We need a world wide ban on manufacturing of all weapons

[WDIM]

The manufacturing of weapons is what need to make illegal. It would not violate the Constitution. It would not violate human rights.

We need international treaties and UN enforcement of a complete ban on weapons of mass death.

If the world can make treaties to ban a plant that never harmed anyone then the world can definately ban tools of murder.

You never hear a world leader say we need to go after the manufactures of murder. No instead we pump trillions of dollars in the weapons industry every year and then wonder why there is so much death and destruction.

Until leaders of the world lead through non-violence there will never be peace.

Obama is the biggest hypocrit of them all asking for gun control while sending billions of dollars of guns and bullets to cause death and destruction in another country.

[Warpy]

1. Good luck.

It's the last thing the US still makes that other people still want.

[whatthehey]

48. This shit again. Here are the facts on our exports

All military added together doesn't come close to equalling, for example, Pharma OR cars OR medical equipment OR industrial machines OR fuel oil OR vehicle parts and that's just from a quick eyeball scan. Military exports aren't even close to 5% of our industrial exports (the data exclude our massive IP exports such as entertainment and consulting)

http://census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/product/enduse/exports/c0000.html

[GGJohn]

2. Yeah.

Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.

[linuxman]

3. Far out man.

[LanternWaste]

50. This may be your most substantial contribution to any discussion to date.

This may be your most substantial contribution to any discussion to date.

(The petulance of children is often best met by more petulance, regardless of how it may be rationalized as something else)

[linuxman]

51. You sure like to type.

If it were ever anything of consequence I might care.

You remind me of me back from when I was 14 and thought I was the only kid on the block with a thesaurus.

[The2ndWheel]

4. Can people still get that plant any time they want?

There are laws against a lot of things, and people still find a way to get and do everything that is illegal.

[WDIM]

5. Sure and people will still use weapons to kill

But we dont have to allow the manufacturing of weapons whose sole purpose is to murder.

No where is there a right to the manufacturing of machines of death. And banning the manufacturing of these murder machines would be the first realistic step to taking the tools away.

[GGJohn]

6. What about those of us that want to use firearms legitimately?

Hunting? Target shooting? etc..

[WDIM]

8. Hunt like a real man use a bow.

Human kind went thousands of years without using guns to hunt or target practice i think we'll be alright.

[MohRokTah]

11. A bow is a weapon and I thught you wanted all weapons to be banned. eom

[GGJohn]

12. I do hunt with a bow during bow season,

but I also like to hunt with my AR-10, what business is it of yours to decide what I may or may not use to provide my family and the needy with food?

[WDIM]

17. The same business as any law passed for the safety of all people. nt

[GGJohn]

19. No such law has been passed, nor will any such law ever be passed,

try starting with something feasible, not fantasy.

[WDIM]

25. Its the most feasible

As long as the murder machines are allowed to be made they will be used.

[GGJohn]

26. Well, then, I can only conclude that you're not serious about gun control,

or you're living in some kind of fantasy land.

[WDIM]

31. There is no serious gun control until we stop building the guns. nt

[hobbit709]

7. The reason homo sapiens invented tools was because he didn't have big claws or teeth.

[WDIM]

9. And now that we have killed all the predators besides

ourselves these tools have become adequated.

[hobbit709]

15. There's still quite a bit of the world where humans are considered lunch by the wildlife.

[GGJohn]

16. Really?

Tell that to all the coyotes and cougars around my neck of the woods.

[el_bryanto]

22. Coyotes and Cougars aren't good listeners. Do you you have any fluffy bunnies I could tell it to?

I'd do that.

Bryant

[GGJohn]

24. We have Jacks and Cottontails, will those do? eom.

[EX500rider]

56. So you think you'll get Russia & China & N Korea & Iran on board with this?

Or is the US just suppose to unilaterally disarm? And rely on.....prayer I guess? Good luck maybe?

[MohRokTah]

10. We actually need realistic proposals.

[WDIM]

13. If we are serious about gun control the first step

is to stop the manufacturing of weapons of mass murder. no other proposal is serious until that happens.

[MohRokTah]

14. Not gonna happen.

As I said, I'll listen when you have something realistic to propose.

[WDIM]

18. Then there are no realistic proposals.

If the world can't say enough. We will no longer build these weapons of mass death then there are no other realisitic proposals.

[MohRokTah]

20. Thanks for admitting you have no realistic proposals. eom

[WDIM]

21. Neither do you or anybody else.

This is the most rational realistic proposal to stop the manufacturing. But if that cant be done then nothing can be done we need to just accept gun violence and mass murder as a permanent part of human life.

War death destruction will never cease till we take their tools away.

We might as well start WW3 and get it over with.

[sarisataka]

23. One question...

how will the UN enforce this weapons manufacturing ban if, say NK or China says "no, we will keep making weapons"?

[Glassunion]

34. That will go unanswered

[Dr. Strange]

59. A campaign of sternly-worded letters.

Unless those are considered weapons too, in which case we're screwed.

[LiberalEsto]

27. But, but, but that contradicts the Law of the Profit

As in the Holy Weapons Manufacturers must rake in their Profits regardless of how much war, death and misery they wreak upon humanity.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. It Also Contradicts The Law of Common Sense

Prohibition doesn't work. It didn't with alcohol. It's not with drugs. And remember, with alcohol, the first thing they went after was the manufacturers and distributors to shut off the flow.

Along comes organized crime and then things were pretty much back to normal, except for the extra blood in the streets.

[WDIM]

30. It contradicts the law of common sense

To keep creating murder machines and expect them not to be used.

It contradicts the law of common sense to say you're against gun violence death and murder but pump trillions of dollars into the gun industry.

There is no other proposal out there that makes any sense then to stop the manufacture of tools whose sole purpose is to murder.

Its illegal to manufacture heroin because its dangerous and it kills people and it should be illegal to manufacture weapons who are dangerous and are meant to kill people.

Will people try to violate the law ofcourse but the penalty should be death. If you are building a machine built for murder you are the murderer and murderers should be put to death.

[Glassunion]

36. No, Professor made an excellent point.

If you make it illegal to manufacture something, it will continue to be manufactured. No matter how illegal you make it, like even super secret probation level of illegal, it will still be manufactured. Just like drugs, just like booze, someone will still make them. Period.

Except now it is being manufactured with zero regulation possibilities. The government can regulate businesses. Right now the gun industry does have many regulations to abide by. If you shut them down, and an illegal manufacturer opens up shop, you will never have the remote possibility of regulating that business. Period.

You're missing the point. You say it's illegal to manufacture heroin, correct? Then why is it that you can buy heroin from a completely unregulated illegal market?

Death penalty? Please...

[WDIM]

42. Then by your rationale we should just legalize heroin. nt

[Glassunion]

45. It's working quite well in Switzerland.

It's very regulated, and is having a rather positive effect.

[Codeine]

39. And heroin totally disappeared, right?

Oh wait; I could score some in all of about 15 minutes if I were so inclined.

[EX500rider]

57. "If you are building a machine built for murder....

......you are the murderer and murderers should be put to death."

So your solution to people being killed is to kill people? lol

[ProfessorGAC]

58. Not A Gun Owner

So you're preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, your plan is doomed to make things worse.

[Initech]

29. You're playing right into the hands of Infowars. This is exactly what they want.

They would be willing to start a war over this sort of thing, and it's the very thing that Alex Jones is preaching would happen. I'm willing to bet that militia in Oregon are followers of theirs.

[ileus]

32. Anything can be used as a weapon...

[Glassunion]

37. Indeed

[bigwillq]

33. No (nt)

[TeddyR]

35. In the US

Such a ban arguably violates the Second Amendment (and not sure how you ban production of a legal item). And the US will never get cooperation from countries that have companies that export a lot of firearms they make, like Belgium, Germany and the Czech Republic.

[WDIM]

41. It does not violate the second amendment

There is no right to manufacture weapons of mass murder.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

47. If something is protected the government cannot prohibit/inhibit the manufacture of that thing.

For example, you cannot tax printer's ink because it impedes the exercise of 1A rights.

[Logical]

38. You are as crazy as the NRA. Silly plan. Nt

[LittleBlue]

40. Then the country that made weapons would rule the world

That suggestion just doesn't work unless every country on earth is 100% trustworthy.

North Korea as hegemon? Nah. I'd rather the good guys keep the biggest weapons.

[Binkie The Clown]

43. Anyone with a halfway well-equipped workshop

can make guns in his garage. They aren't really all that high-tech.

[Lurks Often]

44. Seriously, what fantasy world are you living in?

Your proposal has zero chance of ever coming true.

[MosheFeingold]

46. I am sure Putin, Iran, and ISIS would comply n/t

[davidn3600]

49. People have been making weapons since the stone age

You will never stop it.

[steve2470]

52. sorry, this is flamebait nt

[Throd]

53. People will still stab each other with unicorn horns.

[deathrind]

54. That would be nice...

Make all the wanna be toughies go back to up close and personal with pointy objects if they really wanna try to hurt someone but not likely to happen without a catastrophic reset.

[jonno99]

55. What exactly is it that you want? To eliminate violence? Or to eliminate violence by guns? Or?

I think you'd make a better start by eliminating the MEAN PEOPLE. If you can't accomplish that, you're just kicking the can down the road...

[Odin2005]

60. As a hunter, good luck with that, LOL.

Nonsense like that is why a lot of sensible gun owners are easily scared by the NRA.