to us.	alfredo	Jun 2012	#58
Great that you had that power and that ability.	efhmc	Jun 2012	#65
I had some inside help.	alfredo	Jun 2012	#95
Good work. Where was this victory?	efhmc	Jun 2012	#97
In Kentucky	alfredo	Jun 2012	#115
The social safety net. You're bouncing on it.	Bolo Boffin	Jun 2012	#61
Perhaps the new Consumer Protection Bureau can help him	Samantha	Jun 2012	#67
a tough Consumer Protection Bureau	marions ghost	Jun 2012	#71
He'll still vote republican, I bet.	demosincebirth	Jun 2012	#73
There is no "Obamacare" to "sign up" for	jberryhill	Jun 2012	#75
Now to drive home the point ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2012	#77
And then remind him....	Grins	Jun 2012	#87
Good ..... Fuck him. I hope he loses it all.	RagAss	Jun 2012	#78
"What do I do now?" - Vote for the Dems. At least you can sleep with one eye closed. n/t	davidwparker	Jun 2012	#82
What is this "ObamaCare" of which you speak,	bvar22	Jun 2012	#83
I love this story.	rosesaylavee	Jun 2012	#85
Well, most conservanazis like him will make excuses to blame Obama for his loss of coverage.	TxVietVet	Jun 2012	#90
But I bet he votes for RMoney in November,	Ilsa	Jun 2012	#98
I don't feel sorry for him if	Shankapotomus	Jun 2012	#101
Find the logic in this	Bigredhunk	Jun 2012	#107
Watched a bagger have an epiphany yesterday	StarrMatthieu	Jun 2012	#108
I don't suppose you could have a chat with my brother?	Rhiannon12866	Jun 2012	#109
Don, you are so laid back. I admire you. My response	tsuki	Jun 2012	#111

Response to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:34 AM

Ishoutandscream2 (6,053 posts)

1. It's the same old story, isn't it?

They are unable to feel empathy until it has to happen to them. It never fails.

Watched a bagger have an epiphany yesterday

1. It's the same old story, isn't it?

36. When it hits them they always say, "but MY situation is different (special...whatever).

44. There's a great doc out on this

50. Hot Coffee

55. Excellent documentary.

63. That's the one

62. Craig T. Nelson said it best:

64. What?

89. LOL

100. +1 -- O. M. G.

72. Your post should be shouted from the rooftops. Thanks.

80. +1000 n/t

43. Selfishness is the great leveler.

92. yep + seen it in person myself

88. Yes, I have an Aunt and Uncle living in the intermountain West.....

105. I get so angry at people like this,

112. Maybe you should remind them. nt

91. "When it happens to you...

2. They only get it when they personally get hit

110. This applies across the board.

3. Great story but

5. I guess they need to experience some kind of massive and undeniable betrayal

69. They keep falling for a "trick" we all learned in elementary school.

113. Stockholm Syndrome...

26. Well, since most of them are older racist fucks who want to go back to 1940

68. Maybe the Democrats can run an Ad

4. If you happen to see him again, you might also mention this.

14. Yes, I am in HR, and that is how it has worked at each place I have worked. nt

37. Serious question: Where does this guy stand in regards to "lapse of coverage"?

60. I would agree with reply # 21 below on that. nt

20. But can he buy insurance retroactively?

21. No it won't be retroactive and he'd better hurry in case the Supreme's overtturn Obamacare.

6. IMO

7. it boils down to "the more you know moment".

8. Reality strikes like a two by four up side the head.

9. Can't imagine it happening to them

10. I hope he finds a way

11. While the Shaedenfreude is cool and all, he needs to sue the company.

25. Agreed

40. Well, to me it sounds they should contact the State AG's office over the theft of money, start from

47. my parents went through this same thing in Florida in the early 90's

103. Florida

76. But, but,but ...

84. Definitely. Regardless of his political stance he's been *really* badly wronged by them. (nt)

12. When it's personal, they get it.

17. Yup. Most of the time it's a, "That's their problem." mentality. n/t

27. Because they worked for it. Like no one else has?

13. How sad his story. I knew as soon as these idiots realize how they are being screwed they would

93. I doubt he will become liberal- just use the system there for those in need

104. Or maybe he'll keep voting against his interest...

15. Seems Like Their First Call Should Have Been to the Wife's Employer

16. one of the more interesting aspects

18. With pain

19. I accidentally ran into the bag protesters at the Capitol in 2010

22. He paid into Medicare

23. If his wife were in a union

70. I was thinking the exact same thing.

24. Ya know what, fuck him...

29. +10000!

33. Eggs-zact-ly ...

39. I know where you are coming from, that sense of righteous anger mixed

45. Um

51. Will, I know...

54. Fair enough

81. Gotta agree

28. You know what? I hope Jackson's office is able to help him out.

30. As soon as he gets his situation settled, he'll be back to hating those less fortunate.

102. I think he will hate the less fortunate from the get go that he has to wait in line

31. Great story.....but I expect no change

96. With the uncovered med expenses and his wife's job on shaky ground

32. their unjustified hate

34. Great story but

74. The guy may have a case against the company for coverage, AND the company may be fined...

35. I had a similiar incident at the last place I worked

79. There's a few like that where I work too

86. He defended the company that screwed over his father?

38. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

41. He asked where he could sign up?

42. Great story but baggers don't have genuine epiphanies

84. Definitely. Regardless of his political stance he's been really badly wronged by them. (nt)