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Best teacher comment about a student's paper ever! (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Aug 2015 OP
Fake yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #1
I am a teacher and a friend to many students and their families, mostly past, some present. DamnYankeeInHouston Aug 2015 #3
Wow! Kinda surprised with present yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #5
Specifically... a *Facebook* friend? gcomeau Aug 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #29
Our school district tells us NOT to have any social media contact with any student 1monster Aug 2015 #31
I don't friend my students, LWolf Aug 2015 #14
Way to crush a kid's spirit, if true. WillowTree Aug 2015 #2
I agree - very mean. DamnYankeeInHouston Aug 2015 #4
Sometimes the naked truth is what's called for tkmorris Aug 2015 #6
No, what is always called for are comments that are helpful. Spewing comical insults, pnwmom Aug 2015 #11
Fine. Then the teacher should be professional about it. WillowTree Aug 2015 #21
I vehemently disagree. I have been a teacher for ... 11 Bravo Aug 2015 #32
Yeah, that's over the top. Would have been better with the, 'I know you can do better' approach. n/t PatrickforO Aug 2015 #7
Is that a teacher or a critic? tblue Aug 2015 #9
Plagiarism from the Internet is a huge problem these days. Teacher might suspect that. Also.... Hekate Aug 2015 #12
+1, not constructive at all uponit7771 Aug 2015 #19
Depends on the "kid's" age and history. jeff47 Aug 2015 #23
There's a huge difference between "delicate" and being snide and condescending. WillowTree Aug 2015 #24
And my point is it may not be a legitimate question. jeff47 Aug 2015 #25
Whether things were presented to a kid in a more professional manner or not....... WillowTree Aug 2015 #30
It isn't... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #27
Sounds like a college teacher, not a high school one jmowreader Aug 2015 #8
I give the teacher an F. The teacher failed to provide any useful feedback, which is pnwmom Aug 2015 #10
+1 assuming this is not fake (a big assumption) the teacher failed to provide GreatGazoo Aug 2015 #17
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahahahha malaise Aug 2015 #15
Grading the Teacher's Writing alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #16
I find that response rather disgusting ecstatic Aug 2015 #18
This thread is even funnier than the graphic. Brickbat Aug 2015 #20
Yep. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #26
crappy teacher who doesn't use constructive criticism. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #22
If this is real, teacher needs to go. bigwillq Aug 2015 #28
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Wow! Kinda surprised with present
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:14 AM
Aug 2015

I am all for past but just didn't think students would want their teachers to know what they are up to until later. Maybe it's real.

Response to DamnYankeeInHouston (Reply #3)

1monster

(11,012 posts)
31. Our school district tells us NOT to have any social media contact with any student
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:16 PM
Aug 2015

attending district school, not just the schools we teach in...

It is for the safety of the students, the district employees, and the school district. Former students are okay. Current students, not okay.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
14. I don't friend my students,
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:14 AM
Aug 2015

although I'm always asked to. I like to keep my private life private.

My district, and my school, have fb pages. I can, if I want, create a professional fb identity to interact with them. I haven't, but many teachers have.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
6. Sometimes the naked truth is what's called for
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:21 AM
Aug 2015

Without having seen this kid's paper I cannot say if this was such a circumstance.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
11. No, what is always called for are comments that are helpful. Spewing comical insults,
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:40 AM
Aug 2015

no matter how well deserved, will not help the student improve his or her writing.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
21. Fine. Then the teacher should be professional about it.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:29 AM
Aug 2015

Snide rhetoric and hyperbole are completely out of place in this venue (school).

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
32. I vehemently disagree. I have been a teacher for ...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

almost 40 years, and I neither I, nor to my knowledge, any of my colleagues ever penned anything as demeaning or dismissive toward a student placed in our charge.
If this is not faked, then that teacher should feel ashamed.

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
12. Plagiarism from the Internet is a huge problem these days. Teacher might suspect that. Also....
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:16 AM
Aug 2015

I started college in 1965, and some of my professors could be memorably sarcastic. My favorite classroom statement from Prof. Sharp was: "Simple minds, simple answers."

I think this kid's spirit will survive.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Depends on the "kid's" age and history.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:10 AM
Aug 2015

If the "kid" is older, like end of High School or in College, then there's less reason to be delicate. They should have learned how to write a coherent paper by the time they're at that late stage.

Also, if there's a history of the teacher trying to be delicate and supportive and the kid just isn't getting it, then it might be time to be more direct to get their attention.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
24. There's a huge difference between "delicate" and being snide and condescending.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

I would not have had much respect for any teacher that I had in high school who responded to a legitimate question that way. This isn't constructive criticism, nor is it indicative of someone who wants to instruct, but rather of someone who is looking to make the reader feel small and stupid.

And, by the way, if the paper was really that bad, then the teacher must have done a pretty pittiful job of explaining his/her expectations for the report. Especially since the student's question itself would seem to indicate that the kid is interested in doing well, or at least better, and isn't just blowing the poor grade off.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. And my point is it may not be a legitimate question.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:49 AM
Aug 2015

We don't have the history of questions this student has asked and the teacher has answered. It could very well be that the approach you support was taken dozens of times before this interaction.

Heck, we don't know if this was actually sent to the student or was a "What I wanted to say was...." post.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
30. Whether things were presented to a kid in a more professional manner or not.......
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:47 PM
Aug 2015

........it is highly unlikely that such sneering, self-satisfied rhetoric is going to result in any improvement.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
27. It isn't...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:52 AM
Aug 2015

I don't think any teacher would say something like this privately to their student, let alone publicly. There is zero constructive criticism there, it is all insult.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
10. I give the teacher an F. The teacher failed to provide any useful feedback, which is
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 02:39 AM
Aug 2015

a teacher's job. This is just a humorously written hit-piece.

No student would know how to improve his or her work based on this.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
17. +1 assuming this is not fake (a big assumption) the teacher failed to provide
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:55 AM
Aug 2015

useful feedback, opting instead to showcase their colorful metaphors.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. Grading the Teacher's Writing
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:48 AM
Aug 2015

A Few Comments on Your Research Paper Response

"In fact, the sentences...seemed to be placed there against their will."

The seeming was a fact? "In fact" clearly serves as an intensifier here, but it is confusing, given that what follows is not really a "fact" as we (or the reader) would generally understand it. The general problem with this sentence is what's called a slow wind-up. Between the subject ("the sentences&quot and the main verb ("seemed&quot you've placed a 20 word (!) restrictive clause. It makes the sentence more confusing - even to the writer! Indeed, the content of the restrictive clause is merely apparent ("apparently&quot while the content of the main clause is clearly apparent ("clearly seemed&quot !

"...interacting at a cocktail party..."

A "cocktail party?" This is not the best metaphor to be addressed to a student in 2015. Perhaps it would work for a prep school student in 1963. It's an archaic metaphor for interaction relative to the audience; people don't really go to "cocktail parties" anymore, even with the cocktail culture resurgence. In any case, who kidnaps people and forces them to go to a cocktail party? If you're going to use the kidnapping metaphor in sentence 3 and the hostage situation metaphor as your forceful close in sentence 6, you shouldn't interrupt those with the cocktail party metaphor in sentence 4. Rather, the cocktail party should be switched out for something a) more relevant to the reader and b) more consistent with the surrounding tropes in sentences 3 and 6.

Overall, a good start, and we get your point. But... Lack of audience-focus. Poor transitions. Bizarre mixed metaphors. Clunky sentences. I would also caution you on your lack of grace here, but we should focus on improving your actual writing before we deal with issues of ethos. B-

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
18. I find that response rather disgusting
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:15 AM
Aug 2015

Based on the response, I'm guessing the student didn't organize the paper properly. If the course topic was not English or literature, she probably felt it wasn't her job to help him, but she could have at least offered more constructive guidance--perhaps a link to a site the student could visit to get on track.

The problem is, many students aren't taught this in school. I had a friend who made it to college without knowing the minimum requirements for a coherent essay/ paper (intro with thesis, paragraphs supporting the thesis, conclusion). Once I taught him the basic formula, he was competent enough to pass georgia's regents exam (which really isn't saying much, and I think that exam has been discontinued due to so many college students failing it, smh).

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
26. Yep.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

I could easily see myself writing something like that. And sure, that probably means it's a good thing I don't use my PhD to teach...but it's still funny.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
22. crappy teacher who doesn't use constructive criticism.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:34 AM
Aug 2015

Sarcasm and ridicule is no substitute for a well reasoned critique. The guide for the teacher should be, "How can I improve this student's ability to write a good paper?" This might get guffaws at a cocktail party but it doesn't help students. The teacher seems to have failed as a stand up comedian and now is taking it out on his students.

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