Scalia died of heart attack, reports say

[spanone]

EL PASO, TX (KTSM/CNN) -

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's cause of death is a heart attack, according to WFAA.

Scalia died Saturday at the Cibolo Creek Ranch in Marfa, TX. His body was found after he failed to show up for breakfast.
The body of Scalia arrived in El Paso, TX around 2 a.m. Sunday.

A state trooper led a convoy of five vehicles to Sunset Funeral Home.

A spokesman for the funeral home said he expected Scalia's body to flown out of El Paso either Monday or Tuesday. He said all funeral preparations, including the embalming process, will be handled in El Paso.

Read more: http://www.wsmv.com/story/31218683/scalia-died-of-heart-attack-reports-say#ixzz40AnoebY5

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. I don't buy it.

He'd have to have a heart for that to be the case.

[spanone]

2. well, there is that.

[RiffRandell]

12. Lol!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. lol... so true. Too bad if true though, since death by heart attack would be WAY too quick...

Was hopin for a long and more painful death for all the hurt that prick Scalia caused.

If there is a hell, surely he's sittin on the left side Satan.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[LiberalArkie]

45. It can be long and painful with no medication.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

95. Oh okay... I stand corrected.

[BlueStreak]

105. If you were his heart, you'd attack too.

Get me out of this beast. I can't take one more day !!!

[monicaangela]

126. Oh I believe he

had a heart, and I also believe it attacked him.

[titaniumsalute]

3. He had a heart??

[malthaussen]

4. Beat me to it.

Then again, even Dick Cheney has a heart. He got it from someone else, 'tis true.

-- Mal

[Maeve]

6. And it finally rebelled on him eom

[Liberal Veteran]

44. Of course he did. It was a tiny, shriveled thing, much like....

....his soul.


What? You really didn't think I was going for the other joke, did you?

[TeeYiYi]

102. .

TYY

[gwheezie]

5. Couldn't Cheney have bought one for him?

It's the least Cheney could have done

[Katashi_itto]

7. Damn. I was hoping Ebola.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Yes, that would have been a preferable way for Scalia to go!

[LiberalAndProud]

8. I hope they test for succinylcholine

for the Freepers' sake, you know.

on edit: sarcasm tag, just in case

[Brother Buzz]

9. Embalming the body?

Why bother, he's just going to burn in Hell anyway.

[yeoman6987]

10. I am not looking forward to the day a beloved liberal dies.

The right will be on a free for all and we won't be able to say a thing.

[Kalidurga]

13. I have already seen that happen

So you were saying...

[yeoman6987]

16. I don't like it at all.

[Kalidurga]

21. I don't like it much myself. It is what it is.

A very very bad man died. I have no problem with people grave dancing for that. I had no problems with the Brits and their celebrating when Thatcher died. And if the RWers celebrate when one of our icons die I actually don't have a big problem with that. I have seen them do it and it effected me so much I can't even remember who died that made them happy, but yes I did see it the specifics allude me at the moment though.

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. Sen Paul Wellstone.

[Kalidurga]

67. yep I don't understand the rush to protect RWers from attacks just cuz they died

It isn't like conservatives have a clean slate on this. And even if they did well a RWer died it's not a loss.

[Doremus]

96. Yup, and Teddy Kennedy.

[Gormy Cuss]

14. They'll do that regardless of what DUers post about Scalia's passing.

There was a time on DU when grave dancing was frowned upon, when most DUers tried to be above it. No more, the community standards here are to encourage and support speaking ill of the newly departed.

RW boards OTOH have always seemed to dance enthusiastically on still-warm corpses.

[yeoman6987]

17. A shame on both sides

[Brother Buzz]

15. Meh, it's a forgone conclusion the right wing echo machine will ratchet up the noise

Always has, always will.

[yeoman6987]

19. Sad!

[Brother Buzz]

25. Sad, was the repeal of the FCC's Fairness Doctrine in 1987 (think Reagan)

Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)

That was the year the right wing echo machine reached its stride.

[GoCubsGo]

20. You mean like the free-for-all they had when Ted Kennedy died?

[Kalidurga]

22. Oh thanks I just posted I couldn't remember who died that made RWers happy.

It was Ted Kennedy and they said a lot of vile things. A lot of vile things I promptly didn't care about because it was RWer bullshit.

[GGJohn]

26. And the same thing happened when Ted Stevens was killed in a plane crash

in AK.
Both sides engage in this bad behavior, IMO, I refuse to join in the grave dancing, I'll just RIP and leave it at that.

[Kalidurga]

33. I will always join those who side with goodness over evil vile people.

Even if they are grave dancing. It does not show a person has better character to refrain from calling out evil even if it's over a cold dead corpse.

[GGJohn]

34. It's your choice to be hateful, OTOH,

I refuse to be that way.

[Kalidurga]

37. I have no problem with hating evil things or evil actions thanks.

[GGJohn]

38. Whatever, you go ahead and live with hatred in your heart,

I did enough of that before I wised up and started to enjoy a hate free life.

[Kalidurga]

41. Probably not. It's more likely you are just better at lying to yourself.

But, if it works for you knock yourself out.

[GGJohn]

42. Oh, gee thanks for the internet psychological eval Dr. Freud.

[Kalidurga]

48. I thought you would appreciate it as much as I did yours.

[malaise]

53. +1,000

I am no hypocrite

[Katashi_itto]

43. Lol, whatever

[GGJohn]

46. My exact response to the haters.

Life's far too short for such hatred, I learned that lesson years ago and let go.
People ought to try it, it's very refreshing.

[Katashi_itto]

56. I was in Britain and had their deathcake when Thatcher died. It was glorious.

And very refreshing. I look at the same way here.

When evil buys it, it's cause for celebration.

[GGJohn]

57. Funny thing is, I used to be the same way as you,

then I grew the fuck up and let go with all the hatred in my heart, I now live a very peaceful, joyous life with my beloved wife.
Try it some time, it's an experience you'll never forget, or don't, it's your choice.

[Marr]

60. Maybe it's not so much wisdom as just never having been directly hurt by the sorts of

decisions this man was part of.

It's a lot easier for to 'let things go' when it's other people dealing with the shit.

[Katashi_itto]

72. I have already made my choice.

I don't hold hated.

I embrace the simple fact a small bit evil has dropped off the world.

Try it. It provides even more reason for an already joyous life with my girlfriend.

[GGJohn]

75. No thanks,

I'm happy where I'm at in our lives.

[atreides1]

85. Great

You go ahead and be the better person, and let the rest of us do what we please, without your lecturing!

[GGJohn]

86. You are aware that this is a General Discussion forum don't you?

I'll express my opinions despite your disapproval.

[Maru Kitteh]

93. Hounding people and announcing that you "grew the fuck up"

May not be entirely congruent with being all peaceful and joyous in your life.

[GGJohn]

97. Having conversations is now classified as hounding?

Learn something new everyday.

And I am at peace with myself at this point in my sunset years.

[Katashi_itto]

111. How "Enlightened" of you

[GGJohn]

114. Thank you. eom.

[Katashi_itto]

115. Don't view it as a compliment

[GGJohn]

116. Oh, believe me when I say that comiing from you,

I viewed it exactly as it was intended, so don't for a moment think my reply was sincere.
But I do consider myself enlightened, and that's all that counts.

Have a great President's Day.

[Katashi_itto]

118. I have the day off from work as NASA is closed for the day.

Plan on going down to the French Quarter for brunch at the "Court of the Two Sisters" with my girlfriend. We have reservations.

A celebration of Scaila dropping dead and Valentines day gift to my GF.

It's all good.

[GGJohn]

119. I'm retired from the Army, but we do own a small farm here in AZ,

so we don't get too many days off, but I think I'll treat my lovely wife to a nice day in Flagstaff, topped off by a nice quiet dinner in one of our restaurants.

Peace be with you and your girlfriend.

[Katashi_itto]

120. You too. Navy Vet here.

[GoCubsGo]

28. They were pretty nasty when Beau Biden died, as well.

On one hand, I hate it when people here stoop to their level. But, I do understand it, especially as one of millions who had her life totally ruined by his contribution to Bush vs. Gore, and who will likely never be able to recover from it thanks to his Citizens United vote. And, for the most part, the grave-dancing here doesn't come anywhere near the level of vileness we see from the right on a regular basis. I am trying my hardest to refrain from it, but it's not easy. My tongue is bleeding from biting it so hard.

[Kalidurga]

35. Well I understand this really I do even if I don't say it.

I think that if you are having a hard time refraining from it you shouldn't. I don't mean you should share your feelings do it if you like though. But, write out how you feel. Dance in the privacy of your home I mean like really dance put on some music like K C and the Sunshine boys and dance. It's really okay to feel good when a bad guy passes it really is. We lose tons more good people and it's sad when good people die and it's because of people like Scalia.

[LiberalAndProud]

65. The right has done.

Ted Kennedy didn't fare well in the eulogy department at freeperville, as was their right and privilege.

[Kingofalldems]

68. Rush Limbaugh laughs about Dems dying all the time.

I am sure you know that so I don't get your post at all.

[GGJohn]

76. Oh, well then, that makes it all ok that we become like them.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Kingofalldems]

78. It's one particular person. Haven't seen anything like

what Limbaugh does for ALL Democrats. Good try though.

[GGJohn]

83. It happens quite frequently with both sides,

like when Ted Stevens was killed in the plane crash in AK, the comments on DU were just as vile as those on Freeperville with Sen. Ted Kennedy passed, or when Sen. Paul Wellstone and his family were killed in a plane crash.

My point is that we're supposed to be better than the repukes, and so far, except for a few, I haven't seen that.

[Kingofalldems]

81. By the way--is this OP okay with you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027611132

[GGJohn]

84. It's irrelevant to this thread. eom.

[Kingofalldems]

69. Check free republic if a Democrat dies.

I am pretty sure you have been there.

[GGJohn]

77. See post #76. eom.

[Kingofalldems]

79. See post #78.

[jmowreader]

27. It's illegal to transport an unembalmed body across a state line.

Fortunately for the taxpayer, after they give him an enema and put him in a shoebox, he can be brought back as carry-on baggage.

[surrealAmerican]

40. That can't be right.

There are religions (like, for example, Judaism) that don't allow embalming, yet require burial. If you could not transport a corpse legally, the deceased would need to be buried in whichever state they died in. Is this an exemption, or is that law a myth?

[LiberalArkie]

47. I think it has to be done quickly like burial without embalming has to be within 24-48 hrs?.

Probably before decomposing starts.

[jmowreader]

64. Jewish law requires quick burial as a sign of respect for the dead

The Torah says to bury people the day they die - which was a hell of a lot easier before you had to buy a burial plot and wait for your relatives to fly in from across the country. Modern custom is to bury them the NEXT day so the relatives can make all the necessary arrangements and be at the ceremony.

[jmowreader]

62. It's something a funeral director told me

https://www.everplans.com/articles/how-to-transport-a-body-via-airplane

Preparing The Body For Transport

Be aware that some states require that the body be embalmed if it will leave the state, and some states require that the body be embalmed if it will enter the state. In addition, some states require that a body be embalmed if it will be transported via “common carrier,” such as an airplane, train, commercial bus, or trucking line. If your religion has prohbitions against embalming, it's a good idea to speak with your local religious leader to get a sense of how your community feels about this issue, or see our article Religious Perspectives on Embalming.

I also found http://www.uscj.org/JewishLivingandLearning/Lifecycle/JewishFuneralPractice/GuidetoJewishFuneralPractice.aspx:

4.2 Embalming - According to Jewish tradition, embalming and the use of cosmetics on the deceased are not permitted. Embalming is not permitted unless required by civil law.

If someone dies of a contagious disease, the law says they must be embalmed for transport to protect the general public. Jewish law is okay with this. A Jew that died of other causes, and must be shipped within the US, is shipped unembalmed in a hermetically-sealed container. Bodies shipped internationally must be embalmed.

[backscatter712]

70. Just put the body out in the sun, and it'll cremate itself. n/t

[BlueStreak]

106. But seriously, I thought his wishes were for cremation. That was reported.

Why are they embalming him if he is going to be cremated?

[Brother Buzz]

108. I heard that too but I'm thinking Fargo

Customer: We sat here right in this room and went over this and over this!
Jerry: Yeah, but that TruCoat--
Customer: I sat right here and said I didn't want no TruCoat!
Jerry: Yeah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat, you don't get it and you get oxidization problems. It'll cost you a heck of lot more'n five hundred--
Customer: You're sittin' here, you're talkin' in circles! You're talkin' like we didn't go over this already!
Jerry: Yeah, but this TruCoat--
Customer: We had us a deal here for nine-teen-five......

[backscatter712]

122. Like I said, it be easiest for them to just expose the body to sunlight.

It'd cremate itself. Sweep the ashes into an urn and you're done!

[BlueStreak]

125. Much safer to cremate it the normal way

You have no idea what kind of creatures might get loose and crawl out of that corpse.

[C_U_L8R]

11. Erotic asphyxiation will do that.

But let's not spread rumors.

[fun n serious]

32. Lol! Eww

Yikes! The image that popped in my mind was disturbing!

[6chars]

18. good way to go

he probably had a great meal, some wine, went to bed. and that was that. we should all be so lucky.

[L. Coyote]

36. Nice digs to die in, private airport, plenty of animals to hunt and kill, ...

Shoot by day, die by night, every great vacation and life ends someday.

[GaYellowDawg]

55. It wasn't "that was that."

I've been woken up by angina, and it was terrifying. Most likely, he was woken up by the pain, but couldn't do anything about it.

[malaise]

23. Breitbart died of a heart attack

now 79 year old overweight, bad food eating, smoking and drinking Scalia dies - i say conspiracy - murder she wrote -

[NCjack]

51. Did he die in that room? In bed? With no one to comfort him?

[malaise]

52. Sounds like he died on the floor - it was a heart attack n/t

[CTyankee]

59. Um, where was his wife?

[GGJohn]

24. RIP Mr. Scalia,

cross gently and don't mind the grave dancing, which, IMO, is very distasteful from either side.

[840high]

92. +Thank you. I wish his

family peace.

[Nite Owl]

30. I wonder if there was any

medical history that his heart could go? Maybe it was being so overweight and eating the wrong foods.
RIP Antonin and peace to his wife and kids.

[Rex]

39. The man had a heart? Who knew?

Things you learn after the facts!

[SoLeftIAmRight]

49. viagra and hookers will do that to an old man after a day of killing.

...

[Quantess]

50. Grave dancing, for real!

I'm a nice lady and I take funerals seriously. Gravely. In most cases, anyway.

Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead!

[shanti]

54. sure couldn't see that coming

[MrScorpio]

61. He actually had one?

[Iggo]

63. Naked, cold and alone, if there's any justice in this world.

[malaise]

73. Yes

Yes Yes

[Ex Lurker]

87. Don't kid yourself. That's how we all go NT

[Donkees]

66. His heart checked out right before Valentine's day

[MerryBlooms]

71. My condolences to his family and friends.

[spanone]

74. amen.

life & death trumps politics

[GGJohn]

80. Apparently not to the majority of posters here. eom.

[Logical]

91. He was Homophobic and an enemy to minorities. nt

[GGJohn]

98. I not denying any of this, nor am I defending the man,

I just find the grave dancing, on both sides, to be very disgusting and I refuse to engage in it and I will speak out against it always.

[Logical]

100. I would like to know what human rights violations the other side is upset about! Nt

[GGJohn]

107. Look, you and I aren't going to agree on this,

so how about we just leave it at that?
Have a good Presidents Day.

[Logical]

124. I get sick of the false equivalency. As should you. nt

[Skittles]

82. the impact of Scalia goes WAY past his death

[backscatter712]

88. The politics of Scalia was life and death to countless people.

Be they members of the LGBT community that Scalia wanted to imprison, or the death row inmates that Scalia wanted to kill, arguing that factual innocence wasn't sufficient cause to stop an execution, Scalia fucked with the lives of millions.

I'm so glad that son of a bitch is no longer causing more damage to our country.

No, I'm not sorry to be dissing him in death. He was not worthy of respect in life. Why is his death cause for suddenly treating him with reverence?

[Skittles]

89. THANK YOU

as I said before, I will save my sympathy for his VICTIMS

[laundry_queen]

110. Exactly.

And it's not lost on me the multitudes of people calling for an end to the grave dancing are those who can be counted on to take the rw position on nearly everything. I just find that interesting.

[GGJohn]

117. LOL, yeah, right, ok.

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. From what I read that was my best guess

either that or a massive stroke.

[840high]

94. Ruth Ginsburg on Scalia..

he late Justice Antonin Scalia, a renowned conservative, and his liberal best friend on the Supreme Court, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, put ideology aside to strike up one of Washington's most memorable friendships. Their back-and-forths at public events often seemed more like comedy routines than sentiments shared by two sitting Supreme Court justices. Ginsburg paid tribute to her 'treasured friend' and called them 'best buddies' in a public statement about his death on Sunday. 'He was eminently quotable, his pungent opinions so clearly stated that his words never slipped from the reader's grasp', she added. Pictured left: Ginsburg and Scalia as extras for the Washington National Opera's production of 'Ariadne auf Naxos' in January of 1994. Also in 1994, Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg visited India and rode an elephant, center.

from dailymail

[mountain grammy]

99. The world is a better place without the presence

of Antonin Scalia. I have sympathy for all who suffered from his decisions and joy for those he can no longer hurt.

[PoliticAverse]

101. Those reports were refuted today as the person doing the pronouncement of death did do by telephone

apparently and no autopsy was (or apparently will be) done.

[exboyfil]

103. This is what actually happened

/revision/latest?cb=20120109101459

[Gothmog]

104. Drudge is spreading stories

[valerief]

109. I don't believe it. It was the silver stake. nt

[LisaL]

112. That's got to be a bogus story.

There was no autopsy so how would anyone know what he died from?

[backscatter712]

121. A simple blood test can confirm a heart attack.

When a blood vessel gets clogged, and heart muscle cells start dying, they release proteins into the blood that are easily picked up in lab tests.

I'd say this is an open and shut case. Scalia ate too many cheeseburgers, they hardened up his arteries, eventually his coronaries got clogged, he had a heart attack. Happens all the time.

[jpb33]

113. Corrupt, even on his last day on Earth

Scalia lived his last day as he lived most of his adult professional life. Unethically, getting free gifts and services from those who seek favor or access.


“I knocked on the door loudly,” said Mr. Poindexter, who said Justice Scalia and the other guests had been staying at the ranch free for the weekend. “I had him in a very large room — a suite — and I thought he might be in the bathroom.”


They probably also paid for his private plane flight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/us/ranch-owner-recalls-finding-justice-antonin-scalias-body.html

[Avalux]

123. I'm in Texas and this morning, my local news reported it WAS NOT a heart attack.

The medical examiner in El Paso says his heart stopped beating. Scalia went to sleep that night and his heart stopped. No autopsy, his body will be flown to Virginia either today or tomorrow after being embalmed in El Paso.

[lame54]

127. updated to natural causes