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http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/11/judge-gives-man-60-years-in-prison-for-driving-with-suspended-license/#
A petition to remove Judge Destry from the bench has been launched by the victims family.
They explain that Herbert Smith was sentenced to 60 years in prison for nothing more than a violation of probation due to a drivers license suspension charge.
The sentencing judge, Matthew Destry, presides over the Broward County Clerk of Courts.
Notice anything?
louis-t
(23,199 posts)60 years? Horrible. No sentencing guidelines?
ladjf
(17,320 posts)called for a Government expense of over $1,000,000.00. That's a lot of damage for driving with a suspended license.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)scroll down and read the comments. He was not given the sentence for a suspended license, but for breaking probation on several felonies including ones involving guns.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Calista241
(5,584 posts)His 60 year sentence comes from whatever crime he was on probation for.
That being said, 60 years seems like a long time for a non capital offense.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I can't seem to find what he was on probation for either.
Oh, I found this from when he was arrested
Charge 1
POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
http://arrest-mugshot-search.com/mugshot/FL/Main-Jail/2015-Oct-07/8876301/Herbert-Smith
Soooo maybe it wasn't 60 years for just driving on a suspended license.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)and extremely violent at that.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Now he is on probation for possessing a weapon.
It would be interesting to know what his initial crime was, but like you said it does not appear to be 60 years for driving on a suspended license.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)She said she found it searching the Broward County site. I can't do that now, so I didn't want to post it without first verifying.
longship
(40,416 posts)The question is:
What felony was he convicted of before he was convicted of being a convicted felon in possession of a weapon or ammo?
Convicted felons are also not supposed to have weapons. Like every felon should know they go back to prison for that.
But yes, 60 years does seem excessive especially if the original felony was a non-violent crime, e.g., drugs.
But not knowing the full circumstances, I am not willing to state that this guy should not be back in custody. 60 years? Less so sure.
What if he was a paroled murderer?
The article does not say what the original felony was.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)I thought Florida wanted everybody to have weapons? I thought the US Supremes gave that gift to the gun industry for a few well placed bribes? Huh, who knew Florida would actually pass a law stopping someone from getting guns and ammo?
He should be allowed to have weapons and ammo because ...you know... freedom.
longship
(40,416 posts)In all 50 states. Even Texas. Even Wyoming where they have fucking drive throughs at their bars!!!!
VROOM! VROOM! SKREEK!
Speaker next to bar window: May I have your order please?
Driver in car: You bet! I want a double bourbon on the rocks and a Bud.
Speaker: That will be 8 dollars and 50 cents. Please drive up to the next window.
VROOM!! Window opens.
Bartender: 8.50
Driver: Here's a ten. Keep it.
Bartender hands over a plastic cup and a can of Bud.
Pshhhht. Glug! Shlurp! VROOM! VROOOOOOOOM!
That's how one gets a drink at a bar in Wyoming.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Isn't there some loophole where felons can still get arms? Shezzzzz even terrorist on the no fly list can get arms. Why are we treating our American felons so badly?
longship
(40,416 posts)I think it is pretty much standard policy. But for sure paroled felons are not allowed weapons.
My best to you. And yes, I noted the sarcasm.
valerief
(53,235 posts)to institutional racism.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)If we go by the book, days would seem like years.
Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)He didn't get 60 years for the suspended license.
Iggo
(47,489 posts)Still...sixty years?
Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)If that's the previous charge, this guy sounds like a repeat offender.
Iggo
(47,489 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,856 posts)How long of a sentence do you give for fourth offense shoplifting? Life?
Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)That's my point. The previous charge which he is on probation for is "Possession of a weapon and ammunition by a felon." What did he do that made him a felon?
The original article is completely misleading and is meant to rile people up and it's based on a lie. He didn't get 60 years for driving with a suspended license.
Someone above posted some criminal history:
http://arrest-mugshot-search.com/mugshot/FL/Main-Jail/2015-Oct-07/8876301/Herbert-Smith
Previous arrests:
POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
Robbery
Burglary
Armed Burglary (multiple charges)
Grand Theft Auto
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)60 years seems like a lot, but he certainly was not sentenced for driving on a suspended license.
Thanks for posting this info; I had a feeling that there was more to the story.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)http://arrest-mugshot-search.com/mugshot/FL/Main-Jail/2015-Oct-07/8876301/Herbert-Smith
Previous arrests:
POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
Robbery
Burglary
Armed Burglary (multiple charges)
Grand Theft Auto
He had his probation revoked for those previous charges. He was given a chance, and he threw it away, over something stupid. It is a wonder he was even out on probation as it was, those are serious crimes.
I wonder how many will simply overlook the facts of this case, or just go on uninformed tirades about 60 years for suspended license?
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #19)
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Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)and see how it happened. It can add up or be enhanced. These kinds of things show more lack of respect for the law than the original charge, in that you had contact with the legal system and still won't go along with it.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)The only possible wobbler I see is the robbery charge...it could have been a misdemeanor.
Still...60 years and he got that hit for driving on a suspended driver's lic. Wow...you would think that robbery, burglary, multiple armed burglaries and GTA way over shadow a moving violation -- no injury, etc.
Waldorf
(654 posts)Yes.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)whathehell
(28,969 posts)The freaking judge needs to be removed.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)( white~) she just got a ticket.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)is she a convicted felon already on paper?
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)And did the judge revoke her probation, and then sentance her on those several felonies count, as well as a few other charges such as being in association with another known felon, and carrying ammunition, which was another violation of the plea deal?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Mendocino
(7,431 posts)for Judge Destry, Florida Man.
Omaha Steve
(99,073 posts)Bonx
(2,041 posts)It would be interesting to know what actually happened.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bonx
(2,041 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Google is your friend.
Bonx
(2,041 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)that you would probably consider crap.
Original change.org petition here.
https://www.change.org/p/howard-c-foreman-remove-judge-matthew-destry-from-the-bench-for-illegally-sentencing-people-of-color
uhnope
(6,419 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Then yes it should be attacked.
And now that further information is available you should edit your inaccurate original post. The guy wasn't sentenced just for driving with a suspended license.
We don't know all of the conditions of his previous crimes, but he's clearly not a choir boy. Being honest matters. The article wasn't honest
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Self delete? looks like this is based on a lie
see http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7397025
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)and the hangin' judge took the opportunity to throw the book at a black defendant.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Otherwise, you should self-delete because it's really just irresponsible and provocative
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Case in point: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027396004
uhnope
(6,419 posts)When people find out that the headline, text and petition are misleading, they might switch from sympathetic and supportive to angry and callous. You might lose people that you hoped to persuade. And next time those people might not listen to a cry for help because they've been burned before. That's not what you want, right?
That's why, if you're smart, you'll delete this.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)you have managed to get a lot of us to go
here are the issues that are relevant in this case.
1.- How should a parole violation be treated?
2.- Are there any minimum sentencing rules in play? Yes, from a cursory look at statues here you go
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/woofccj.pdf
3.- What are the roles of modern day prisons? Incapacitation or well corrections? If this is the former, the sentence makes all the sense in the world. If not, well perhaps not, and this is where mandatory sentencing enters the game, and you and I do not know what was the ORIGINAL sentence he was given a parole over. A violation means the person goes back to prison.
4.- Yes, there is an issue of race, but in this case given the history of this gentleman which has been exposed, most people on this board will discount the badly written and sourced story. It might be implicit, it might the fact that this guy is not quite a choir boy.
5.- All the potential discussions you could have had on criminal justice reform have given way to the expected reactions form people who quite honestly would prefer this perp to remain in prison for his natural life. See about incapacitation and how that is lagging actual reform.
If you want to have those discussions, which by all means are needed, do not pick up the cause given to you by a really bad news source that does not correct their stories even when people point out their errors... yes, I have pointed to them errors in some of their stories, since they have happened on MY FUCKING beat, and I know they misreported the facts of the story if I am to be kind. Lets just say that news source I consider it a source of comedy any more, and bad comedy at that.
And speaking about this conversation, back ti the texts on the California Department of Corrections and their adventures with the Federal Court. Now supreme court cases ARE reliable. Or on edit, 9th District Court.
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)for a robbery charge
tazkcmo
(7,286 posts)He did NOT get 60 years for driving without a license and you're willful ignorance and manufactured outrage is a direct assault to the very real, very true and very innocent PoC victims of ingrained, inbred and institutional racism that permeate our American society.
This young man has made some horrendous decisions in his life, been convicted of multiple felonies and has received more than one chance to save his own life. He blew it. Not the judge. Not the system.
Innocent, law abiding, productive American citizens are being beaten, shot, not hired and first fired everyday, hour and minute and you choose to make some stuff up. Pathetic.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Bonx
(2,041 posts)Or are you a rude person with no understanding of reasoned debate ?
Response to Bonx (Reply #114)
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gopiscrap
(23,674 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)This guy has multiple violent felonies. He was on parole. He knows he cannot have weapons, yet he did. He knows he is on parole subject to good behavior, yet he was also caught driving without a license .
This sentence is not about the latter. It is about the fact that this is a bad dude who is on parole with a history of multiple violent felonies who ignores his parole conditions. Weapon? Check. Drive without a license? Check.
Now one could argue against the 60 years, but I don't care if he's caucasian or black or whatever. I don't want this guy on the street.
So back to prison he goes. Correctly so.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Somehow I doubt that Destry is nearly as much of a hangin' judge when white defendants on gun charges are in his courtroom.
Bonx
(2,041 posts)I mean, look at this awesome thread you've cooked up. It proves it.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)From the change.org petition:
Bonx
(2,041 posts)if that made any sense whatsoever.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)I think you want to make fighters for social justice look bad. To make anti-racists look bad. & you're doing a good job.
longship
(40,416 posts)Just the fact that unlike some people who either cannot read or make a simple click through think, this guy was not sentenced to 60 years for merely driving on a suspended license.
He is quite a bad dude on parole, caught with a weapon, and driving with a suspended license.
So back he goes to prison. Pretty simple.
The 60 years in an entirely different matter.
Again, it is not for merely driving with a suspended license!
OP has a horribly misleading title.
Logical
(22,457 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)He is a paroled felon who violated his parole. So he's going back to prison. Done deal.
The only question is for how long. The judge says 60 years. I imagine this will be appealed, so it will up to the appeals court judge or judges.
And although I do not know the specifics beyond the fact that this guy has a very troubling rap sheet, I think 60 years is likely excessive and he should get it reduced on appeal.
Otherwise, this guy belongs back in prison for parole violation, if the facts I have read are correct.
It really is simple. That is how the system works. You break your parole; you go back to prison.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)It looks like there is a serious repeat offense issue occurring here, including weapons violations. Maybe there's racism involved, maybe not, but it seems pretty obvious that the original article/petition is meant to deceive the reader.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)For all I know this is just a ploy from his defense attorney to get his client a lighter sentence.
I have know more about this guy and his history before I buy into any of this.
Bonx
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SoapBox
(18,791 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)institutional racism
Waldorf
(654 posts)criminal and deserves the jail time.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Read the list of his crimes. And even when he was given a chance and got out on parole, he stole a gun, drove with a suspended license...he is a criminal, and not a very intelligent one either.
Vinca
(50,170 posts)Imagine what it would cost to keep this young man in prison for 60 years. The judge should be ordered to foot the bill if he's going to hand out stupid sentences like that. Surely this can be overturned. It's ridiculous.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this was a violation of parole.
That said, this brings in my mind the obvious question. If the goal of your legal system is to INCAPACITATE felons and always assume they are to no good, this sentence makes all the sense in the world. If your goal is to REHABILITATE prisoners and you believe that some good can be done and that they can be reinstated in society... then this is not a sentence that makes any sense whatsoever.
Now I will leave this to you to answer what is the goal of the legal system. Oh and the news source left significant elements off the story. Why I rarely rely on them for the color of the sky, let alone serious news stories.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Ted Bundy was stopped for a parking ticket but executed for being a serial killer.
This story is misleading and dishonest.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)You don't get sentenced to 60 years for driving with a suspended license. But if you violate probation, you tend to get all of the years for other crimes you committed thrown back at you.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)tclambert
(11,080 posts)inflicted. -- The eighth amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America
I can recite that from memory when I want to show off. I keep forgetting the part where it says, "Except for black people," though.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Take it to the bank
shanti
(21,672 posts)every time.
Paper Roses
(7,468 posts)I remember an incident years ago when a woman in Texas was jailed for stealing a few cans of baby food. We, as a nation, are sick!!!
This should not stand!
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Bonx
(2,041 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)CHARGE(S) INFORMATION
Charge Number: 1
Case Number:
Statute: 790.23-1a
Description: POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
Charge Comment:
Charge Status: NO INFO
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: NO INFORMATION
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 2
Case Number:
Statute: 322.34-2a
Description: DRIVE WHILE LICENSE SUSPENDED - FIRST OFFENSE
Charge Comment:
Charge Status: N/C
Bond Type: NC
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition:
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 3
Case Number:
Statute: 316.2953
Description: SIDE WIND/REST SUNSCREEN
Charge Comment:
Charge Status: N/A
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition:
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 4
Case Number:
Statute: 316.2953
Description: SIDE WIND/REST SUNSCREEN
Charge Comment:
Charge Status: N/A
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition:
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 5
Case Number:
Statute: 316.2952(2)(B)
Description: IMP SUNSCRN AT TOP OF WNDSHLD
Charge Comment:
Charge Status: N/A
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition:
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 6
Case Number: 11007659CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-ROBB. NO GUN/DDLY WPN
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 7
Case Number: 12008353CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-BURG/DWELL/OCCUP.CONVEY; GRAND THEFT; FACILITATE BURGLARY
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 8
Case Number: 12009067CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-GRAND THEFT FIREARM; BURGLARY ARMED W/ EXP OR WEAPON
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 9
Case Number: 12011969CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-FACILITATE BURGLARY; GRAND THEFT FIREARM; GRAND THEFT
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 10
Case Number: 12011970CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-FACILITATE BURGLARY; BURG/DWELL/OCCUP.CONVEY
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 11
Case Number: 12012284CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: VOP-FACILITATE BURGLARY; GRAND THEFT ; BURG/DWELL/OCCUP.CONVEY
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
Charge Number: 12
Case Number: 11006119CF10A
Statute: 948.06
Description: PROBATION VIOLATION OR COMMUNITY CONTROL/FEL/MISD
Charge Comment: GRAND THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE
Charge Status: SENTENCED STATE
Bond Type: NA
Bond Amount: 0.00
Disposition: STATE SENTENCED
Projected Sent. End Date*:
http://arrest-mugshot-search.com/mugshot/FL/Main-Jail/2015-Oct-07/8876301/Herbert-Smith
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Shame on you
Need I the
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)It's not like cops have some high-tech scanner that beeps when it's near a suspended license. Nope, probably a routine DWB.
Bonx
(2,041 posts)with no evidence.
That seems like something a rotten person would do.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)A lot of them are racists, too.
Bonx
(2,041 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bonx
(2,041 posts)they thought they heard that someone was acting like a racist.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)and doesn't care if it's all based on a lie.
melman
(7,681 posts)thread after thread after thread.
Heeeeers Johnny
(423 posts)Automatic License Plate Reader/Recognition cameras can return all sorts of data regarding a vehicle and or
the owner of the vehicle...
Mobile ANPR use is widespread among US law enforcement agencies at the city, county, state and federal level. According to a 2012 report by the Police Executive Research Forum, approximately 71% of all US police departments use some form of ANPR.[33] Mobile ANPR is becoming a significant component of municipal predictive policing strategies and intelligence gathering,[34] as well as for recovery of stolen vehicles, identification of wanted felons, and revenue collection from individuals who are delinquent on city or state taxes or fines, or monitoring for "Amber Alerts". Successfully recognized plates may be matched against databases including "wanted person", "protection order", missing person, gang member, known and suspected terrorist, supervised release, immigration violator, and National Sex Offender lists.[35] In addition to the real-time processing of license plate numbers, ALPR systems in the US collect (and can indefinitely store) data from each license plate capture. Images, dates, times and GPS coordinates can be stockpiled and can help place a suspect at a scene, aid in witness identification, pattern recognition or the tracking of individuals.
An early, private sector mobile ANPR application has been applications for vehicle repossession and recovery[36]), although the application of ANPR by private companies to collect information from privately owned vehicles or collected from private property (for example, driveways) has become an issue of sensitivity and public debate.[37] Other ALPR uses include parking enforcement, and revenue collection from individuals who are delinquent on city or state taxes or fines. The technology is often featured in the reality TV show Parking Wars featured on A&E Network. In the show, tow truck drivers and booting teams use the ALPR to find delinquent vehicles with high amounts of unpaid parking fines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_plate_recognition#United_States
I have no idea if that's what happened in this case, but the point is that all it takes is a second or two for a
cop to see any pending warrants, infractions, suspensions, non-payment, etc.
Some scary stuff for anyone, criminal or not.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Heeeeers Johnny
(423 posts)My main point didn't focus on the person arrested, rather I pointed out that yes, the
technology and scanners do exist that can discern if there are any legal/illegal issues
regarding the vehicle and or registered owner.
The usefulness of the technology goes way beyond "expired plates".
Depending on the particular software in use by an agency, any 'hit' detected by the scanners
can return any number of variables regarding the vehicle and/or the registered owner, everything
from outstanding warrants, unpaid traffic fines/parking tickets, no insurance, no license/suspended
license, expired safety inspection, etc.
bluedigger
(17,077 posts)"IMP SUNSCRN AT TOP OF WNDSHLD " and "SIDE WIND/REST SUNSCREEN". His windows were probably tinted too dark.
xocet
(3,870 posts)n/t
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Not Zimmermann, for instance. Oh, right. He's not black.
xocet
(3,870 posts)that does seem excessive or they won't. As it is, the story is easy to dismiss, because readers of the OP may feel that they have been lied to.
It seems that you swallowed the original story hook, line and sinker.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)That's what.
xocet
(3,870 posts)Waldorf
(654 posts)Previous arrests:
POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
Robbery
Burglary
Armed Burglary (multiple charges)
Grand Theft Auto
uhnope
(6,419 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Letting him loose just gives him more opportunities to terrorize his community even further. Also do we know if that time is concurrent or consecutive? Because someone claimed that it's actually 15 years per felony and he's serving them concurrently, meaning he has 15 years or parole, whichever comes sooner.
This is a classic case of deception by a family who raised an absolutely menace to their community. Don't fall for it.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)09/14/2009 - Operating W/O Valid License
09/14/2009 - Fail To Stop Steady Red Signal
04/28/2011 - Trespass Structure/Conveyance
05/03/2011 - Crimin Mischief Damage $1000+
05/03/2011 - Robbery / No Weapon
07/12/2011 - Susp Drivers Lic 1st Offense
08/25/2011 - Resist/Obstruct W/O Violence
04/12/2012 - Burglary Conveyance Armed
04/12/2012 - Grand Theft Firearm
04/12/2012 - Burglary Conveyance Unoccup
12/31/2014 - Fail Wear Safety Belt/Operator
12/31/2014 - Improper Parking Two Way Road
12/31/2014 - Robbery / No Weapon rearrest probation violation
07/11/2015 - Speed Posted Municip/State Rd-Driver
07/11/2015 - Disobey/Ran Stop Sign
07/21/2015 - Careless Driving
08/08/2015 - Fail to Obey Traffic Sign
10/07/2015 - Susp Drivers Lic 1st Offense
10/07/2015 - Poss Wep Conv Felon
10/07/2015 - Side Wind/Rest Sunscreen
10/07/2015 - Side Wind/Rest Sunscreen
10/07/2015 - Imp Sunscrn At Top Of Wndshld
10/08/2015 - Robbery / No Weapon rearrest probation violation
Ace Rothstein
(3,109 posts)If it is the same guy, he deserves a lengthy sentence. Maybe not 60 years but 20-25 years.
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)keeps pulling stunts
november3rd
(1,113 posts)Just sayin'.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)No, he does not.
Howard Forman is the Clerk of Courts for Broward County. This is an elective office mandated by the Florida Constitution which is independent of the judiciary.
But who cares about facts as long as you can write a biased article which omits important facts in order to get people riled up?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Judge Destry is a circuit criminal judge.
http://www.17th.flcourts.org/index.php/judges/circuit-criminal
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)He isn't even the Administrative Judge for the circuit.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Does that somehow justify the 60-year sentence?
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)in the ground.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Another judge had presumably granted him probation, as opposed to sentencing him to 60 years.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Wish I had looked at your post directly above mine before I posted and then tried to find the pending charges.
That can be a serious charge...but given the fact that he got probation, seems like there had to have been some mitigating factors with the original judge that the current judge did not consider.
IMO, the sentencing should be appealed. IMO, and abuse of discretion. Wow, probation for a weapons charge and 60 years for driving with a suspended license!
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)With a POV, some times the prison time is reinstated and the defendant is not only incarcerated on the original sentence, but has added time for the violation. However, I am having a problem with a 60 year sentence hanging over a guy this young who is on probation for a crime that warrants a sentence of this length...does not compute. Seems to me there is something wrong here.
JMHO
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)http://arrest-mugshot-search.com/mugshot/FL/Main-Jail/2015-Oct-07/8876301/Herbert-Smith
Previous arrests:
POSS OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON
Robbery
Burglary
Armed Burglary (multiple charges)
Grand Theft Auto
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)However, I still cannot see the 60 years. Something does not compute with this.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)Racist scumbag
Waldorf
(654 posts)firearm, grand theft auto, possession of a firearm and ammo while a felon, repeat parole violations, and it appears this latest parole violation is the final straw that broke the camels back. Good riddance I say.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)was convicted of armed robbery? In context, sixty years seems like a light sentence for what he originally did.
Township75
(3,535 posts)We can only hope he won't be the last!