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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:32 PM May 2012

If you happen to fall out of an airplane

If you happen to fall out of an airplane a half mile up without a parachute you're in trouble, but in a slightly better situation than if you fell out a twenty story window.

Yes, you will probably die, but people do sometimes survive falling out of planes.

Because of air resistance, a person falling from a tall building or from a plane will be going the same speed when they hit the ground. The terminal velocity of a human being is only about 125 MPH, and you can slow that some by being as non-aerodynamic as possible. Arms and legs out. Hold your shirt or jacket like the "wing" membranes of a flying squirrel.

You'll have a surprisingly long time to think about it. Try to steer yourself toward a hay stack or plowed field or giant marshmallow, if available. (Falling from a skyscraper means you're probably headed for concrete and have less time to control what little you can control.)

Water is not a good idea because 1) water is less compressible than, say, hay or marshmallows (that's why depth charges work so well), and 2) even if you get down to 90 MPH you are still going to be knocked out wherever you land so water isn't the best spot.

Now here's the nasty part... I don't know if I could do this, but it's the correct advice. Before you hit, lock your legs and land feet first. Much like "crumple zones" in cars, breaking your legs absorbs a surprising amount of energy, and steers that energy away from your spine. Ewwww. I would probably not do it, but that's what hang-gliders are taught to do if their wings fold up.

Granted, you are very, very likely to die and almost certain to suffer some serious injuries falling from a plane... but if you happen to be one of the fluke survivors you'll certainly have a story to tell.

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If you happen to fall out of an airplane (Original Post) cthulu2016 May 2012 OP
Thanks! I'm going to copy these tips into my phone... htuttle May 2012 #1
Oh sure. Where were these instructions 40 years ago when I needed them? Scuba May 2012 #2
So then, I should aim for the field of marshmallows hlthe2b May 2012 #3
When you're pretty sure you're gonna die lunatica May 2012 #4
Legs locked blaze May 2012 #5
I figure, if I'm falling out of a plane about a mile up ... zbdent May 2012 #6
No good for me---I'd pass out from utter fear in one second. virgogal May 2012 #7
"giant marshmallow, if available." Broderick May 2012 #8
What brings this to mind, cthulu? (nt) enough May 2012 #9
Holiday weekend. A lot of folks will be flying. cthulu2016 May 2012 #10
The falling part is easy, as I understand it jberryhill May 2012 #11
or look for the nearest sky diver, and hitch a ride like in the Bond movies quinnox May 2012 #12
Like this 80 year old did Broderick May 2012 #13
Holy, holy shit. That poor woman. I'm surprised she didn't have a heart attack on the way down. I Nay May 2012 #27
I'm still working on my surviving a free falling elevator theory Brother Buzz May 2012 #14
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Physics! FSogol May 2012 #15
Don't listen to Cecil. When you ride in an elevator... pinboy3niner May 2012 #16
I think so... cthulu2016 May 2012 #18
Problem with that IDemo May 2012 #20
An experienced body glider could handle this easily... immoderate May 2012 #17
How weird johnnie May 2012 #19
I will keep these tips in mind and hope I never have occasion to use them. RebelOne May 2012 #21
Or you can do what Travis did... Pilotguy May 2012 #22
I've thought about this before... and have actually devised a plan of action I think I could survive cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #23
Yep. Steer myself towards a haystack. I'll remember that. (nt) Nye Bevan May 2012 #24
During WWII, a gunner fell out of the bomber he was in, Dash87 May 2012 #25
So a plowed field is a softer landing than say...an unplowed field. flvegan May 2012 #26

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. Thanks! I'm going to copy these tips into my phone...
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:35 PM
May 2012

...just in case I have to look it up in a hurry someday.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
6. I figure, if I'm falling out of a plane about a mile up ...
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:42 PM
May 2012

I might as well enjoy the short flight, and go head first.

Less likely to have to recover in lots and lots of pain ...

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
8. "giant marshmallow, if available."
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:46 PM
May 2012

I really recommend a vat or swimming pool full of jello. Marshmallow is quite sticky to be honest, and you will create heat and friction when you make the plunge. Jello however, is something that isn't quite as sticky and perhaps a bit drinkable and edible at the same time once you make contact. In that case, if hungry, I recommend that you seek a sugar free pool of jello. I do care about the long term effects on teeth and health by consuming too much sugar.

Oh, and hold your nose. Jello up the nose is like jello out the nose laughing. Not a fun or pretty picture.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. The falling part is easy, as I understand it
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

Falling out of a plane is pretty harmless.

It's the hitting the ground part which causes problems.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
27. Holy, holy shit. That poor woman. I'm surprised she didn't have a heart attack on the way down. I
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:01 PM
May 2012

would have. And the skydiver himself must have been utterly terrified that he almost killed somebody. Whew. My 70-yr-old friend wants to do this tandem skydiving thing with me, but I think I'll skip it....

Brother Buzz

(36,356 posts)
14. I'm still working on my surviving a free falling elevator theory
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:12 PM
May 2012

Say you were in an elevator, in a free fall. Assuming you have the presence of mind in this situation, and assuming you get the timing right and jump so that you are up in the air when the elevator hits bottom, would you be hurt as much as if you hadn't jumped?

FSogol

(45,425 posts)
15. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Physics!
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

Ceil Adams answered it best:

"Dear Cecil:

Being a frequent traveler in elevators, I have had occasion to ponder various unpleasant scenarios, such as being trapped inside with a car plunging me to almost certain death many floors below. I have always wondered, however, whether I might be able to save myself in such a predicament by jumping into the air at the moment of impact, thus offsetting the force of gravity. Would it work? I await your supreme knowledge.

— B.J., Los Angeles

Cecil replies:

Sorry, kiddo. The only thing you can do if you get stuck in a falling elevator is tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse good-bye. It's a simple matter of physics. Let's say, for purposes of illustration, that your falling elevator reaches a terminal velocity of 100 feet per second. Even if you manage a leap of Nureyevian proportions, you'll only reach a speed of maybe 5-10 feet per second. (For purposes of comparison, a sprinter doing 40 yards in five seconds is moving at 24 feet per second--horizontally, of course, and with room to work up a little velocity.) That leaves you with a net downward velocity of 90-95 feet per second. In short, Pancake City."

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. Don't listen to Cecil. When you ride in an elevator...
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:22 PM
May 2012

...always remember to bring a giant marshmallow with you.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
18. I think so...
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

Let's see... you are falling at, say 60 MPH. Whenever the bottom of the elevator stops moving you will hit it at 60 MPH.

Right before it hits you jump.

Okay, when you jump you are now only going 50mph relative to the ground... but you have added kinetic energy. Do you have to pay for that on the way down?

If the elevator was coming up at you at 60MPH then jumping up before it hit would soften the blow. Does it work the same on the way down? Because in that case the levator is stopped when you hit it.

Hmm... is it better for your head to hit the dashboard of a car from 6 inches away at 60mph or from three feet away? Is there a difference.

I dunno. Hopefuly someone will weigh in.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
20. Problem with that
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:49 PM
May 2012

In a free fall, you and the elevator are moving downward at the same rate, making you essentially weightless. Unless you're wearing special velcro shoes for your elevator ride, the instant you bend your knees to prepare for the jump, your feet will lose any pressure against the floor needed to propel yourself upward. But even if you began the fall in a crouching position, any true free fall would have you and the elevator moving too fast after only a few seconds for even an Olympic high jumper to make a noticeable difference in the impact speed.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
17. An experienced body glider could handle this easily...
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:25 PM
May 2012

Arch your back, bend your knees, wear thick rubber soles.

--imm

johnnie

(23,616 posts)
19. How weird
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

I'm currently falling out of a plane and had to read DU one last time just to open it on my phone and see this thread. Thanks, I'll let ya know how it wo..



On edit: IPhone still works, legs hurt like hell

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
21. I will keep these tips in mind and hope I never have occasion to use them.
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:53 PM
May 2012

I have made 6 jumps from planes but always had a parachute handy.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
23. I've thought about this before... and have actually devised a plan of action I think I could survive
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:06 PM
May 2012

Ski jumpers "fly" through the air in a path they can control to some extent.

If I can "fly" like a ski jumper, I can hit the ground after falling a long distance at a shallow angle rather than a straight down SPLAT.

Let's say you can engineer a situation where you hit the ground at a 15 degree angle going 120 mph rather than hitting the ground going 120 at a NINETY degree angle. One might be survivable, the other? Um...

Joke

What's the difference between a bad GOLFER and a bad SKYDIVER?

A bad GOLFER sounds like this: WHACK... FUCK

A bad SKYDIVER sounds like this: FUCK!... WHACK.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
25. During WWII, a gunner fell out of the bomber he was in,
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:24 PM
May 2012

and fell into a snowbank, only breaking his legs and living to tell the tale.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
26. So a plowed field is a softer landing than say...an unplowed field.
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:31 PM
May 2012

If you fall out of a plane, you're fucked. A dude in a flying squirrel suit recently jumped from a chopper into like, an acre of cardboard boxes and the world gasped.

Giant marshmallow. Yes. That. I'd rather use my Spidey webslingers and at the last instant shoot a web at a nice tall crane and stop short a few feet from the ground. The YouTube video would get many hits, and I'd be an instant sensation.

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