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Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:03 PM

Flying Dead Cat Drone, Orvillecopter

Believe it or not, I wrote a story about a cat that could do unusual things. Never considered it could this, though:



A Flying Cat? Dutch artist turns dead feline into a helicopter.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-cat-helicopter-takes-flight-20120604,0,4470173.story

See the Orvillecopter in action:



B. Kliban would approve.

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Reply Flying Dead Cat Drone, Orvillecopter (Original post)
Octafish Jun 2012 OP
cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #1
Robb Jun 2012 #3
Octafish Jun 2012 #4
whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #2
Octafish Jun 2012 #5
zappaman Jun 2012 #6
Octafish Jun 2012 #9
zappaman Jun 2012 #18
Mairead Jun 2012 #7
Octafish Jun 2012 #10
Mairead Jun 2012 #34
flamingdem Jun 2012 #8
Octafish Jun 2012 #15
flamingdem Jun 2012 #20
Octafish Jun 2012 #26
flamingdem Jun 2012 #27
Octafish Jun 2012 #35
Mairead Jun 2012 #37
joeybee12 Jun 2012 #11
Octafish Jun 2012 #17
SharonAnn Jun 2012 #12
pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #16
randome Jun 2012 #22
trumad Jun 2012 #13
Octafish Jun 2012 #21
Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #14
Octafish Jun 2012 #25
zappaman Jun 2012 #19
sudopod Jun 2012 #23
flamingdem Jun 2012 #28
sudopod Jun 2012 #31
Mairead Jun 2012 #36
sudopod Jun 2012 #38
lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #24
Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #29
Major Nikon Jun 2012 #30
flamingdem Jun 2012 #32
agent46 Jun 2012 #33

Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:07 PM

1. Someone emailed me this today, and I must say...

OMG, it's horrible!

Not immoral, per se. Just horrible.

If the cat's eyes were less surprised it would be better.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:11 PM

3. I think surprise is a more than reasonable response.

I have the same look on my face, right now.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:14 PM

4. They're glass, but very realistic.

The poor cat got killed by a car. It's more common in Europe, I understand, to have pets preserved after death.

The Orvillecopter may be joining the most famous cats in aviation history.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:07 PM

2. Wha?

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:27 PM

6. Love it! n/t

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Response to zappaman (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:53 PM

9. Thanks! I was hoping people would appreciate the thing as commentary.

Once past the shock value, good art really can peg our catastrophic times.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:18 PM

18. While being great commentary...

it is also my dog's worst nightmare come true.
Can't believe people are pissed off about a dead cat that the artist didn't kill, but drones that are surely killing cats(not to mention people) don't get half the outrage.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:29 PM

7. Ugh! (nt)

 

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Response to Mairead (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:56 PM

10. With all DU respect, what's worse? That ex-cat or this real-life thing?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:12 AM

34. To me, there's nothing to choose between them

 

They're on different scales, but both horrible

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:38 PM

8. That's mean

I disapprove

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:59 PM

15. My apologies to the memory of B. Kliban.

The guy I was thinking of was Simon Bond.



Regarding the flying death thing: I also don't approve.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:23 PM

20. I identify too much with cats

so it feels painful and disrespectful. It worked for Damien Hirst though - he became famous with his dead animal sculptures but they were aesthetically adventurous by comparison

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:04 PM

26. A few years' back there was an exhibition of human bodies at the Detroit Science Center...

..."Plastinated" people from China and their parts posed in everyday positions. It was the most popular show there, ever.

Since then, they had a NASA traveling exhibit that featured a personal appearance by Eugene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon. One of a dozen men to have walked on the moon -- and almost no one was there.

The DSC's in receivership today.



The corpse plastination factory in Dalian. (Internet Photo).

Rumor is that the reason the exhibit's filled with youngish-looking people is that they were young people who were executed because they didn't go "with the flow."



Corpses in U.S. Human Body Exhibition Come from Dalian, China

By Xin Fei & Shiyu
The Epoch Times Mar 29, 2006

SNIP...

There is no ambiguity about the corpses for "Bodies: The Exhibition." The organizer of this exhibition openly admitted the corpses for this show come from Dalian City, China.

SNIP...

"Working Together with the Chinese Communist Regime"

Our reporter called Premier Exhibitions Inc. again the next day. Another employee, who did not want to disclose his position, said that the bodies came from Dalian Medical University in China. Because the Chinese regime controls Chinese universities, all the necessary procedures were approved by the Chinese authorities.

SNIP...

Bodies of Falun Gong Practitioners May Be Amongst Exhibits

In part because Premier Exhibitions, Inc. was not able to provide information as to the source of the body specimens used in the exhibition, Falun Gong practitioners overseas are concerned that these are the bodies of fellow practitioners who were tortured to death.

"The sale of organs and human bodies by the Chinese Communist regime is an inhuman, barbaric undertaking; it is a humiliation to all Chinese citizens. It also challenges the conscience and human rights values of the U.S. public." Epoch Times columnist and Falun Gong expert Zhang Tianliang holds the view that such concerns are not unreasonable because situations like this are very likely and almost unavoidable in light of the history and recent practices of the Communist regime.

CONTINUED...

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-29/39840.html



PS: I am sorry to have caused anyone pain. My point is that human beings -- whether in China, Detroit or Pakistan -- these days are treated as if they were mere things, to be used and disposed.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:16 PM

27. Wow, what a story.

I think it's quite valid to post the helioKitty, most art is valid and moreso if it starts a conversation.

I am usually ultra open minded but I got the feeling this person is a tad off in the personality department!

I guess it's the defenseless quality plus I think it's undignified to do things with bodies after death, of course
the Chinese example trumps the kitty x100000

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:32 AM

35. Acoustic Kitty

Poppy Frankenstein's Cat.

From the National Security Archives:

In a project known as “Acoustic Kitty” the Directorate of Science and Technology sought to train a surgically altered cat, wired with transmitting and control devices, to become a mobile, eavesdropping platform. In its first test, the cat was run over by a taxi. According to Victor Marchetti:

they slit the cat open, put batteries in him, wired him up. The tail was used as an antenna. They made a monstrosity. They tested him and tested him. They found he would walk off the job when he got hungry, so they put another wire in to override that. Finally, they’re ready. They took it out to a park bench and said “Listen to those two guys. Don’t listen to anything else – not the birds, no cat or dog – just those two guys!” ... They put him out of the van, and a taxi comes and runs him over. There they were, sitting in the van with all those dials, and the cat was dead!3


This heavily redacted memo appears to express the view that cats can be altered and trained to perform certain tasks. At the same time, it notes that “the environment and security factors in using this technique in a real foreign situation force us to conclude that, for our (intelligence) purposes, it would not be practical.”

PDF of Memo

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Response to Octafish (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:46 PM

37. There are some individuals who should be in prison for a long time

 

Straight prison or psychiatric prison, but prison.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:58 PM

11. This Dutch artist is a major asshole...nt

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:16 PM

17. That may very well be.

And I thought so to, but upon reflection the crazy thing said something to me:

Glenn Greenwald: Obama’s Secret Kill List "The Most Radical Power a Government Can Seize"

Along with the occassional crook, we are killing a lot of innocent human beings.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:26 PM

12. OMG, that's too funny! Wrong on so many levels, but funny!

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:10 PM

16. Orville Wrong

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:29 PM

22. Good one!

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:43 PM

13. yeah....very cool to disrespect an animal

If it was the artist grandmother ...not too funny, eh?

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Response to trumad (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:25 PM

21. Excellent point. All life is holy.

That's why I'm so, eh, bugged by the current drone war of "targeted killing." A lot of innocent grandmothers have lost their lives -- and their kids and grandkids' lives.

Even the oil-soaked Council of Foreign Relations types are wondering:

How Many Civilians Are Killed by U.S. Drones?

Sources quoted in the article range between 24-200 -- more since the numbers were collected.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:54 PM

14. I've heard of bird type drones

but not cats!

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:39 PM

25. Remember John Wayne!

...and Mrs. Chennault.



It may seem painless, but drone war in Afghanistan is destroying the West's reputation

A new phase of secret, unaccountable and illegal warfare is being deployed by General Petraeus and the CIA.


Peter Oborne
The Telegraph (UK) May 30, 2012

EXCERPT...

But by 2005, it was obvious that the strategy was failing. The resurgence of the Taliban, and the success of the Iraqi insurgencies, led to an urgent reassessment. In desperation, the United States turned to the more sophisticated methodology once favoured by the British and before them the Romans – the elaboration of a system of alliances, otherwise known as “divide and rule”.

This was the second phase, the “surge” of 2007, which made the reputation of General David Petraeus and rescued the second Bush presidency from disaster. Of greater significance than the temporary increase in troop numbers on the ground was the decision by the Western Iraqi tribes, encouraged by the payment of enormous bribes, to detach themselves, at least temporarily, from al-Qaeda.

The same tactics did not work, however, when duplicated two years later in Afghanistan – and so US policy has unobtrusively moved into a third phase: a new and as yet only partially understood doctrine of secret, unaccountable and illegal warfare.

SNIP...

So, in the US, drone strikes are a good thing. In Pakistan, from where I write this, it is impossible to overestimate the anger and distress they cause. Almost all Pakistanis feel that they are personally under attack, and that America tramples on their precarious national sovereignty. There are good reasons for this. When, last year in Lahore, an out-of-control CIA operative shot dead two reportedly unarmed Pakistanis, and his follow-up car ran over and killed a third, the American was spirited out of the country.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9300187/It-may-seem-painless-but-drone-war-in-Afghanistan-is-destroying-the-Wests-reputation.html

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:19 PM

19. I'm the only REC!

I feel special.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:30 PM

23. Someone once told me about a study where they showed random people

either a picture of holocaust victims in mass graves, or someone being mean to a kitten. By a vast majority, people were more outraged over the kittens.

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Response to sudopod (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:17 PM

28. They say psychopaths begin their practice

on small animals

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:41 PM

31. Ok? nt

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Response to sudopod (Reply #23)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:41 AM

36. I would be more upset by the kittens too.

 

Three reasons:

- Big-Beard religions teach that humans are "special" and therefore should be treated better than we treat "soulless" non-humans. But I note that politicians demand that we treat them better than they treat us. Coincidence? Not even slightly. Self-serving crap in both cases, designed to justify the worst behaviors and protect the perps.

- Cats are one of our three (dogs, cats, horses) non-human social symbiote species and, it's believed, the only one of the three that voluntarily joined us. (One theory is that they approached while hunting, became fascinated by the kitten-like antics of human children, and stayed both for the abundant supply of food and for the physical affection --they enjoy the cuddling and petting and respond by purring; we enjoy the purring and respond with more cuddling and petting)

- Human adults have at least some agency, some power to resist or escape; kittens and other children have none, and to abuse them is so vile as to be indescribable.

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Response to Mairead (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:57 PM

38. :/

:/

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:18 PM

29. I hate this. I really really hate it.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:41 PM

30. You could really do a number on a dog with one of these

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:52 AM

32. There's a Jeffrey Dahmer vibe to it

Why stop at the cat? So many other animals to mess with -- and as the addiction grows .. there's Johnny next door. Art, schmart.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:00 AM

33. This is neither clever nor funny n/t

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