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TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:29 PM Aug 2015

Hackers Dump Ashley Madison's Customer Data (32 Million), Which Spans The Past 7 Years!

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"A data dump, 9.7 gigabytes in size, was posted on Tuesday to the dark web using an Onion address accessible only through the Tor browser. The files appear to include account details and log-ins for some 32 million users of the social networking site, touted as the premier site for married individuals seeking partners for affairs. Seven years worth of credit card and other payment transaction details are also part of the dump, going back to 2007. The data, which amounts to millions of payment transactions, includes names, street address, email address and amount paid. AshleyMadison.com claimed to have nearly 40 million users at the time of the breach about a month ago, all apparently in the market for clandestine hookups."


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The rush is on to see if there are any politicos on the list, with 15,000 .gov and .mil email addresses.


http://www.wired.com/2015/08/happened-hackers-posted-stolen-ashley-madison-data/?mbid=synd_slate


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"Despite promising customers to delete their user data from the site for a $19 fee, the company actually retained the data on ALM’s servers, the hackers claimed."


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Here's a Schoolhouse Rock clip "Interjection":




Here's Ashley Madison's rip of it "Infidelity":




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Hackers Dump Ashley Madison's Customer Data (32 Million), Which Spans The Past 7 Years! (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 OP
Oh, fuck the hackers and their beavis & butthead mentality. delrem Aug 2015 #1
here's the list of email domains. I know for sure people at DOTgov are not allowed to surf at work. Sunlei Aug 2015 #5
Why are you doing this? AngryAmish Aug 2015 #7
please note, it is the domain names not the actual emails that is up on public pastebin. Sunlei Aug 2015 #9
Full email addresses or things like "@gmail.com"? AngryAmish Aug 2015 #10
yes, like @DOTgov. However, you can go to trending on pastebin and see the actual names BUT... Sunlei Aug 2015 #11
Still a shitty thing to do. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #13
It is against the working rules for government employees to use their work .gov emails like that. Sunlei Aug 2015 #14
Who the hell are you to say what people do during their workdays? randome Aug 2015 #16
I got all the info from the news article. except I do know .gov employees aren't supposted to Sunlei Aug 2015 #22
Neither am I. Can I count on you to ferret out my manager and rat on me? randome Aug 2015 #23
no, but you can count on me to read the news! Sunlei Aug 2015 #25
maybe they are doing it break or lunch time. But it was wrong to hack and now to post riversedge Aug 2015 #40
It's not allowed to use DOTgov servers for 'personal fun' even on breaks or lunch. Sunlei Aug 2015 #46
Why some folks seem completely unable to comprehend that is astonishing. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #47
They probably didn't realise that about DOTgov servers. The gov employees should know better. Sunlei Aug 2015 #57
So is cheating on your spouse saturnsring Aug 2015 #58
"Public Shaming" is the new national pastime, apparently. arcane1 Aug 2015 #76
You don't know awesome when you see it? ROFL snooper2 Aug 2015 #15
How many children are going to lose their parents because of this? randome Aug 2015 #17
lose their parent? you think somebody is going to die now? snooper2 Aug 2015 #19
Divorce. randome Aug 2015 #21
While I don't support the hack, I wouldn't feel bad for somebody if their husband/wife found out Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #26
Unfortunately, there are a lot of loveless, sexless marriages out there. randome Aug 2015 #29
I'm aware of that Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #36
People stay in loveless or sexless marriages for a host if reasons. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #66
Potential for blackmail is high Generic Other Aug 2015 #75
YES! Punish the whistleblowers! Orrex Aug 2015 #37
Relationships are complicated. It's not up to you or me to determine what is 'moral' or not. randome Aug 2015 #56
Caveat cheater Orrex Aug 2015 #60
Hold up. Are you saying that its the hackers fault someone went to a hookup website cleanhippie Aug 2015 #48
Hardly. But I don't want anonymous hackers to determine which relationships are permissable, either. randome Aug 2015 #53
Which relationships are permissible? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #79
These hackers decided that adultery is not acceptable to them. randome Aug 2015 #90
I guess they did. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #97
None. Captain Stern Aug 2015 #45
That's the least of the problems here jberryhill Aug 2015 #54
Libertarians and anarchists unite! randome Aug 2015 #61
Because of getting caught, or because they chose to engage in an illicit affair? LanternWaste Aug 2015 #59
Face facts. Many marriages continue despite extra-marital affairs. randome Aug 2015 #62
Isn't it the infidelity that will break up the marriage and not the outing of it? saturnsring Aug 2015 #72
All I know is it shouldn't be up to anonymous hackers to decide that. randome Aug 2015 #73
Hackers aren't going to married people's houses and changing the locks. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #88
I don't think anon was trying to solve relationships saturnsring Aug 2015 #89
No, they simply decided they don't approve of adultery. randome Aug 2015 #92
Of course they're the cowards not the brave people hiding their affairs saturnsring Aug 2015 #94
Why stop there? Why not put a red 'A' on all their heads? randome Aug 2015 #95
Why stop here because this gives anyone who is being cheated on a way to know saturnsring Aug 2015 #96
As someone who's been badly affected by infidelity - Mother Of Four Aug 2015 #99
I to was surprised when 'news' media first pointed out pastebin as their sourse for information. Sunlei Aug 2015 #24
Since the latter is a crime, yes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #63
Kiddie porn is illegal. n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #77
check this out: cruz.senate.gov n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #65
yes, anyone can type in a false email on any website. Even the President is on the list. :P Sunlei Aug 2015 #67
Because they're cheaters sub.theory Aug 2015 #70
All of them? Kurska Aug 2015 #85
Well, it's not like they get laid a lot Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #83
Ah, sweet sweet Schadenfreude (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #2
Been cheated on so I despise people who cheat on their spouses but I've come to despise Jake Stern Aug 2015 #3
some 15,000 are .mil. or .gov addresses Sunlei Aug 2015 #4
I'm betting most of them are just Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #82
Looking over those .mil addresses Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #6
IMO, it is only the .gov email addresses-connected to fee payment, that will have intense scrutiny. Sunlei Aug 2015 #27
Cheating is wrong, yes Kurska Aug 2015 #8
Only if privacy means never having to face consequences sub.theory Aug 2015 #71
I don't want to live in a world Kurska Aug 2015 #84
How is hacking for the 'sport' of ruining couples and families anything to celebrate? randome Aug 2015 #12
I gave them a free pass on this one, and if someone is cheating and was exposed in this manner snooper2 Aug 2015 #18
It should not be your call. It should not be anyone's call. randome Aug 2015 #20
And if someone signed up just to be curious about the site? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #32
Is there an expectation of not getting caught when paying for a website that advertises cleanhippie Aug 2015 #49
It's the cheating that will ruin families and couples, nothing else whatthehey Aug 2015 #28
If only she hadn't worn a short skirt, right? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #34
How is that close to analogous? whatthehey Aug 2015 #38
You basically said they were asking for it by their actions Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #39
Asking for what? The results of their actions are their responsibility alone. I care not. whatthehey Aug 2015 #43
Joining a website that advertises "life is short, have an affair' and getting caught cleanhippie Aug 2015 #50
They weren't "caught" Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #52
You just identified the method by which they were caught tkmorris Aug 2015 #68
Now your picking nits. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #78
Place the fault on the cheaters NightWatcher Aug 2015 #41
Still can't figure out why I need a list of men who are cheating on their wives. Iggo Aug 2015 #30
Me neither, but since the Chinese have information on govt employees... jberryhill Aug 2015 #51
+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #81
I'm trying to feel bad about this. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #31
I hear you. n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #33
I was a kid in a parental infidelity family situation. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #44
Trying to feel good about it doesn't anything for me, either, though. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2015 #35
I know. I feel that too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #42
+1 FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #74
What kind of genius would register on that site with a .gov address? Renew Deal Aug 2015 #55
You'd be amazed how many people I busted accessing porn on government computers NightWatcher Aug 2015 #64
I feel sorry for the totally innocent who just went there to look around Vinca Aug 2015 #69
! cleanhippie Aug 2015 #80
a site for cheating on your spouse is hack and people have sympathy for the cheaters Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #86
The dark web? What's up with that? KamaAina Aug 2015 #87
Its basically a section of the internet where nobody can trace each other Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #91
Oh, I know what it is KamaAina Aug 2015 #93
And looky who had not one but TWO accounts there. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #98

delrem

(9,688 posts)
1. Oh, fuck the hackers and their beavis & butthead mentality.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:55 PM
Aug 2015

Why would anybody with any sense of dignity go along with them?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. here's the list of email domains. I know for sure people at DOTgov are not allowed to surf at work.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:26 AM
Aug 2015

list here http://pastebin.com/U4QQEaBE

noticed these domains right away- if they are not fee payers, the exposed emails could be incorrect.

tsa.dhs.gov

superiorcourt.maricopa.gov

tnmp.uscourts.gov


thruway.ny.gov

tiffinohio.gov

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
7. Why are you doing this?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:57 AM
Aug 2015

These are private people. This is an invasion of privacy.

Really, really gross.

In fact, you may be participating in a crime, as well as a tort in many states.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. yes, like @DOTgov. However, you can go to trending on pastebin and see the actual names BUT...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:13 AM
Aug 2015

BUT, many can be fake email address (one is the presidents name)

Many can be fake email names because if there is no fee payment or address information attached anyone can submit a fake email address on the thousands of webpages that ask for an email.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. It is against the working rules for government employees to use their work .gov emails like that.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:30 AM
Aug 2015

They can lose their job. Though like I said, many of those ".gov" full emails addresses could befake submissions.

Someone I know was threatened by email from a .gov address. It was very easy for them to contact the .gov authorities and have the matter resolved.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Who the hell are you to say what people do during their workdays?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:36 AM
Aug 2015

Are you bored today or angling for Mike Huckabee's VP pick?
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. I got all the info from the news article. except I do know .gov employees aren't supposted to
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:05 AM
Aug 2015

be 'surfing the web' while at work.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. Neither am I. Can I count on you to ferret out my manager and rat on me?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:09 AM
Aug 2015

It's bad enough we have a moral Guardians Of The Galaxy, now we have Sunlei to make sure we are all 'pure' in the workplace, as well.
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riversedge

(70,183 posts)
40. maybe they are doing it break or lunch time. But it was wrong to hack and now to post
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:51 AM
Aug 2015

this private information. just plain wrong --and that goes for anyone who participates in the distribution.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
46. It's not allowed to use DOTgov servers for 'personal fun' even on breaks or lunch.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:01 AM
Aug 2015

Although it has been in the news that the 'dating' website 'females' are fake and 90-95% of exposed registered fee payers are male.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
47. Why some folks seem completely unable to comprehend that is astonishing.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:06 AM
Aug 2015

Do they not understand that, aside from being illegal to use government computers for such activity, using government computers means that the user understands that the info in not private.

Sheesh, this is basic stuff here, and yet so much pushback.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
57. They probably didn't realise that about DOTgov servers. The gov employees should know better.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

People don't seem to know about pastebin either.

If someone is going to cheat on their family, they should not use their Gov. work servers

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
76. "Public Shaming" is the new national pastime, apparently.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:06 PM
Aug 2015

Seeing people humiliated and shamed on "reality" TV isn't enough anymore. Now everyone wants to participate instead of just watching.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
15. You don't know awesome when you see it? ROFL
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:34 AM
Aug 2015

If it was a list of assholes looking at kiddie porn would you have a different opinion?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. How many children are going to lose their parents because of this?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:37 AM
Aug 2015

Collateral damage, I guess. Anything is worth it so long as we can break up relationships we don't approve of.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
21. Divorce.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:42 AM
Aug 2015

The hell with people's privacy. What matters is that we have hackers watching over us to ensure we only have approved relationships.
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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
26. While I don't support the hack, I wouldn't feel bad for somebody if their husband/wife found out
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:28 AM
Aug 2015

I wouldn't feel bad if their husband/wife found out they were cheating on them.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. Unfortunately, there are a lot of loveless, sexless marriages out there.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:36 AM
Aug 2015

Relationships are complicated. An anarchic dump of data like this hurts a lot of people. No doubt there will be some children hurt by it, also, as spouses take to the courts to enact their revenge.

Probably there are some spouses who do 'deserve' this but these hackers don't care about that, they just want to fling shit about the room and see who gets hit by it.

Anarchy is not something to celebrate, IMO.
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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
36. I'm aware of that
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:46 AM
Aug 2015

And as I said, I'm not sure if I fully support this or not. I'm certainly not going to get on and search for my city in hopes of finding people i might know. I just don't care. Even my wives name, I have no reason to suspect she would be on the site, so I don't have any need to search her name.

And if the marriage is loveless and sexless, get out of it, or at least be open about it.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
66. People stay in loveless or sexless marriages for a host if reasons.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:36 AM
Aug 2015

Not the least of which is for the sake of children. Or a partner is ill and cannot participate in sex anymore.

It is not up to you, me, the hackers or anyone to out them.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
37. YES! Punish the whistleblowers!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:47 AM
Aug 2015

Assuming that divorce is the result, and that it results specifically from this revelation of infidelity, the fault for any such divorce would rest on the cheater, and not the party who revealed it.

Unless we're going for the "it's fine as long as you don't get caught" vibe, of course.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
56. Relationships are complicated. It's not up to you or me to determine what is 'moral' or not.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015

And it's certainly not the responsibility of anonymous hackers.
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Orrex

(63,199 posts)
60. Caveat cheater
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:28 AM
Aug 2015

They could just have easily been caught in the act by an acquaintance of the cheated-on partner. You'll need to convince me that exposing the act is a greater harm than the harm inflicted upon the injured partner.

You appear to see the revelation of the act as a greater wrong than the act itself. We may have to agree to disagree.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
48. Hold up. Are you saying that its the hackers fault someone went to a hookup website
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:08 AM
Aug 2015

that specifically advertises "life is short, have an affair", for getting caught?

Seriously?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. Hardly. But I don't want anonymous hackers to determine which relationships are permissable, either.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:23 AM
Aug 2015

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randome

(34,845 posts)
90. These hackers decided that adultery is not acceptable to them.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

Who died and made them the moral Guardians of the Galaxy?
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Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
45. None.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:59 AM
Aug 2015

Even after couples divorce, they are still parents.

I think if I found out that my spouse was cheating on me, I'd be mad at her.....not the person(s) that told me about it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
54. That's the least of the problems here
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:23 AM
Aug 2015

Remember, the Chinese have ooglefucks of data they stole from the US government.

They can now match up the data they have, with the Ashley Madison data, and compromise any number of government employees.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
61. Libertarians and anarchists unite!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:29 AM
Aug 2015

No one should have any secrets! Wait a minute, what about the NSA? Huh. Gonna have to give that some thought.
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
59. Because of getting caught, or because they chose to engage in an illicit affair?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:28 AM
Aug 2015

"How many children are going to lose their parents because of this?"

The children will lose parents because they were caught, or because the parents chose to engage in an illicit affair?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
62. Face facts. Many marriages continue despite extra-marital affairs.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:31 AM
Aug 2015

It isn't the responsibility of anonymous hackers to decide what relationships are valid or not. You know these hackers would fight like hell to keep their own secrets.
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saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
72. Isn't it the infidelity that will break up the marriage and not the outing of it?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:09 PM
Aug 2015

Don't spouses have a right to know it the other spouse , who may or maynot be using protection, is having an affair?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
73. All I know is it shouldn't be up to anonymous hackers to decide that.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
Aug 2015

Some spouses cheat because they feel they have no other option. That includes women as well as men. Not every marriage is the same. Not every infidelity is the same, either. Geeze, if infidelity didn't exist, half of all movies wouldn't exist.

Relationships are complicated. 'Solving' relationships this way is no one's responsibility.
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LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
88. Hackers aren't going to married people's houses and changing the locks.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:32 PM
Aug 2015

What the cheated on party chooses to do is their decision.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
92. No, they simply decided they don't approve of adultery.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:36 PM
Aug 2015

No exceptions because they know what's best for everyone.

And this wasn't THE anonymous collective, although it doesn't matter since they're all cowards hiding behind anonymity.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
95. Why stop there? Why not put a red 'A' on all their heads?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:56 PM
Aug 2015

I mean, it's not like anyone has the right to live their own lives. Let's let the clergy take over. They're even better than anonymous hackers at rooting out sinful behavior!

I don't put much credence on the Bible but I do believe in this: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
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saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
96. Why stop here because this gives anyone who is being cheated on a way to know
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 07:07 PM
Aug 2015

If they don't wanna know they don't have to check but if a spouse comes home with a big letter on them then it can't be ignored. No one is forcing anyone to check

Mother Of Four

(1,716 posts)
99. As someone who's been badly affected by infidelity -
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

For many it's not about individual exposing, sticking a big red A on their heads, becoming the "fidelity police" etc. They put the information out there accessible via a anon browser. They aren't breaking peoples arms to make them go read it. If you want to see it, look it up. If not, don't. It's YOUR choice.

What it IS about is information. Without information we are without choice.

Are you seriously suggesting that only one half of a relationship is allowed to make a choice of what the other person is exposed to? I thought a persons right to choose what they do with their body, or to choose what was done TO their body was a bone deep in the support of progressive thought?

Let me break it down ok?
Person A marries Person B
They become couple C
Person A has an affair with Person D
They become couple C(2)
Person A catches an STD from Person D and moves the STD (with health effects, some worse than others) from C(2)'s bed into Couple C's home, making Person B sick. Just one of the scenarios is Chlamydia. http://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/ Chlamydia is the most prevalent STD out there and often shows minor or no symptoms. It can cause PID and left untreated can prevent a woman from being able to have children.

Snip "If you are a woman, untreated chlamydia can spread to your uterus and fallopian tubes (tubes that carry fertilized eggs from the ovaries to the uterus), causing pelvic inflammatory disease (PID). PID often has no symptoms, however some women may have abdominal and pelvic pain. Even if it doesn’t cause symptoms initially, PID can cause permanent damage to your reproductive system and lead to long-term pelvic pain, inability to get pregnant, and potentially deadly ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the uterus)."

So what you are advocating is taking away the choice of a person who doesn't know they are at risk, taking away their body autonomy. Perhaps the woman in the relationship is pregnant, they get that STD and it can get passed on to the unborn child. Perhaps the woman hasn't had children yet and ends up with scarring STEALING the choice of whether to have children from her.

Maybe the relationship ends and it's the woman who was unfaithful. The man doesn't know he's carrying the STD due to the mild symptoms and gives it to his new girlfriend. She then is at risk, an innocent person that wasn't even involved, because of someone else's decision to not tell the truth.

And these are just examples of a hetero relationship, when we all know there are many other ways you can love/be with another human being.

I'm sure you could address this with yearly checkups right? Now enters the labyrinth of the health care system, not to mention the attempted defunding of Planned Parenthood. (shakes her head) I could go on and on and on.

I'm horrified beyond belief that anyone would assume that a living, breathing, FEELING human being doesn't have the right to choose what happens to their body. Cheating is defined by the fact that there is no AGREEMENT to have multiple partners. If both know, and both AGREE, then it's not cheating. If it's not cheating then the likelihood the relationship will be affected/broken by the dissemination of information is very low. Hence the majority of people that will have their relationships damaged or broken did it to themselves.


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. I to was surprised when 'news' media first pointed out pastebin as their sourse for information.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

Thousands of media must use it, one can see easy the hit numbers on the pastebin 'trends' page.

http://pastebin.com/trends

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
67. yes, anyone can type in a false email on any website. Even the President is on the list. :P
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

The email address alone is not a problem.

Hopefully for Cruz and our President , those emails aren't attached to fee payments & cyberchats on the website. Or they will be swamped by media questions.

sub.theory

(652 posts)
70. Because they're cheaters
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:02 PM
Aug 2015

These aren't innocents. They're cheaters. They betrayed trust and now they have had their trust betrayed. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Their tears are delicious to me.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
85. All of them?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:07 PM
Aug 2015

You don't think anyone might have registered to see if their spouse was on or heard about it and was just curious with no intention of actually cheating? Every single one of the 32 million must have had an affair.

I guess every crusade must have innocent victims.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
3. Been cheated on so I despise people who cheat on their spouses but I've come to despise
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:42 AM
Aug 2015

"Hacktivists" as much or even more.

Unless it involves your spouse then, quite frankly, it's none of yours, mine or anybody else's business if Philandering Phil or Wandering Wendy find their next partner for So You Think You Can Dance: Mattress Edition on Ashley Madison.

This is right up there with the schmucks over at Anonymous who not only post the offender's info but blast the school and cell phone numbers of his kids, his wife's workplace, pet groomer, etc. all over the net.

They claim to be about "justice" when the reality is they don't give one, much less two, shits about the collateral damage in the wake of their latest data turd.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
6. Looking over those .mil addresses
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:55 AM
Aug 2015

A whole lot of them appear to be emails of civilian employees.

A service member these days get a .mil address that stays with them forever. For a long time for the Army is was something like [email protected], now it's [email protected] if the person is military, [email protected] for a civilian employee and [email protected] for a contractor who gets email.

When you see an address with something like @gordon.army.mil that is someone who had an email issued by that post, not a full DOD one. Likely an hourly employee working in a dining facility, lodging or doing maintenance work.

Still a violation of their user agreement, I am sure.

And some of those .gov and .mil will actually be on there for legitimate work purposes. You better believe that they do look at sites like that when conducting background investigations, and since adultery is still a crime in the military they will look at sites like that for investigations. That's probably only 1-2% of the emails on there however.

Also spouses used to me able to get a us.army.mil address, I don't know if that is still done.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. IMO, it is only the .gov email addresses-connected to fee payment, that will have intense scrutiny.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:28 AM
Aug 2015

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
8. Cheating is wrong, yes
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:58 AM
Aug 2015

But this a huge breach of privacy. I know it is fun, point and laugh at people with moral failings, but these kinds of precedents are very dangerous.

sub.theory

(652 posts)
71. Only if privacy means never having to face consequences
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
Aug 2015

This is only about privacy in a world where privacy means never having to face the consequences of one's actions. These dirtbags only have themselves to blame. I'll save my sympathy for those who have had their information stolen from the IRS or their health insurance company. If only we had half the outrage then. I'm pretty sure I know what the difference is though, and it's not privacy - it's secrecy.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
84. I don't want to live in a world
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

Where internet vigilantes decide to reveal the private lives of 32 million citizens.

Especially in a format with no accountability to whether that person actually did anything wrong. How many people do you reckon might have registered to literally check if their spouse was on there?

How do you tell the difference?

This is the problem, "hacktivists" go off guns blazing for the greater good and never for once considers how they may be harming the innocent.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. How is hacking for the 'sport' of ruining couples and families anything to celebrate?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:17 AM
Aug 2015

Who made these hackers our moral guardians?
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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
18. I gave them a free pass on this one, and if someone is cheating and was exposed in this manner
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:38 AM
Aug 2015

What is the difference than if a friend of the spouse busted them?


Fuck around and you may get caught...just a new method here LOL- in bulk, much more efficient

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. It should not be your call. It should not be anyone's call.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:40 AM
Aug 2015

This is GOP-style ranting about harming people whose relationships you don't approve of.
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Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
32. And if someone signed up just to be curious about the site?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:42 AM
Aug 2015

Like, how it worked or to see if anyone they knew (i.e. their spouse) might be on it?

Of course, there's also plenty of open marriages that are now potentially being exposed as well.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
49. Is there an expectation of not getting caught when paying for a website that advertises
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
Aug 2015

"life is short, have an affair"?

I'd think that it should come as a given that getting caught, eventually, is part of the package.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
28. It's the cheating that will ruin families and couples, nothing else
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:33 AM
Aug 2015

If they weren't cheating, there'd be nothing to hack. Nobody will get dumped because of a revealed email address, only because of what they, not hackers, were using the email for. Those in open marriages will have few issues. Those whose partners expected fidelity will have issues they caused for themselves. Revelation is not commission.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
38. How is that close to analogous?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:49 AM
Aug 2015

Are these people being raped for their infidelity? No, nothing is happening to them beyond revelation of their own voluntary actions.

The analog here would be somebody wearing a short skirt whining that people can see their legs.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
39. You basically said they were asking for it by their actions
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
Aug 2015

Their own voluntary and private actions, one might add.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
43. Asking for what? The results of their actions are their responsibility alone. I care not.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:56 AM
Aug 2015

All I find disingenuous and pathetic is whining that they will suffer not because of what they did but because somebody pointed it out. Bullshit. Nothing done, nothing to point out.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
50. Joining a website that advertises "life is short, have an affair' and getting caught
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

comes with inherent risks. Anyone not understanding that would surely be considered an idiot for signing up.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
52. They weren't "caught"
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Aug 2015

The site they were signed up with was broken into, data stolen and then posted online by thieves.

Getting caught is your significant other finding out because you left the window open to it or bookmarked or other some such.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
68. You just identified the method by which they were caught
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
Aug 2015

Personally I don't care about this either way, but your logic is flawed.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
41. Place the fault on the cheaters
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:54 AM
Aug 2015

Any ruined families are ruined because at least one member cheated or trolled for some new action.

I'm a PI and I've never ruined a family, but in have exposed lots of people who were cheating and brought this on themselves.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. Me neither, but since the Chinese have information on govt employees...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Aug 2015

...I would imagine they are having a lot of fun in China somewhere, matching up the government employee data with the Ashley Madison data.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
44. I was a kid in a parental infidelity family situation.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:58 AM
Aug 2015

In every home a heartbreak. Would it have been better to find out this way, or not? I don't know. Hard to feel sorry for this though.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
64. You'd be amazed how many people I busted accessing porn on government computers
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

I did background and suitability investigations a few years back and so many people with clearances used their work computers to go to porn sites. I once asked a guy WTH he was thinking and his reply was "it was faster than my home computer". He was fired because he liked to look at teenage girls online and exposed his sensitive computer to malicious sites.

People are stupid, horny creatures.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
69. I feel sorry for the totally innocent who just went there to look around
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:55 AM
Aug 2015

or maybe see what the spouse might be up to.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
86. a site for cheating on your spouse is hack and people have sympathy for the cheaters
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

Private info or not maybe you should not cheat on your spouse

Keep your genitalia in check,

If feel that your marriage doesn't have that spark it once did tell your spouse ;don't go sneaking around.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
91. Its basically a section of the internet where nobody can trace each other
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:34 PM
Aug 2015

When I go to DU, they know my IP address. With a search warrant, they can find out where I live, down to my exact street address.

I can also find out the IP address of DU. Its 216.158.28.198. I can tell you their server I'm hitting now is in Pennsylvania.

On the dark web, you can be 100% anonymous, on both the server side and user side, so anything can be posted (yes there can be flaws in security, but if done right its untraceable. Therefore a lot of sites there deal with drugs, other illegal things, etc. (and some may be for free speech in places where is is otherwise banned, like in China. Although it would probably be a lot easier to host a site like that in the US, where US law would protect it. China would block it, but that is easy to get around.

Any website for the dark web ends in the prefix .onion. But don't worry, since your browser wouldn't know how to handle the request, so without the correct browser, you can not access the dark web anyway.

If you were interested, you could get to the dark web in 10 minutes, but its kind of a scary place, and not for amateurs.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
93. Oh, I know what it is
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

I was wondering why they'd use it. Your response about untraceability explained it for me.

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