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Fri May 18, 2012, 10:29 PM

Is Will Smith homophobic?

The footage, obtained by TMZ, shows Smith in his typical good spirits making his way down the red carpet, openly accepting an embrace from the reporter. But things grow quickly tense as the man, wearing a white blazer, plants two kisses on either side of Smith's face, during which the two men's mouths come in close contact. "What the hell is your problem, buddy?!" Smith says as he pushes the reporter away, then back-hand slaps him on the cheek. Moments later, a slightly shaken Smith is heard to say, "He's lucky I didn't sucker-punch him."



http://movies.yahoo.com/news/smith-slaps-kiss-happy-reporter-moscow-premiere-men-201618613.html

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Reply Is Will Smith homophobic? (Original post)
apples and oranges May 2012 OP
Catherine Vincent May 2012 #1
brettdale May 2012 #2
Zorra May 2012 #4
MrSlayer May 2012 #3
Jamaal510 May 2012 #21
Incitatus May 2012 #5
Booster May 2012 #20
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deaniac21 May 2012 #6
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ForgoTheConsequence May 2012 #8
morningfog May 2012 #9
ForgoTheConsequence May 2012 #11
morningfog May 2012 #14
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morningfog May 2012 #19
Cave_Johnson May 2012 #24
morningfog May 2012 #25
Lilyeye May 2012 #34
LiberalAndProud May 2012 #42
joshcryer May 2012 #30
cali May 2012 #51
vaberella May 2012 #46
Laughing Mirror May 2012 #65
vaberella May 2012 #70
Laughing Mirror May 2012 #78
Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #76
zappaman May 2012 #10
Jazzgirl May 2012 #13
vaberella May 2012 #71
devilgrrl May 2012 #16
obamanut2012 May 2012 #32
vaberella May 2012 #47
PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #58
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justiceischeap May 2012 #12
Nye Bevan May 2012 #15
cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #37
XemaSab May 2012 #17
richmwill May 2012 #27
etherealtruth May 2012 #52
Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #77
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NYC_SKP May 2012 #23
Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #26
mythology May 2012 #29
pa28 May 2012 #28
Capt. Obvious May 2012 #31
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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:32 PM

1. Don't know

But if that unwanted kiss had happened to me, I would have done the same thing. Smith was more cool with his though.

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Response to Catherine Vincent (Reply #1)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:34 PM

2. slight overreaction

I think.

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Response to Catherine Vincent (Reply #1)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:35 PM

4. +1

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:35 PM

3. I doubt it.

 

Being accepting of homosexuality doesn't mean you want guys kissing you. You are allowed to be offended by that. Personal space.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #3)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:07 PM

21. +1

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:38 PM

5. No, the reporter's actions were inapproraiate.

What the hell was he thinking?

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #5)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:06 PM

20. Totally agree. He would scared the shit out of me.

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #5)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:52 AM

54. +1 same thought nt

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:38 PM

6. That's

racist

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:38 PM

7. No, having your personal space invaded by someone and being offended...

...does not make you a homophobe. This reporter apparently uses that as his shtick. He probably gets more people pushing him away than being responsive.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:39 PM

8. No.

An unwanted kiss is assault.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:39 PM

9. Seems like it. He was uncomfortable with the hug.

He went over the top from there.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #9)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:45 PM

11. Ok.

So if a man walks up to a female and attempts to kiss her and she doesn't accept it then she's heterophobic?

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #11)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:51 PM

14. Context matters.

A man did not just walk up to him and kiss him. It was a gesture of welcoming from someone from a different culture. I don't know if Will is a homophobe, but he certainly seems a prude, xenophobe or just full of himself.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #14)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:01 PM

18. Except.....

It has nothing to do with a different "culture". This guy is a notorious prankster that does stuff like this to evoke a response, that's the "context".

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #18)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:03 PM

19. I can just say, I wouldn't react that way.

Kisses on the cheek are not a big deal. What is this, 4th grade?

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Response to morningfog (Reply #19)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:10 PM

24. That's you...

 

Some of us prefer our space... Doesn't make us bigoted.

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Response to Cave_Johnson (Reply #24)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:12 PM

25. Maybe just old-fashioned and prudish?

A peck on the cheek would cause you to jerk back, say "what the hell is wrong with you" and slap the guy? Then say he's lucky you didn't sucker punch him. It all seems to be an over reaction to nothing.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #25)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:51 PM

34. Sorry, but that is not the case for all.

I am far from being traditional and prudish, but I would not want some random stranger kissing me. Please stop judging people by your standards and opinions.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #25)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:50 AM

42. "amorous interview methods" -- I don't think we're talking about a mere peck on the cheek.

TMZ notes the reporter's amorous interview methods are all part of his "shtick."

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Response to morningfog (Reply #19)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:42 PM

30. It wasn't kisses on the cheek, he was going for lip kissing.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #19)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:49 AM

51. You mean they're not a big deal to YOU

gee, hate to break this to you, but not everyone feels the same way about everything.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #14)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:27 AM

46. False. I live in France and that's what they do. I FUCKIN' HATE IT!

I do not believe I am a xenophobe. And actually most of us Americans are the ones to put our hands out in a handshake. When people come up to close we take a step back. I remember my first year here...people were like, that's a very American thing to do and got a kick out of trying to enter my personal space.

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Response to vaberella (Reply #46)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:56 AM

65. It is common practice in France to "faire la bise" on both cheeks

Nobody thinks anything of it, of course. It's just a way of saying hello between friends. It is an unconscious and automatic gesture, like a handshake between friends would be to an American.

Living in France, I wonder why you haven't adapted to this extremely commonplace practice yet. Your French friends must have taken it as strange, your pulling back from their innocent attempts to be welcoming to you.


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Response to Laughing Mirror (Reply #65)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:07 PM

70. They got over it. They remembered I'm the American.

I've been here 3 years and never got into it. I know what it is and I know all about it. I happen to be Haitian, and Haitian's do the same thing. My family does it and I hated when they did it. I should have been used to it with them, long before I ever moved to France. It irritates me to no end. I find it uncomfortable. I've told them that many times. They take no offense. I'm okay with a hug, when I know you and of course hand shaking. But the kissing on the cheek...I can't do it.

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Response to vaberella (Reply #70)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:28 PM

78. Oh, so it's a violation of your personal space then

In my many years in Paris, I have only encountered one man (a visiting American) and one woman (a visiting Australian) who made it plain at being introduced to my friends that they did not go for the "faire la bise" thing. So it is a peculiarity I could respect, even though I admit at first it seemed off-putting to me. I'd heard of people who didn't like their space violated in that way, just hadn't met any before.

At any rate, if you ever come over to my house for dinner, I'll try to remember to extend my welcome to you with a hug, and not with a bise. You may feel free to set me straight if I forget!

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Response to vaberella (Reply #46)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:22 PM

76. lol

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:44 PM

10. Ummmm

I work in Hollywood and know many who have worked with him.
I'll just say there is more here than meets the eye...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #10)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:50 PM

13. What does that mean?

N/T

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Response to Jazzgirl (Reply #13)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:10 PM

71. Probably the rumor that Will Smith is bisexual.

~sigh~

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Response to zappaman (Reply #10)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:46 PM

32. Yup, a friend in the business

Told me the same, about him and Jada.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #10)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:29 AM

47. Whatever. Until you are with a person on a daily basis you have no room to judge.

I don't go by rumors. It's like those Repubs who are like, Obama is a gay, rumor has it he was with such and such at such and such time that can vouch for it. Really now?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #10)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:02 AM

58. I know what you're referring to and I've heard the same thing.

Not that it matters.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #10)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:01 PM

68. LOL

 

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:49 PM

12. He just recently supported Obama's announcement on supporting marriage equality

I doubt someone who supports marriage equality is homophobic.

If someone entered my bubble and tried to kiss me without permission, I'd be upset too.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:52 PM

15. YES. Any man who reacts with any negativity to an unwanted kiss from another man

is clearly a disgusting, bigoted homophobe.

And if the guy who kissed him happened to be Jewish, that makes Smith an anti-Semite too.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #15)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:28 AM

37. What if the Jewish guy had one leg?

Fucking AntiSemiLegophobe...

I hate people like that.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:57 PM

17. If it was a woman

and some dude grabbed her and kissed her against her wishes, we wouldn't be asking if she had a problem with men.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #17)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:13 PM

27. Bingo- That's my point in this.

Will Smith can get accused of homophobia for not being receptive of a kiss from a man. Now, imagine Angelina Jolie walking down the carpet at a movie premiere. A strange man runs up to her, presses himself against her, and forces his lips on her. Even if it was "on the cheek", oh I would imagine a much different reaction from those questioning Will Smith on this.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #17)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:50 AM

52. Seriously

The guy's (reporters) actions were designed to evoke a strong reaction ... he got it.

Almost 20 years ago a guy (total stranger) walked over to me as I finished pumping gas ... he reached out "grabbed me" and kissed me ... I was too shocked and horrified to react, but I believe smacking the guy would not have been out of line on my part. (I'm a woman)

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #17)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:24 PM

77. yep

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:09 PM

22. He may just not like intimate physical contact from a stranger.

I personally find it extremely uncomfortable when people I don't know get all touch-happy on me.

Or he may be a raging homophobe. Not enough info here to tell.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:09 PM

23. Prolly not.

Don't know for sure. I wouldn't put that label on him for this occurrence.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:12 PM

26. No, it is not homophobic for a hetero male to not like the non-consentual kiss of a man. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #26)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:25 PM

29. As a heterosexual man, I wouldn't want a non-consentual kiss from a man or a woman

I'm a big believer in personal space and generally don't like being touched by well, anybody. Which come to think of it, may be somewhat related to the fact that I'm perpetually single. :p

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:13 PM

28. I would not draw that conclusion.

It seems to me he's being violated and he does not really care for it.

When you are interacting with people you don't really know have a little respect and start with a little distance.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:45 PM

31. I remember a big deal made for his same sex movie kiss

Can't remember much about it (name of movie or plot or seeing it) but I remember it being big news at the time.

Was that Will Smith?

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #31)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:43 AM

41. Yes. And the kiss was simulated.

 

He said he wished he done it for real. That doesn't sound like a homophobe to me.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 11:49 PM

33. He got off lightly.

 

The nitwit in white was oozing on the cool dude. The cool dude let him off the hook with a backhand.

I can imagine 100 scenarios with 100 other actors which may have landed him on his back for the count.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:21 AM

35. Will Smith supports Gay Rights, and Didn't he play a Gay Character in some Movie ?

he probably just doesn't like people who doesn't know getting too close to him.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #35)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:31 AM

48. Yes he did play a gay role.

But there was nothing physical between him and any other character in the film, trick of the camera to make the kiss look real.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #35)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:46 AM

50. That was actually his breakout film role in 1993

 

In the screen adaptation of the play 'Six Degrees of Separation.' I remember reading a really bad review of it so I never saw it

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:19 AM

36. Will Smith is a Scientologist. IIRC they really don't like gays.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #36)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:42 AM

40. Tell that to John Travolta and Tom Cruise

 

n/t

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Response to Ter (Reply #40)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:40 AM

49. Oh, I know all about that story and have some inside corroboration, lol.

And I think Scientology keeps those two in line by a little blackmail.

"Keep giving us LOTS of money and promoting us or we tell your little secret."

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #36)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:23 AM

44. Wikipedia says he denies that

He has denied having joined the Church of Scientology, saying "I am a Christian. I am a student of all religions, and I respect all people and all paths."

But also

Smith and his wife have also founded a private elementary school in Calabasas, California, the New Village Leadership Academy, which uses Study Technology, a teaching methodology developed by L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology.

And

He has expressed support for same-sex marriage rights for gay couples.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:31 AM

38. I think it's unfair to judge under these circumstances.

Whether you are gay or straight, there is such a thing as personal space, and it should be respected. Smith accepted the hug, but he was probably startled by what he thought was a kiss -- what most of us consider to be an intimate gesture. We each have comfort zones, and this reporter violated his.

That aside, as someone has already mentioned, Smith openly supported President Obama's marriage equality statement. I doubt a homophobic bigot would do that.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:38 AM

39. Now it's homophobic to not want to get kissed by a man?

 

I really can't anymore.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:15 AM

43. i just saw the video and it wasn't that bad, Smith was happy with hugging the guy

but the guy was kind of aggressive in trying to kiss him on the mouth. and i hear he does that as part of some comedy thing. in the video smith looks ok with the hug and even kiss on the cheek. but it was the guy trying to move to the mouth where he got upset. and his response wasn't that bad.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 02:25 AM

45. No. I do not believe that's homophobic. I get really weird in France when they do that.

I hate when people give two cheek kisses that come close to my face. That has nothing to do with homophobia. It has to do with personal space and people entering that space. I don't even let my parents kiss me on the lips, let alone strange man or a female come near me like that.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:51 AM

53. Who gives a shit what Will Smith thinks?

Maybe because his new movie is being released? Big deal.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:53 AM

55. No. Men don't routinely kiss in our society

The reporter over did the affection.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:57 AM

56. Personal space is a fundamental part of any self defense school.

If someone wants to enter your personal space, it's perfectly reasonable that they do it only when you're agreeable.
Not welcoming any and all into close contact does not make one a bigot or homophobe.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 10:58 AM

57. If Will Smith had been a woman...

I don't think anyone would question this one bit.

It seemed to me that Will Smith went along with it in the beginning, but then the guy kept going and wouldn't stop. I don't know if he deserved the half-hearted slap, but that reporter went over the line nonetheless.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:29 AM

59. The dude was Russian.

Will Smith was IN Moscow, Russia. I understand that men do that kiss on each cheek thing in Russia. To me, that kiss on each cheek thing was what the Russian news reporter was attempting to give to Will Smith and it got physcially awkward and the the Russian reporter dude almost caught will on the lips with a kiss. It was accidental IMHO. Will freaked out and back handed the dude. In my view, the slap was uncalled for as were his threatening comments afterward. Mr. Cool ain't so fuckin' cool afterall.

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Response to The Midway Rebel (Reply #59)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:17 PM

74. As many times as Will Smith has been in Europe

it would seem he would have observed or even encountered the cheek kissing before.

But perhaps such a greeting had never been extended to him before and he found it offensive when it was. I have seen this before. I have seen straight American men who come to Europe who have a reaction similar to Will Smith's. They'll hug another man, pat each other on the back, but they are not so hot on two men brushing cheeks, which is the European equivalent to the American gesture of hugging and patting on the back.



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Response to Laughing Mirror (Reply #74)

Sat May 19, 2012, 06:52 PM

82. It is interesting to me that the consensus in this thread is suggests...

that it is perfectly proper to respond to an overly friendly gesture with physical violence and threats. Straight, bi, or gay; I think Will's response and the subsequent apparent approval of his behavior by the majority on this thread says something about the character of Americans in general.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:32 AM

60. Actually, I heard he was bisexual.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:40 AM

61. It was a justified reaction, imo

If a stranger walked up to you and tried to kiss you on the lips, wouldn't you push them away? Apparently this guy does it to all celebrities to try and get attention. It says so at the link.

It doesn't matter if it's a woman or man - most people would not let a stranger try to kiss them.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:42 AM

62. No. It could be considered assault to forcibly kiss someone w/o consent. nt

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:49 AM

63. Celebrities are supposed to let reporters do whatever they want at these events

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:54 AM

64. Nnnnnnnope

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:59 AM

66. If Will Smith was Willamina Smith

 

and some random dude planted a kiss on HER cheek, most of you would be defending her to the nth degree.

I am quickly growing weary of GLBTQLMNOP hyperventillating for every imagined slight. Stop it! Focus on real issues and stop force-feeding people your private bizness!

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 11:59 AM

67. Pushing off unwanted affection is not necessarily homophobic.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:05 PM

69. A woman would have slapped a strange man trying to kiss her, what is wrong with Will reacting?

He is in a greeting line. He may have just pushed the guy, but I think it was a quick reaction that he did not think about. I can not
imagine being a star and feeling like my fans could grope and grab me when they want. They don't own you.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:11 PM

72. Thats the reaction I would have if a stranger of either sex did that to me

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2012, 12:12 PM

73. Smith handled it perfectly, imo.

If he had decked the guy that would have been overreacting. But you do need to defend yourself. There is a subtle negotiation to a kiss. (Disclosure: I learned everything I know about it from "Hitch".) The guy in the footage was trying to take a kiss. If he had smiled and given Smith a chance to think about it, he might have gotten a kiss or he might not. Trying to take one against Smith's will was uncool. If Smith hadn't reacted with something defensive and equivalent, Smith would have been victimized. Instead, Smith found a good balance, imo.

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Sat May 19, 2012, 12:19 PM

75. No, Will is not a homophobe. Not at all.

You do not kiss a gentleman without permission, and Will is a gentleman. Nuff said.

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Sat May 19, 2012, 12:44 PM

79. Nope.

That was a personal space issue. Given Will's a celebrity, you never know what or who could be waiting in a crowd. It was a perfectly understandable reaction, IMO. Everything I've read about him points to him being a good egg.

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Sat May 19, 2012, 12:50 PM

80. the perfect smilie for this thread

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Sat May 19, 2012, 12:51 PM

81. Oh good grief no.

If any stranger, male or female, grabbed me like that and tried to kiss me? That guy is lucky that Will only tapped him on the cheek. I don't think I would have been so gentle.

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