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PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)than they are now. Since in most areas nothing on the posted list of car requirements applies
to cars used solely on private property.
packman
(16,296 posts)we'd have no guns - damned if I'd want to get an ultrasound probe shoved up a body cavity. Or see a doctor, or go through a waiting period, or view a video of victims of gunshot killings or, etc., etc.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)When was the last time you had to have a background check to purchase a car?
Orrex
(63,191 posts)And one friend of mine was denied a car purchase due to bad credit, while another acquaintance was denied due to a suspended license due to drunk driving.
What was your point again?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Anyone with sufficient $$ can buy a car- whether they can get a license to drive it
on public roads is another question entirely
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I said they're already regulated.
And if someone tries to buy a firearm from an FFL dealer and fails, that person can be prosecuted by the Feds, can you say the same thing about your friends?
Orrex
(63,191 posts)However, given the fact that you bristled at the suggestion that they should be regulated to the same minimal level to which cars are regulated, you certainly seem resistant to additional, reasonable regulation of guns guns guns.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)which driving a vehicle on public roads is.
And I'm open to additional, reasonable regulations, but the proof is in the pudding, your definition of reasonable may be far different from mine.
And I didn't bristle at the suggestion, I stated a fact.
Orrex
(63,191 posts)How many murders and suicides are committed with vehicles as the weapon? How many mass runnings-over do we see yearly? Your complaint is foolish.
Guns, regardless of quaint and outmoded dogma, should certainly be subjected to tighter restriction than cars.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Americans each year do they?
I want to see the UBC bill passed and signed into law, I would be open to a national FOID card, I want the ATF better funded and to start going after straw buyers and those that fail a background check.
I want the WOD to be ended and the money used to fund better mental health care, which would significantly reduce the instances of suicides with a gun.
What I won't support is registration, not because I believe the govt will come after my firearms, I just don't believe the govt has any business knowing what firearms I own. BTW, the ACLU also opposes registration on 4th Amendment grounds.
AWB and mag limits are feel good, do nothing laws that I won't support either.
Any others, I would have to see the details before I make up my mind on whether or not to support them.
Orrex
(63,191 posts)It is untenable to compare all vehicle-related deaths to only gun deaths caused by murder/suicide.
We can certainly discuss accidental vehicular death vs. accidental gun deaths, as long as you're willing to acknowlege that vehicle use overwhelmingly outnumbers gun use.
And we should only discuss that comparison if you're willing to discuss vehiclular homicide/suicide versus gun homicide/ murder.
Further, private citizens can't drive cars on sidewalks or in bars or in schools or in offices or in churches or in libraries or at sporting events. Are you willing to subject firearms to similarly restrictive limitations?
For the record, I disagree with the ACLU's stance on gun registration.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,831 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)In AZ, if our insurance lapses for even 1 minute, the Ins. company notifies DMV who then suspends the vehicle's registration.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Cars have no such blanket 'tag and title at each point of sale' standard nationwide.
No drivers training is required to own a car.
No written test is required to own a car.
No practical test is required to own a car.
No health requirements where car ownership is concerned.
No liability insurance is required to own a car.
No renewals or inspections are required to own a car on a national basis, and even where states are concerned, only a few have such stupid requirements.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It is so wrong it is funny
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)with a license from one state. Good idea. National carry reciprocity needs to happen.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)I don't think the controllers have thought their meme all the way through...
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)That is the primary difference between gun ownership and almost anything else. Reasonable regulation is allowed, but anything too burdensome can be considered unconstitutional.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)To be honest, zero fucks given if the guy I sold it to thought you were supposed to drive on the left side of the road-
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That'd work ok for guns. Taxes could go to support police, EMTs, and ERs, and gun abstinance education.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)
hack89
(39,171 posts)sign me up.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I signed the title, he gave me the keys.
If it was a gun we would have to go to an FFL for the sale.
If you want the same regulation for both, are you saying the FFL should not be required?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)What they are saying
They will continue to come up with every reason under the sun why guns and regulations should not be touched, and the deaths will continue.
If this is the way they like it, they can own it. The blood is on their hands.
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)If we continue to try to solve this rash of mass killings (which is occurring despite an overall reduction in gun crime) by gun control. More gun control will do NOTHING to stop or even slow this down.
Actually, one form of gun control would prevent more mass *shooting*(a mass killings would still be possible with a bomb or other means) would be a total ban, and 100 percent confiscation. Requiring amending the constitution and implementing a police state.. ie will not ever happen.
I believe these mass kill perps are a certain personality type (not necissarily mentally il) and are motivated partly by media attention and a desire to be "famous", and partly by feeling "wronged" by society. Curtailing all the media glory put on the perps and their evil deeds would do much much more good than another waiting period.
We need other ideas that don't involve gun control.
ileus
(15,396 posts)
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)They wouldn't jam?
I've got full coverage on my arsenal in case something tragic happens like the bluing wears off.
someone should do "if voting were regulated as cars". Scratch that, I don't want to give anyone ideas cos they might just start taking the repub position on voting.
shanti
(21,675 posts)Aren't they both? 
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)our homes should be.
Congress shall make no law.
A gun should be tracked from manufacturer to dealer to owner and to any resale owner. Whoever is in possession is liable for whatever harm it causes unless they've reported it as stolen. It's the only way to stop the underground gun market in this country. They remind us that bad guys will never subject themselves to a background check. Fine. As a backup, keep tabs on every gun in this country. Resistant gun owners are living in a fantasy land where they are never the victim. You can't be sure. No one is safe in this country anymore. I listened to Trump blabbering on yesterday about the need for more guns. He's got himself surrounded by an impressive security detail and probably pays a fortune for people to keep him safe. He's not. It takes a split second and his security people will be looking at rooftops trying to decide where the shot came from.
