Mon May 21, 2012, 08:35 PM

So tell me, ...what did this guy do to deserve it?

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I'm sure there's an appologist or two out there willing to defend the beating and arrests of journalists...

CHICAGO, IL - MAY 20: Getty Images photographer Scott Olson is seen with blood on his head after being hit by a baton by Chicago police
during a protest near the Nato conference venue on the first day of the Nato summit on May 20, 2012 in Chicago, Illinois.

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So tell me, ...what did this guy do to deserve it? (Original post)	Earth_First	May 2012	OP
Remember when we were kids and told "Policemen were your friends." I don't recognize much of this	monmouth	May 2012	#1
I was told the same. In fact, most of the cops where I grew up were	RKP5637	May 2012	#11
feels like a political convention once	roguevalley	May 2012	#14
Who is he? I mean, I'm all for detail-free posting in the Lounge, but in	msanthrope	May 2012	#2
Look, it's a guy with a blood head!	randome	May 2012	#6
Do you have any other information?	MineralMan	May 2012	#3
Is he under arrest?	dems_rightnow	May 2012	#4
Are you kidding me?	ithinkmyliverhurts	May 2012	#5
Lucky he's not in jail, well I assume he's not. They've been throwing journalists in jail	sabrina 1	May 2012	#7
Yes, can someone explain this photo?	zappaman	May 2012	#8
No context.	GeorgeGist	May 2012	#9
The context of this particular image may not be equally as important as the fact...	Earth_First	May 2012	#10
The picture is of Getty Images photographer Scott Olson	Art_from_Ark	May 2012	#12
Thank you, Art...	Earth_First	May 2012	#13
See below, he is a photo journalist who works for Getty images.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#15
Doesn't look any worse than Zimmerman's. A scratch, really.	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#16
Well, Zimmerman killed a man, so he deserved a few 'scratches'. The question was, what did this	sabrina 1	May 2012	#17
He doesn't look beaten to me	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#18
He's a photo journalist. He wasn't exactly in a war zone, although he sure likes like he was.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#24
It kills me that so many here are willing to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, first...	Earth_First	May 2012	#26
Lol, I know. There is simply no logic to it considering the past seven months of evidence that	sabrina 1	May 2012	#30
It is positively disgusting and pathetic. - n/t	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#40
The loyal apologists for the police are here in force on DU	Bake	May 2012	#88
a journalist carrying a camera, what more do you need?	CTyankee	May 2012	#31
This is how a police state maintains its power	Generic Other	May 2012	#80
I don't know what he did. Do you?	boppers	May 2012	#20
I don't know yet, but the video will be available soon. I do remember so many instances like this	sabrina 1	May 2012	#23
So many are so quick to take defense of law enforcement? Why?	Earth_First	May 2012	#25
How many were arrested, detained, or beaten in each of the last 20 years?	boppers	May 2012	#29
Do you have an instances of that scenario you just conjured up happening at any of these	sabrina 1	May 2012	#36
Well, how does it compare to other years?	boppers	May 2012	#41
I don't know, maybe the phony War on Drugs or the detention of Muslims suspected of being terrorists	sabrina 1	May 2012	#42
Give me numbers, not rhetoric.	boppers	May 2012	#47
Josh Sterns has been documenting arrests of journalists since September...	Earth_First	May 2012	#44
...and there is also "Photography Is Not A Crime" -ran by a DUer who doesn't post very often	Earth_First	May 2012	#45
Compared to what?	boppers	May 2012	#49
When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year...	Earth_First	May 2012	#50
I have never heard of it.	boppers	May 2012	#56
One journalist arrested and detained	sabrina 1	May 2012	#68
Journalists who rape children should be arrested and detained, to point to the obvious.	boppers	May 2012	#74
Report: Press freedom holds steady worldwide	sabrina 1	May 2012	#83
"Sunlight is the best disinfectant"	Bake	May 2012	#90
When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year...	Earth_First	May 2012	#51
None, of course. Is there some legitimate number of inappropriately beaten-up innocents?	WriteWrong	May 2012	#158
Sure. They get their day in court, and their lawsuits.	boppers	May 2012	#160
So how does that compare with the number of banksters arrested since September?	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#52
So, how many instances of these molotov cocktail throwing "fake journalists" can you point to? nt	Guy Whitey Corngood	May 2012	#65
Hm, at OccupyPortland's last stand, I counted 10 who were armed for combat and journalism.	boppers	May 2012	#71
You're right.	Guy Whitey Corngood	May 2012	#75
Just like everybody who carries a camera and claims to be a "journalist".	boppers	May 2012	#78
What is this? "I know you are but what am I?" You're	Guy Whitey Corngood	May 2012	#82
It's his typical approach.	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#106
You're pretty fascinated by video evidence.	boppers	May 2012	#28
Multiple cameras produce evidence from many different angles, that is why so far, no one has	sabrina 1	May 2012	#33
It's also why some protesters get arrested, and convicted, for their actions.	boppers	May 2012	#35
No protesters have been convicted, BECAUSE of video evidence. Have you followed any of this at all	sabrina 1	May 2012	#43
You have made my point.	boppers	May 2012	#46
Your point must be a state secret, because I have no idea what point you are trying to make.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#48
My point is that bullshit allegations get refuted by video evidence.	boppers	May 2012	#54
And I agree, which is why I keep asking for the video evidence of violent protesters.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#59
well done Sabrina	fascisthunter	May 2012	#60
Tired of the circular argument, with zero to back it up. Not that I hadn't noticed but	sabrina 1	May 2012	#61
you are always welcome!	fascisthunter	May 2012	#100
+100 Sabrina	Generic Other	May 2012	#81
If 99.9999% percent are innocent, that's still not 100%.	boppers	May 2012	#70
Black Bloc is not OWS. How hard is that for you to understand?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#95
How is OWS preventing Bloc infiltration? Blood tests or something? eom	boppers	May 2012	#102
'Infiltration'. Thank you!	sabrina 1	May 2012	#103
So, members.	boppers	May 2012	#109
I don't care what they do. They are a separate group who have been around	sabrina 1	May 2012	#118
If you think the Civil Rights Movement was all non-violent, shame on your schooling.	boppers	May 2012	#119
What was MLK's approach to achieving his goals?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#120
MLK advocated non-violence.	boppers	May 2012	#123
boppers...you have been owned!!!	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#107
Only for those lacking a dictionary.	boppers	May 2012	#110
And nurses, construction workers, fire fighters, pilots, school teachers, students,	sabrina 1	May 2012	#121
Indeed. It's a huge coalition, rarely attempted before.	boppers	May 2012	#124
And you know what? They don't make policy, at all.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#122
They do, unfortunately, make news.	boppers	May 2012	#126
Oh please. You are talking about the US media? They create 'news' to fit an agenda. No one	sabrina 1	May 2012	#128
I propose the following ideas for a GA:	boppers	May 2012	#129
Each comment you make shows how little you have followed this movement.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#132
You missed my refrain.	boppers	May 2012	#135
I didn't miss your refrain at all.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#138
Maybe you didn't see it.	boppers	May 2012	#142
Lol, of course I saw it, months ago, on Glenn Beck's blog, and on Free Republic	sabrina 1	May 2012	#164
Some wang thought that a local Fox news guy was part of the 1%.	boppers	May 2012	#165
Really, I have a friend who was part of the Portland Occupy movement. I guess you just stopped by	sabrina 1	May 2012	#166
I was not a camper.	boppers	May 2012	#167
Thanks for posting this link, BTW.	boppers	May 2012	#143
Please see my post #58 in this thread.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#67
Another story about another victim in Chicago that didn't deserve what he got:	sad sally	May 2012	#19
How terribly sad. And even more so that it occurs on a regular basis. Those children should be	sabrina 1	May 2012	#34
How do we know what was going on?	treestar	May 2012	#21
Well, he is a photo journalist for one of the best organizations that often send their	sabrina 1	May 2012	#37
So the police are thugs. What else is new	lunatica	May 2012	#22
What else is new is that "we" have an AG who apparently won't prosecute any of them, the	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#53
maybe he was stalking somebody with his camera	hfojvt	May 2012	#27
Why the hell would you side with the police!? I'm about to post livestream of what happened to him	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#57
Yay, Cops!	Iggo	May 2012	#32
Chicago cops also arrested a Getty photographer. Just nonsense... n/t	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#38
How dare Olson bang his head on the pigs'	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#39
the same posters always siding with authority	fascisthunter	May 2012	#55
Surprised? No. Most of them were likely Republican before the GOP purges, they have not changed	Dragonfli	May 2012	#64
YOU nailed it	fascisthunter	May 2012	#101
*	ronnie624	May 2012	#105
Here is livestream of what appears to have happened to him.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#58
I was close	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#62
You saw the pics of cops shoving people along the fence and into each other; it's the second photo	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#66
I watched the video you posted	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#84
Why did the cops attack those protesters, right after the Veterans tossed their medals?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#85
I didn't see an attack in the video Fire posted	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#87
They moved in as the Veterans themselves, interviewed on various media, stated. People	sabrina 1	May 2012	#97
How quickly we forget the Bill of Rights.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#98
And the cops shoving him into it have nothing to do with it?	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#86
I didn't see the other thread.	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#89
You are making a conclusion without examing the evidence provided?	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#91
I watched the video yesterday	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#92
I didn't say he was baton'd.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#93
My mistake	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#94
Many -were- beaten. This is not my thread. I did not say the photographer was baton'd.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#99
"peaceful assembly" My ass.	boppers	May 2012	#114
It was fully peaceful until cops showed up 15+ deep and began giving orders against the	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#115
Are you wearing a brown shirt today?	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#130
Gandhi thought people should be armed.	boppers	May 2012	#133
give it up	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#108
Whoa, I didn't know that, thanks. Blasted cops. n/t	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#125
"hit by a baton" means nothing.	boppers	May 2012	#136
Your reply makes you look ridiculous.	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#151
So, you don't engage in baton sport?	boppers	May 2012	#152
A bloody scratch is not a head wound. It's a mosh pit souvenir.	boppers	May 2012	#113
Proportion, especially because the rally at which those injuries were doled out	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#116
I suggest you read the Geneva conventions again.	boppers	May 2012	#127
You are the one who needs a reading lesson.	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#131
The Geneva conventions are between states.	boppers	May 2012	#134
Sadly, for those who die for their rights, many cry wolf. eom	boppers	May 2012	#112
Refusal to disperse is not a right.	boppers	May 2012	#111
The Constitution. Use it or lose it. Because it's being killed before our very eyes.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#117
Riot is not a right. Orderly assembly, is.	boppers	May 2012	#137
Seriously? Seriously? I'm looking at this and looking at this	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#141
Basically, the last 200 years have sided with 1st amendment limits on speech.	boppers	May 2012	#145
He probably didn't do anything to deserve it...	tledford	May 2012	#63
Why do you keep thinking that DUers want to see anyone injured?	randome	May 2012	#69
You obviously don't have a fucking clue	pinboy3niner	May 2012	#72
Who the hell am I casting aspersion to?	randome	May 2012	#73
Nice try, but no sale	pinboy3niner	May 2012	#76
Protesting against police violence against protesters doesn't appear to be working.	randome	May 2012	#77
You asked what we're doing, and I told you what we're doing	pinboy3niner	May 2012	#79
Is is not "pissing on" the protestors to point out that the	treestar	May 2012	#140
Yes!	sabrina 1	May 2012	#104
was the aparagus steamed or grilled? n/t	librechik	May 2012	#96
What is the purpose of being out in the streets?	treestar	May 2012	#139
To the posters not believing he was struck by baton, here's confirmation from Getty Images	suffragette	May 2012	#144
So, somebody who wasn't there, with no actual knowledge, or evidence, has "confirmed" it?	boppers	May 2012	#146
Well, didn't take you long - lol	suffragette	May 2012	#148
My father was a PR flack for the Mormon (CoJCoLDS) church.	boppers	May 2012	#149
Your dad was a Mormon mouthpiece so you "know how these things work"...too funny.	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#153
Only in absurdly high concentrations.	boppers	May 2012	#154
Here I give you the BS that is boppers.	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#156
'Details are sparse...'	randome	May 2012	#147
Actually I don't. You can contact the Getty PR person yourself through the links in post #148	suffragette	May 2012	#159
I would think that if you want to support your premise, you would do this.	randome	May 2012	#161
I believe that person so I have no need for doing that	suffragette	May 2012	#162
Damn...thanks :(	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#157
Thanks for your substantive contributions	suffragette	May 2012	#163
The thing that shocks me are the bizarre lies the pro-police posters make up to justify the violence	WriteWrong	May 2012	#150
I suppose the 'evil criminal' posts are...where?	randome	May 2012	#155
Are you talking about the photo journalist? He got his injury from a police baton it has now been	sabrina 1	May 2012	#169
You're absolutely correct. No one at DU is defending police brutality.	randome	May 2012	#170
It did not have to meander all over the place. Most of us simply looked for the story and easily	sabrina 1	May 2012	#171
Well, there's really no point in anyone lying to protect them. The cases are reaching the courts now	sabrina 1	May 2012	#168

Response to Earth_First (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 08:38 PM

monmouth (21,078 posts)

1. Remember when we were kids and told "Policemen were your friends." I don't recognize much of this

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country anymore. I'm wondering if the CIA is involved in any of these tactics or some other unknown organization.

So tell me, ...what did this guy do to deserve it?

1. Remember when we were kids and told "Policemen were your friends." I don't recognize much of this

11. I was told the same. In fact, most of the cops where I grew up were

14. feels like a political convention once

2. Who is he? I mean, I'm all for detail-free posting in the Lounge, but in

6. Look, it's a guy with a blood head!

3. Do you have any other information?

4. Is he under arrest?

5. Are you kidding me?

7. Lucky he's not in jail, well I assume he's not. They've been throwing journalists in jail

8. Yes, can someone explain this photo?

9. No context.

10. The context of this particular image may not be equally as important as the fact...

12. The picture is of Getty Images photographer Scott Olson

13. Thank you, Art...

15. See below, he is a photo journalist who works for Getty images.

16. Doesn't look any worse than Zimmerman's. A scratch, really.

17. Well, Zimmerman killed a man, so he deserved a few 'scratches'. The question was, what did this

18. He doesn't look beaten to me

24. He's a photo journalist. He wasn't exactly in a war zone, although he sure likes like he was.

26. It kills me that so many here are willing to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, first...

30. Lol, I know. There is simply no logic to it considering the past seven months of evidence that

40. It is positively disgusting and pathetic. - n/t

88. The loyal apologists for the police are here in force on DU

31. a journalist carrying a camera, what more do you need?

80. This is how a police state maintains its power

20. I don't know what he did. Do you?

23. I don't know yet, but the video will be available soon. I do remember so many instances like this

25. So many are so quick to take defense of law enforcement? Why?

29. How many were arrested, detained, or beaten in each of the last 20 years?

36. Do you have an instances of that scenario you just conjured up happening at any of these

41. Well, how does it compare to other years?

42. I don't know, maybe the phony War on Drugs or the detention of Muslims suspected of being terrorists

47. Give me numbers, not rhetoric.

44. Josh Sterns has been documenting arrests of journalists since September...

45. ...and there is also "Photography Is Not A Crime" -ran by a DUer who doesn't post very often

49. Compared to what?

50. When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year...

56. I have never heard of it.

68. One journalist arrested and detained

74. Journalists who rape children should be arrested and detained, to point to the obvious.

83. Report: Press freedom holds steady worldwide

90. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant"

51. When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year...

158. None, of course. Is there some legitimate number of inappropriately beaten-up innocents?

160. Sure. They get their day in court, and their lawsuits.

52. So how does that compare with the number of banksters arrested since September?

65. So, how many instances of these molotov cocktail throwing "fake journalists" can you point to? nt

71. Hm, at OccupyPortland's last stand, I counted 10 who were armed for combat *and* journalism.

75. You're right.

78. Just like everybody who carries a camera and claims to be a "journalist".

82. What is this? "I know you are but what am I?" You're

106. It's his typical approach.

28. You're pretty fascinated by video evidence.

33. Multiple cameras produce evidence from many different angles, that is why so far, no one has

35. It's also why some protesters get arrested, and convicted, for their actions.

43. No protesters have been convicted, BECAUSE of video evidence. Have you followed any of this at all

46. You have made my point.

48. Your point must be a state secret, because I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

54. My point is that bullshit allegations get refuted by video evidence.

59. And I agree, which is why I keep asking for the video evidence of violent protesters.

60. well done Sabrina

61. Tired of the circular argument, with zero to back it up. Not that I hadn't noticed but

100. you are always welcome!

81. +100 Sabrina

70. If 99.9999% percent are innocent, that's still not 100%.

95. Black Bloc is not OWS. How hard is that for you to understand?

102. How is OWS preventing Bloc infiltration? Blood tests or something? eom

103. 'Infiltration'. Thank you!

109. So, members.

118. I don't care what they do. They are a separate group who have been around

119. If you think the Civil Rights Movement was all non-violent, shame on your schooling.

120. What was MLK's approach to achieving his goals?

123. MLK advocated non-violence.

107. boppers...you have been owned!!!

110. Only for those lacking a dictionary.

121. And nurses, construction workers, fire fighters, pilots, school teachers, students,

124. Indeed. It's a huge coalition, rarely attempted before.

122. And you know what? They don't make policy, at all.

126. They do, unfortunately, make news.

71. Hm, at OccupyPortland's last stand, I counted 10 who were armed for combat and journalism.

167. I was not a camper.

145. Basically, the last 200 years have sided with 1st amendment limits on speech.