Ok here's one, what do you think would really happen..

[zzaapp]

If the second ammendment where ever to be repealed? Social ramifications, crime rates, etc.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

1. they would fail in their attempt...

pretty simple. oh, and if it was a first term, it would probably be their last.

sP

[zzaapp]

2. I agree, would have to be a second term thing..but

Maybe I didn't frame the question correctly. I was curious as to what would be the social results, crime statistics, murder rate, etc. I'm going to try to change the subjest line on my first post.

[GreenStormCloud]

3. The attempt would fail to be ratified.

It takes only 13 states to block any constitutional amendment.

[zzaapp]

4. Thanks Green, I just updated my thread topic to be more specific.

[CJCRANE]

5. This...

BUNRAKU - A cowboy in a world without guns...

[zzaapp]

6. %$%^ ing Classic. lol

[Warpy]

7. There would be a big black market in guns

and maybe the people who have them and don't want to give them up would secure them a little better.

The only way to make any sort of a difference would be to force gun manufacturers to change the calibers of new guns so that different ammo would have to be purchased and license only police and military to purchase it. While there would be a black market in illegal, home chemistry ammo for the old guns, the price would make it prohibitive for the casual use of firearms. There might be fewer nitwit teenagers taking potshots at each other from car to car on the next street over.

Murder rates would decline only slightly as murderers simply chose a different weapon, one that makes it more difficult to kill someone than gun does.

People who live outside town here in the southwest would have to leave their homes and move to town without a way to protect themselves and their property against bears, cougars and coyotes.

Trying to ban guns at this point would be just about as effective as banning drugs has been.

[GreenStormCloud]

8. Higher crime rates.

Criminals would still have guns and ammunition. It doesn't take much ammo to hold up a bank or a C-store, or settle a drug trade business dispute. It does take a good bit of ammo for a law-abiding person to remain proficient with their guns.

Law abiding people rarely use their guns illegally. In 2009 in Texas of the 402,000 people with concealed handgun licenses there was only one (1) conviction for murder, vs over 600 conviction for murder from the general population. However there were 52 cases of justifiable homicide (killing of a felon in self-defense) by a private citizen. (This does not take into account the greater number of felons who were just wounded.) Since in those 52 cases the shooter was in legitimate fear of their life then it is obvious that CHL holders are saving many more innocent lives than they are killing. Without guns for self-defense many of those innocent lives would be lost, but more felons would live.

Gun laws have been easing up since the mid-1980s with the greatest increase beginning in the mid-1990s. Crime has been dropping dramatically every year since the mid-90s.

[ZombieHorde]

9. The other parts of the Bill of Rights would be threatened.

Black market gun sales would dramatically increase, and there would probably be some intense gang wars. I would not be surprised to see white supremest groups benefit from this.

Some prey animals, such as deer, would increase in population.

Hunting states, like Montana, would have their economies suffer a fair amount.