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Sat Jun 2, 2012, 05:18 PM

In Case You Missed This... 'Wisconsin Posts Biggest US Job Loss, As Gov. Scott Walker Fights For His

Wisconsin posts biggest US job loss, as Gov. Scott Walker fights for his job
Wisconsin lost 23,900 jobs between March 2011 and March 2012, according to data from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. It also lost more private-sector jobs than any other state.

By Mark Guarino - CSM
April 25, 2012


In this April 17 photo Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker speaks
to the Illinois Chamber of Commerce in Springfield, Ill.
Seth Perlman/AP


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While Wisconsin Gov, Scott Walker (R) fights to keep his job in a recall election scheduled for June, he is being forced to confront a harsh reality in his state: It lost more jobs during the past 12 months than any other state in the United States.

Wisconsin lost 23,900 jobs between March 2011 and March 2012, according to data released Tuesday by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. The state’s lead in job losses is significantly greater than the rest of the 50 states: No other state lost more than 3,500 jobs.

The majority of the losses in Wisconsin, 17,800, were in the public sector. However, the state lost more private-sector jobs, 6,100, than any other state. The only other states to report private-sector job losses in the same time period (instead of private-sector gains) were Mississippi and Rhode Island.

Governor Walker has been campaigning on a message that jobs are up in Wisconsin, responding to positive data for January and February that 17,000 jobs were added in his state. The loss of 4,300 jobs in March reversed that trend.


“We understand, it’s not the government that creates jobs; it’s the people who create jobs. The best thing we can do is get government out of the way,” Walker told the Illinois Chamber of Commerce in Springfield last week.

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More: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Governors/2012/0425/Wisconsin-posts-biggest-US-job-loss-as-Gov.-Scott-Walker-fights-for-his-job

Found Through This:Fox Regurgitates Specious Wisconsin Jobs Report, Touts Upcoming Walker Appearances

Link: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201206020004



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Reply In Case You Missed This... 'Wisconsin Posts Biggest US Job Loss, As Gov. Scott Walker Fights For His (Original post)
WillyT Jun 2012 OP
cilla4progress Jun 2012 #1
WillyT Jun 2012 #2
xchrom Jun 2012 #3
HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #4
obliviously Jun 2012 #5
HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #7
titaniumsalute Jun 2012 #14
HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #17
freshwest Jun 2012 #6
nineteen50 Jun 2012 #8
cilla4progress Jun 2012 #9
Bozita Jun 2012 #10
krispos42 Jun 2012 #11
Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #12
ananda Jun 2012 #13
bucolic_frolic Jun 2012 #15
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #16
Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #18

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 05:23 PM

1. Big Eddy reported this.

Audaciously, Walker's own statistics showed he increased jobs there..

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 05:30 PM

2. Yep... And Faux News Is Helping Him...

Check out that Media Matters link at the bottom.




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 06:09 PM

3. du rec. nt

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 06:09 PM

4. Which is probably why Scott's known as Wisconsin's Biggest Loser

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Response to obliviously (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:04 PM

7. All those polling results are a consequence of weighting the results...

a sticky business in such an unusual election.

The only poll that's going to count is the formal one run on Tuesday.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:20 PM

14. No it isn't

Weighting isn't the cause of these results. While the Tuesday election IS what counts you cannot dismiss polls because of weighting. Weighting is done in every scientific survey and is necessary because it is a sample universe.

In order to have fairly accurate polling a company must randomly select individuals to ask questions. When you use a random selection process (such as random phone calls) the sample universe never quite matches up to the real universe. Let's say a county has an adult male population of 47% and a female adult population of 53%. But the random sample universe comes in 50%-50%. The male respondents are weighted down to 47% and the female respondents are weighted up to 53%.

They do this for age, ethnicity, gender, socio-economic categories, education levels, etc. They will also do it for Republican versus Democrat. Now what can be disputed is the actual "real" universe of Rep versus Dem percentages within a county or state. If those numbers are off then weighting can impact the results. But weighting happens in all polling...or it would be non-scientific.

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Response to titaniumsalute (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 05:28 PM

17. Yes weighting is done...it helps if the weighting bends the data to better represent reality.

How can one be sure that a better representation results? Well that's done by using the weighting based on past experience, to produce results that fit PAST experience. And in as much as today's experience mirrors the past, such weights can potentially produce better results.

But there is no comparable past for the Wisconsin recall election.

This is the 3rd recall of a governor in US history. Elections for Wisconsin June are unlike history of the past few years, having an election in early june has the potential to wreak havoc on voter registrations of college and university students--in Wisconsin you can register to vote on the same day...but you must be a resident at your registered address for 30 days prior. This has had huge effect on early/absentee voting and bends traditional weightings on voter turn out. The election isn't about traditional democratic vs republican issues, it's about huge objection by a wide swath of the electorate to binge legislating in what can only be called tyrannical completely un-empathetic manner by a state Senate who have greatly overstepped whatever meager mandate their narrow majority reflected. Finally there's the strangeness of the senate special elections where unprecedented amounts of money being spent on state senatorial elections which are essentially the heart of the Wisconsin Recall. The senate elections are every bit as important to stopping the tyranny as is the gubernatorial election. It's unprecedented for state senate elections to exert leverage on the election of the governor. It virtually always works in reverse of that with senators riding the coattails of the gubernatorial outcome.

Bottom line, this isn't a typical election at all. And it's uniqueness presents lots of uncertainty about how to come up with valid weighting for these opinion polls. No one will know what weights are/were correct until after next Tuesday.








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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:02 PM

6. Walker: Job Loser! Romney: Job Terminator! No wonder they love each other.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:00 AM

8. It's not about jobs it's about who gets the prize and gets to distribute the money.

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Response to nineteen50 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:28 AM

9. 'zactly

The "99%" has been waging this battle against the "1%" since forever...

Despite temporary visionary leaders - from Jesus to MLK, Mother Theresa to Gandhi, even to - dare I say - Barack Obama version 2008, this fight will continue until human beings evolve to truly understand that we are all connected; what happens to the "least" of us affects all of us - sentient AND non-sentient beings; and our own survival depends upon an understanding and integration of this consciousness.

It's truly an uphill battle. I get very tired of it, and disheartened sometimes. Sometimes I have to turn away from it. But getting this larger perspective helps.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:45 AM

10. K&R

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:30 PM

11. TAX CUTS DO NOT CREATE JOBS. DEMAND CREATES JOBS

And when you gut people's earnings, you REDUCE DEMAND.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:53 PM

12. Exactly

This supply side nonsense has proven to be a farce.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:10 PM

13. bump

God Walker has a creeply smile. Ick.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:57 PM

15. Pray for Economic Recovery

A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose yours,
and a recovery is when Scott Walker loses his job!

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 05:10 PM

16. Why is Walker talking to IL Chamber of Commerce one week prior to the recall election?

Does he no longer need to do any campaigning on his behalf because the fix is in?
Is he getting more out-of-state dollars to add to his coffers and defense fund?
Is he more concerned about spreading his Tea Bagging message to other states than maintaining his job?

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:24 PM

18. I have little confidence he will be recalled.......

 

The amount of money being spent from largely out-of-state sources is unprecedented. Koch and their ilk know this may be a referendum on returning to the days when employees were little more than serfs with no ability to negotiate or demand better pay and benefits.

The right has been very aggressive in trying to convince average Wisconsinites that public employees live in the lap of luxury with salaries way beyond those in the private sector, have benefits that allow them to retire at 50 with $100K per year, free health insurance, etc.

Hopefully enough of the state's electorate are watching and were watching the atrocities promulgated by this Governor and his henchmen in the Legislature to know this is NOT democracy at work. Hopefully enough of the voters will realize that there are other choices that might bright a degree of civility and sanity to state lawmaking.

But while I pray and hope and contribute to the cause, this may be one we don't win. The other news coming out today suggests that even if he survives the recall he may be "recalled" to a federal prison of unknown location. Yes!!!!!

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