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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sick of Mike Papantonio BASHING Eric Holder
I don't know what the hell his problem is but I've heard this guy on for the pass two weeks going after Holder on the voter ID laws in the country.Mike is accusing Eric Holder of not having the heart and spine to go after the states that pasted all these voter ID laws.Mike seems to have it in for Eric Holder he talks bad about Holder as if he's a rethug
FLAprogressive
(6,771 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)broke the world economy through intentional fraud.
Some of those pot heads might eat all the chips in their parents house, forcing their mothers to make an extra trip to the grocery store.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Or is your beef simply that pointing out Holder's inaction of voter suppression makes the party look bad in an election year?
If that last one is your point, a good counter argument could be made that the administration's inaction on issues like this could contribute to apathy among some of the Democratic Party base, which could make this election closer than it should be.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Because a caller called in his show also accusing of Holder not doing nothing.Madison is a very good friend of Eric Holder and he said he talked to Holder and the Justice Department is going after these states Joe also said that they have to do this state by state and some of these states that passed these laws don't fall under the voting rights act and Madison also let his listeners know just because the media hasn't reported on it doesn't mean it's not happening.
BumRushDaShow
(128,895 posts)Seems DU has more vitriol against yet another black man (including the constant skewering of the President) than was dished out against Bushies like Gonzo and Ascroft.
Some here want to tell the enemy every step being made so they can feel comfortable.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Does that make me only half racist?
News flash: Black men are just as capable of being incompetent/corrupt/sell-outs as white men, and no one is going to hold their criticism because a True Believer lazily charges "racism."
You joined in 2008 so you know all about DU during the Bush years, right? Of course, you lurked!
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)I had the same criticisms of the old white guys who created many of the practices Holder now defends. I do not know what DU site you were on, but there was certainly tens, probably hundreds of thousands of posts critical of Ashcroft and Gonzalez from 2001-2008. I probably wrote a few hundred myself.
frylock
(34,825 posts)how the fuck would you know what vtriol was dished out against Bushies like Gonzo and Ascroft? there was plenty, so you can file your fucking race card back where you found it.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)lefty sources on the internet.
The buzz about it would energize the Democratic base and possibly even percolate up and force the MSM to notice--but it wouldn't have to do the latter to have a positive effect.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Holder is going after these states on voter ID laws Mike is full of shit he just doesn't like Holder
99Forever
(14,524 posts).. adds a ton of credibility to your position.
bigtree
(85,992 posts)fuck all that noise
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)I can't think of anything noteworthy that Holder has one since taking office.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)just because the media doen't talk about it doesn't mean he's not doing nothing
Laurian
(2,593 posts)the unmet priorities listed by hifiguy in response #15.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)"we can kill any American we want" part of the accomplishments.
It is pretty damned hard to be worse than BushCo, but Holder and his boss have managed.
Yeah, they did a few good things, but the evil they did/do far outweighs the good.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I can't even listen to Pap when Ed is out. It's an Obama-Holder bashfest all day long!
villager
(26,001 posts)n/t
Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)States that he spends too little time on Republicans trying to negate the will of the people that elect the man that gives Holder a job better than being lawyer to corporations as he was previous to his gig at the DOJ....
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to keep medical patients from receiving medicine than it is to prosecute real criminals. After all, his prosecution rate might suffer if he did real work, and he can't possibly have that happen.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Change his profession and do something other than be the lamest Attorney General in a LONG ASS time?
There wouldn't be complaints about him then. He should just go away. He's horrible.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)an effect just a few months from the election.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)He kicks this jackass to the curb. He looks like some sort of social climber that only prosecutes cases he can win to inflate his self-worth.
Holder SUCKS.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Major Wall $treet criminal fraudsters indicted - 0
Robosigning foreclosure schemes prosecuted - 0
War criminals prosecuted - 0
Voter suppression schemes stopped to date - 0
Medical MJ clinics busted - hundreds
Fatcs are facts.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Apparently, if you help a little old lady across the street every now and then, pick up litter, recycle, and keep a few minor promises, the fact that you condone murder, torture and fraud can be excused.
And apparently, anyone who objects to that ethical view point is racially motivated.
Who knew?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)of the DOJ.
He makes a mockery of justice by not prosecuting real criminals, and then busting people who had real need because they were somehow in his mind subverting the law. Holder is a horrible AG, probably one of the worst ones we've had in decades under a Democratic President.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)I suspect that Mr. Holder is aware of it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)It doesn't change the fact that Holder is about as effective as an umbrella in a hurricane, which is to say, not much at all.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Response to bigdarryl (Original post)
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Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)1) Claimed that a secret committee meeting to decide who can be assassinated meets the legal definition of "due process" as specified in the Constitution?
2) Who is leading the charge to shut down medical marijuana clinics?
3) Who failed to prosecute any real criminals on Wall Street?
4) Who has turned a blind eye to war crimes?
5) Who is okay with warrantless wiretaps?
6) Who until quite recently defended DOMA?
7) Who has been silent on police abuse of protester's civil rights?
8) Who believes in unlimited detention without charge?
9) Who constantly fights to keep evidence of torture secret?
That's just a start, give me some time and I can come up with many more reasons Holder is no friend to civil liberties, justice and the rule of law.
It is nice that he is on the correct side of the voting issue, but in most otehr matters Holder is a disgrace.
Casandia
(646 posts)Keep Holder's feet to the fire Pap!
Logical
(22,457 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Autumn
(45,062 posts)and his priorities.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Not the least of which is failure to prosecute Bush and Cheney for war crimes, and then he went on to prosecute elderly medical marijuana patients.
If there is a treatment that helps improve the quality of life for the elderly and the sick, I am completely against any action being taken.
I detest Holder for his attacks on MM clinics, and I don't even use it, because I have no reason to use it. He's the equivalent of banning antibiotics because they cure skin diseases, due to the fact that amputating surgeons would suffer a loss of income (like the 1800's) if the limb healed before they needed to cut it off.
I despise Holder and his lackadaisical hand toward law unless it was drug war BS. That is no reflection on Obama, unless he keeps that idiot around for a second term. Holder is an asshole, and never should have been part of President Obama's picks to begin with.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)like enforcing and giving a pass to worst criminals this nation has seen for decades because they're in the club.
So I guess we're just going to be unhappy for the time being.