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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:45 PM Aug 2015

An NPR piece on Jimmy Carter closed with...

"He's planning his next adventure." Throughout the interview, Carter was lucid, calm, and entirely aware that this was natural end of a 90 year life well lived.

He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been President.

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An NPR piece on Jimmy Carter closed with... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 OP
Amen!!! oldandhappy Aug 2015 #1
KnR. Well said. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #2
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #3
Very true. brer cat Aug 2015 #4
"...he may have been the greatest man MissDeeds Aug 2015 #5
Well put. hedgehog Aug 2015 #8
Well said. K&R. Carter is a truly great man. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #6
A class act all the way. Who has walked the walk. LuckyLib Aug 2015 #7
The man isn't dead yet. Fearless Aug 2015 #9
Thank you ashling Aug 2015 #10
Not dead yet. He feels happy! He feels fine! Lucky Luciano Aug 2015 #34
True, I wish him the best! DawgHouse Aug 2015 #45
Thank you. cwydro Aug 2015 #66
Right! What a life! And he's still living it. n/t SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #70
I very much agree. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #11
I was a Kennedy '80 Democrat and... MarianJack Aug 2015 #12
I'm not giving up on Jimmy Carter.. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #13
kick glinda Aug 2015 #14
He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been Pres raindaddy Aug 2015 #15
A great president KT2000 Aug 2015 #16
Agree with you. Worried senior Aug 2015 #46
Death is in all of our futures loyalsister Aug 2015 #17
The ultimate philosophical truth is that everything that lives malaise Aug 2015 #23
he will do so much more in the time he has left than many people would do in their life time JI7 Aug 2015 #18
+1 merrily Aug 2015 #38
This Tommymac Aug 2015 #19
I'm going to cry like a baby when that man is gone. sufrommich Aug 2015 #20
I'm with you on this -- all the way AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #63
Certainly he is the most decent man to have been president. sarge43 Aug 2015 #21
He is an honorable man etherealtruth Aug 2015 #22
To quote Friedrich Nietzsche - TBF Aug 2015 #24
Aaaayyhhh. You're making my eyes water. mmonk Aug 2015 #25
Contrary to popular righty belief, he was a pretty damn good President. Sure beats Reagan. IHateTheGOP Aug 2015 #26
Like others posting here, I say with pride that my first and second time to vote Grammy23 Aug 2015 #27
My first vote at age 18 IDemo Aug 2015 #28
my first vote also nt steve2470 Aug 2015 #30
+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #31
Yes. LWolf Aug 2015 #36
Mine too. redwitch Aug 2015 #75
Same for me. hifiguy Aug 2015 #55
mine too, i pulled the lever for him when I was 18 etherealtruth Aug 2015 #57
"He may not have been our greatest President....." merrily Aug 2015 #29
NPR. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #32
No one ever credits him for not going to war over the hostages, despite goading from many quarters. merrily Aug 2015 #33
Not to mention that he probably would have got the hostages released if he hadn't been A Simple Game Aug 2015 #39
Yep. Release occurred very shortly after the inauguration of St. Ronnie. merrily Aug 2015 #40
And not surprisingly there was a Bush "allegedly" in the background or in this case Paris. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #42
I did not know that. merrily Aug 2015 #44
I would bet that it didn't surprise you. Yet another period in time that the A Simple Game Aug 2015 #65
Nazi filth.... Enthusiast Aug 2015 #48
GHW Bush and William Casey were the ones who cut the deal hifiguy Aug 2015 #56
that very evening, if I recall correctly. niyad Aug 2015 #73
I am so with you on that. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #47
That wasn't NPR, that was me. Get it straight. TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #51
Carter gets a bum rap from many folks markpkessinger Aug 2015 #68
I don't see the Democratic Party as many do. merrily Aug 2015 #76
Yes. LWolf Aug 2015 #35
He talked as straight as Bernie. merrily Aug 2015 #41
This is making me awfully sad. nt Stellar Aug 2015 #37
90 years old, brilliant, kind, and brave. DirkGently Aug 2015 #43
What a beautiful sentiment. aquamarina Aug 2015 #49
True enough. Xyzse Aug 2015 #50
President Carter is truly a great man Gothmog Aug 2015 #52
agreed, 100%. magical thyme Aug 2015 #53
His calm, composed demeanor hifiguy Aug 2015 #54
May his cancer be healed Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #58
And it's not even close. lark Aug 2015 #59
We shall see... he might make it out yet... JCMach1 Aug 2015 #60
You said it very well AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #61
"a 90 year life well lived" -- beautifully said, beautifully. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #62
He is still my favorite president of my lifetime. blackspade Aug 2015 #64
By no means did he acknowledge this as the "natural end of a life well lived" . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #67
he will be alright.. he knows where he is going...n/t secondwind Aug 2015 #69
I say he was a great president The Jungle 1 Aug 2015 #71
In my lifetime, there have been three great presidents and one good president. Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #72
i concur. hifiguy Aug 2015 #74

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
9. The man isn't dead yet.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:42 PM
Aug 2015

I will wait to see if it has spread further and the radiation treatment he is receiving.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
11. I very much agree.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 12:15 AM
Aug 2015

"He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been President."

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
12. I was a Kennedy '80 Democrat and...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 12:16 AM
Aug 2015

...I consider Jimmy Carter to be, certainly, our greatest former President ever!

PEACE!

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
15. He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been Pres
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:01 AM
Aug 2015

Well said!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
17. Death is in all of our futures
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:34 AM
Aug 2015

Living out one's final years with of peace when it is in plain view on the horizon is something that I would hope for everyone to have. People who are comfortable with it are more likely to make plans that alleviate the burden on the people who will feel a loss.

I have known people who have had that perspective and it made it so much easier for their friends and families to grieve and proceed with their lives.

malaise

(268,938 posts)
23. The ultimate philosophical truth is that everything that lives
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:49 AM
Aug 2015

will die.
We must all strive to be comfortable with that reality.
Jimmy Carter is a class act.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
19. This
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:31 AM
Aug 2015
"He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been President."

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
20. I'm going to cry like a baby when that man is gone.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:42 AM
Aug 2015

He was my first (and second) vote for president. He walks the walk and always has.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
63. I'm with you on this -- all the way
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:39 PM
Aug 2015

I will mourn him for as long as I live. He has inspired me like no other president in my lifetime.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
24. To quote Friedrich Nietzsche -
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:00 AM
Aug 2015

"not just a good and great man, but an entire culture."

He was referring to his teacher Goethe of course, but it applies here as well.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
27. Like others posting here, I say with pride that my first and second time to vote
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:43 AM
Aug 2015

were for Jimmy Carter. My first big electoral disappointment was when he was not re-elected and we had 8 years of Ronald Reagan to endure. Since leaving the Presidency in 1981, Mr. Carter, with his wife by his side, has given all of us a living example of how to make a difference in the world. He could have gone back to Plains, gone on speaking tours and written books and had a good life. Instead, he did all of those things and many more. His involvement in Habitat for Humanity helped bring that organization to our attention and encouraged many volunteers and donors to support it with time, labor, supplies and dollars. The development of The Carter Center is a shining example of how one couple's dream (he readily credits Roselyn for her role in their projects) can become reality. Never content to be just figureheads, the Carters have always been hands-on leaders who demonstrated their commitment with their time and presence at their projects. The legacy that they built will last long after the founders are gone.

Now Mr. Carter is showing us how one CAN deal with the development of a potentially fatal illness. Ever the pragmatist, he is demonstrating the same attitude about this situation that he has used in other areas of his life. Calm, centered and armed with his faith and a plan to treat the cancer, he is prepared for whatever comes. No self pity, no whining or statements about why me? Just a determined outlook to live whatever time remains to him with grace, dignity and purpose. We can all learn from that.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
28. My first vote at age 18
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:49 AM
Aug 2015

And one I shall forever remain proud of. The man has been disparaged by RW'rs ever since, and I take that for what it's worth. Politicians would do very well to examine Carter's life and apply some principles to their public service, genuine public service.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
31. +100%!
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:08 AM
Aug 2015

They used the media to disparage Jimmy leading up to the election then they used clandestine, treasonous subterfuge to win the election. Nazi filth.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
55. Same for me.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:17 PM
Aug 2015

Turned 18 a couple of years before the 76 election. Proudly voted for Jimmy Carter and my Senator, Fritz Mondale, who is himself still going strong.

We should all live our lives with a fraction of the basic decency, selfless humanity and thoughtful reflection with with President Carter has lived his.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
57. mine too, i pulled the lever for him when I was 18
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:19 PM
Aug 2015

unfortunately, Reagan won ... but I remain proud of my vote

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. "He may not have been our greatest President....."
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:05 AM
Aug 2015

Why trot that out, even if the sentence ends well? I can't rec this.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. No one ever credits him for not going to war over the hostages, despite goading from many quarters.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:16 AM
Aug 2015

Had he listened to that bullshit, the hostages would have been the first casualties and then thousands more would have died as well, not to mention the $$,

Amnesty for draft dodgers, no war over hostages, the Egypt-Israel peace treaty-trying to make the US less dependent of Middle Eastern oil. Yet he gets less credit than "In my heart and mind, I don't believe I traded arms for hostages, but the evidence shows I did."

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
39. Not to mention that he probably would have got the hostages released if he hadn't been
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:31 AM
Aug 2015

undercut by a traitor negotiating to delay their release behind his back to better his chances of becoming President.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
65. I would bet that it didn't surprise you. Yet another period in time that the
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:08 PM
Aug 2015

ex-CIA director Bush, the only adult person in the US that can't remember were he was when JFK was assassinated, can't seem to recall where he was or what was doing.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
56. GHW Bush and William Casey were the ones who cut the deal
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:19 PM
Aug 2015

with the Iranians. Part of the deal was no confirmation of the release until Zombie King Reagan had taken the oath of office. To cheat Carter out of even that.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
68. Carter gets a bum rap from many folks
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:37 PM
Aug 2015

He wasn't perfect, to be sure -- no president is. He could be irascible. He didn't play the Washington political game terribly well (although, while that may be a political flaw, it is probably a character asset). His economic policy, which was all about cutting domestic spending, probably wasn't particularly helpful to the economy at the time, although it certainly wasn't the cause of the problems. But the man did some truly great things, too, and doesn't deserve much of the criticism directed at his presidency. The bad things associated with his years in office -- the sky-high energy prices, the stagnant economy, the Iranian hostage crisis -- were largely beyond the ability of ANY president to directly control, and would have bedeviled any president who had the misfortune to occupy the White House at the time. The ongoing after-effects of OPEC's shenanigans earlier in the decade were still being felt, and an already stagnant economy was under the added pressure of having to reintegrate tens of thousands of returning Vietnam veterans. He was a fine President, and he is a great man!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
76. I don't see the Democratic Party as many do.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 04:31 AM
Aug 2015

Many see see it as a liberal spending party that made a U turn in that regard after the DLC. I see the New Deal and the Great Society as the aberrations--and probably conceived in part out of fear of armed revolution, or at least violence erupting around the coutry, especially the New Deal. We forget: Black Tuesday was not very far removed from the Russian Revolutions. That must have set the Rockefellers and Joe Kennedy alike to quaking. But, all is well. The Patriot Act, Homeland Security and militarized law enforcement will keep everything under control. And, technically, it's not really posse comitatus.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
35. Yes.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:19 AM
Aug 2015

I don't know who our "greatest" president has been, but he's the only president in my lifetime that I've actually admired.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
41. He talked as straight as Bernie.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:35 AM
Aug 2015

I wonder what DU would have made of "I have lusted in my mind" or whatever he said about lust to Playboy.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
54. His calm, composed demeanor
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

at this juncture of his long life is inspirational. That is a man unquestionably at peace with himself and the world, and deservedly so.

He knows that he has lived an astonishingly rich, full life, much of it in unselfish service to humanity and that he has nothing to regret.

A great man, indeed.

He will be deeply and sorely missed.

lark

(23,092 posts)
59. And it's not even close.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:32 PM
Aug 2015

Carter was always honest to a fault and cared deeply about the planet and his fellow humans. think how much better off we'd be as a country if the hated idiot Raygun hadn't undone so many of Carter's energy saving initiatives. Carter was never a tool of the 1%, which was probably, sadlly, his undoing.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
61. You said it very well
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:08 PM
Aug 2015
He may not have been our greatest President, but he may have been the greatest man to have been President.


Kick and rec

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
67. By no means did he acknowledge this as the "natural end of a life well lived" . . .
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:26 PM
Aug 2015

. . . he said he intends to pursue treatment and hopes to extend his life as long as possible. Sure, he's aware that treatment may or may not be successful, but for God's sake, the man hasn't thrown in the towel yet!

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
71. I say he was a great president
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:04 PM
Aug 2015

Carter could have easily gotten reelected if he did only one thing Reagan did.
Spend spend spend.
If Carter would have spent the way Reagan did he would have had a great economy. Reagan tripled our deficit. That, folks, is a lot of spending. Even I could produce a great economy spending the way Reagan did. The ongoing republican lie of fiscal responsibility is disturbing.
Carter didn't spend which is why he is great.

A noble quite man doing great things his whole life.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
72. In my lifetime, there have been three great presidents and one good president.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:28 PM
Aug 2015

Three great: Eisenhower, Kennedy and Carter.

One good: Johnson

The Horrible: Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, Bush I & II, and Obama.

Yes, Obama. He sucked up to Wall St. and didn't help Main St. He picked Holder and Lynch because he knew they wouldn't hold WS accountable for criminal activity.

He knew about Occupy Wall St. and the crackdown that was happening and didn't do anything about it, maybe he was quietly communicating with the FBI and NYPD and gave the go-head to stop OWS in its tracks.

Although the Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare has helped a lot of people, it was written by insurance companies.

But I digress. Carter is a great man and his humility and empathetic and when he's gone, will surely be missed the world over. As a matter of fact, they should have a national holiday once a year for this great human being.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
74. i concur.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

And if LBJ had possessed the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the generals,who were the only people who ever got the political best of him, he would have been been resoundingly reelected in 1968 and outdone his hero FDR.

And James Earl Carter is one of the finest men to ever sit in the White House.

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