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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:50 AM Jul 2015

Obama: If I Ran for a Third Term, I Could Win

U.S. AFRICAN UNION

Obama: If I Ran for a Third Term, I Could Win, "But I can't"

Maya Rhodan @m_rhodan 8:15 AM ET

U.S. President Barack Obama delivers a speech to the African Union on July 28, 2015, in Addis Ababa.

President Obama said that if he could run for a third term he thinks he would win, while calling for African leaders to adhere to term limits during a historic speech before the African Union.

“I actually think I’m a pretty good president. I think if I ran, I could win. But I can’t,” Obama said in Ethiopia on Tuesday. ” There’s a lot that I’d like to do to keep America moving, but the law’s the law.”

President Obama addressed his third term viability while calling on African leaders to step aside when their terms end on Tuesday. During his speech, the first by an American president before the African Union, Obama said when a leader “tries to change the rules in the middle of the game” in order to stay in office it puts a nation’s stability and the future of Democratic progress across the continent at risk. Obama specifically noted recent elections in Burundi, where President Pierre Nkurunziza won a third term. The United Nations has said those elections occurred in an environment that was not “not conducive for an inclusive, free and credible electoral process,” according to the Associated Press.

” The point is, I don’t understand why people want to stay so long. Especially, when they’ve got a lot of money,” Obama said Tuesday, during the final stretch of his historic trip to two African countries. “And sometimes you’ll hear a leader say ‘I’m the only person who can hold this nation together.’ If that’s true, then that leader has failed to truly build their nation.”



http://time.com/3974517/obama-third-term/
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Obama: If I Ran for a Third Term, I Could Win (Original Post) kpete Jul 2015 OP
That's ok. Hillary is running for your third term. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
You say that like it's a bad thing. Skinner Jul 2015 #2
IIRC, Bill Clinton was so popular that he would have won a "third term." CTyankee Jul 2015 #5
Given the closeness of the 00 race that seems a virtual certainty. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #34
I'd have voted for any Democratic president for a third term ffr Jul 2015 #45
He'd still be President. joshcryer Jul 2015 #66
I think we can do better. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #21
Precisely. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #33
At best, it's an acceptable thing tavalon Jul 2015 #48
Because Hillary needs a man to mold her? Krytan11c Jul 2015 #51
+1 Skinner Hekate Jul 2015 #53
That would be fine with me! Adrahil Jul 2015 #4
What does that mean? No it would be Hillary's first term. treestar Jul 2015 #18
That would be fine if it was accurate. Chemisse Jul 2015 #22
We should be so lucky if she wins. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #27
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ swilton Jul 2015 #30
I would take it Godhumor Jul 2015 #32
No, actually she is not. MineralMan Jul 2015 #39
Um, Hillary wasn't his VP - that was Joe Biden and he will be running for Obama LynneSin Jul 2015 #40
Are you saying.. Bernie is running against President Obama? Cha Jul 2015 #60
Hell, Americans, because the majority still are not brainwashed totally by the media, would make him President-for-Life! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #3
I agree with President Obama on this Gothmog Jul 2015 #6
He's right. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #7
Statements like that greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #8
You didn't read the article,did you? sufrommich Jul 2015 #9
Oh I read it greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #10
I'm not sure you do. He means, "Hey despotic leaders in Africa who have been in office forever. Step stevenleser Jul 2015 #11
Why waste a perfect opportunity to call Obama arrogant? sufrommich Jul 2015 #12
Right? But we're the assholes because they and Bernie are receiving criticism for the first time and stevenleser Jul 2015 #13
We are all entitled to our OPs greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #15
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. His meaning was obvious. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #16
You are more right than you know. nt greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #23
Ha malaise Jul 2015 #36
You're using loaded language in your post Politicub Jul 2015 #19
I'm sure the poster chose the language deliberately. mac56 Jul 2015 #26
what's 'arrogant' about a politician standing by his record and believing geek tragedy Jul 2015 #28
You have no clue as to what President Obama is like. Cha Jul 2015 #58
The reason for the 2 term limit is b/c Rs freaked out massively over FDR irisblue Jul 2015 #64
But, but, isn't that what Jade Helm 15 is all about? panader0 Jul 2015 #14
Joe could do it mainstreetonce Jul 2015 #17
And I would gladly vote for him a third time, if I could Politicub Jul 2015 #20
I think he's correct Renew Deal Jul 2015 #24
damn right. spanone Jul 2015 #25
Of course he could. Then again, Bill Clinton would have crushed George W Bush. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #29
Yep, and I'd be throwing in for him again. Amimnoch Jul 2015 #31
Ouch. Hillary would come in second again? jalan48 Jul 2015 #35
What a shame term limits aren't for tavernier Jul 2015 #37
I read the entire statement. I understand what he's saying. Paladin Jul 2015 #38
So what? What can they do to him at this point? nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #42
It's not him I'm worried about. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #44
Obama said it very well: Even if you think you can continue effectively, leave office at end of term Hekate Jul 2015 #47
Yeah, they'll have their snipes.. they always have for 7 years and counting.. but, it means nothing. Cha Jul 2015 #59
Just get Joe Biden to make his announcment! Then all is good LynneSin Jul 2015 #41
Shocking angrychair Jul 2015 #43
I think he said just to make Republican heads explode nadine_mn Jul 2015 #46
I'm with you Kali Jul 2015 #54
Republicans: Obama To Defy Constitution, Run For Third Term Initech Jul 2015 #49
As somebody,not me, must have said, jomin41 Jul 2015 #50
That was Robert Duvall, a republican by the way, but you already knew that. Good actor though still_one Jul 2015 #55
Was a Republican. Duvall left the GOP after 2008 when they went off the deep end... Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #69
Interesting, thanks still_one Jul 2015 #70
He is right, on both counts, and in spite of detractors inside and out, I believe history will view still_one Jul 2015 #52
rwnj headline: OBAMA RUNNING FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL THIRD TERM! 0rganism Jul 2015 #56
Not so sure... If he still played the Fast Track and TPP cards not as a lame ducker... cascadiance Jul 2015 #57
Yeah, President Obama would win again.. I don't care how much "tpp" is trotted out. Cha Jul 2015 #61
He would not get my vote. n/t Hotler Jul 2015 #62
i would love it if he was JI7 Jul 2015 #63
I would gladly vote for him again if I could! Kath1 Jul 2015 #65
Bet his saying that chapped a few asses. Solly Mack Jul 2015 #67
True dat. I don't trust polls and the msm which is why I think Obama's election Lodestar Jul 2015 #68

ffr

(22,669 posts)
45. I'd have voted for any Democratic president for a third term
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:26 AM
Jul 2015

Any Democrat is better than ANY Republi. I'd vote twice, if I could, for Bill Clinton or Barack Obama though. And if Sanders is the candidate, I'd vote for him too.

Fuck the GOP and their leachy supporters!

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
66. He'd still be President.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jul 2015

Incumbents have a huge advantage as it is, and Clinton wouldn't have gone to Iraq (9/11 would've potentially been averted; we may have gone to Afghanistan either way).

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
21. I think we can do better.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

And I think Obama could have done far more, had he not had the weird idea that working 'with' Republicans was possible or needful.

But here's a link for you, since you're one of the few Hillary supporters I don't have on ignore.

http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a29104/ladavia-drane-hillary-clinton-black-voters/

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
48. At best, it's an acceptable thing
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015

I'm very pleased that Bernie Sanders is forcing her to the left, where she should be. He probably won't win in the primary but he is serving a very valuable service. By the time he's through molding her, the DLC/Third Way won't recognize her. That is a good thing.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
22. That would be fine if it was accurate.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jul 2015

But Hillary will be her own person with her own style and priorities - and obligations.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
30. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jul 2015

short and sweet!

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
39. No, actually she is not.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jul 2015

She's running for her first term, and she will be a different President if she succeeds. At this point, President Obama is not speaking about his preferences for his successor. If she wins the nomination, though, I'm absolutely certain that he will campaign strongly for her, and she'll be happy to have his support.

If he did endorse her now, though, that would put an end to any chance of a different nominee. He won't do that, though. He believes in the process that ended up with his election. He will let the process proceed.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Hell, Americans, because the majority still are not brainwashed totally by the media, would make him President-for-Life!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jul 2015

Although Clinton is so close to Obama's personality and vision, so an excellent second choice.

An historical first in so many ways if President Clinton can continue the legacy Obama will leave behind.

Day 1 of the Obama Presidency, the economy was in tatters.....I remember.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. I'm not sure you do. He means, "Hey despotic leaders in Africa who have been in office forever. Step
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:43 AM
Jul 2015

down"

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. Right? But we're the assholes because they and Bernie are receiving criticism for the first time and
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

they can't deal. While we have dealt with this crap for 6+ years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027017090#post12

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. what's 'arrogant' about a politician standing by his record and believing
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jul 2015

it's supported by the voters?

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
64. The reason for the 2 term limit is b/c Rs freaked out massively over FDR
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jul 2015

popular & effective is troublesome to them

panader0

(25,816 posts)
14. But, but, isn't that what Jade Helm 15 is all about?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

Once the invasion of Texas is complete and the interment camps are full, Obama can declare Martial Law
and the coup will be complete.
I know a couple of people who actually believe that.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
20. And I would gladly vote for him a third time, if I could
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

But at the end of the day, I think term limits are a good thing.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
31. Yep, and I'd be throwing in for him again.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jul 2015

quite happily. He's been the most effective president in many decades.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
38. I read the entire statement. I understand what he's saying.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jul 2015

And I still wish he hadn't said it. The paranoid racist right is going to get mileage out of this.....

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
47. Obama said it very well: Even if you think you can continue effectively, leave office at end of term
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jul 2015

Nonetheless the paranoid left is already in this thread getting mileage out of this. Whaddya gonna do?

Cha

(297,137 posts)
59. Yeah, they'll have their snipes.. they always have for 7 years and counting.. but, it means nothing.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

President Obama is popular.. he's a great President and he could win again. Ha.

Too bad for them.

angrychair

(8,692 posts)
43. Shocking
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

Some of the comments here are shocking. I voted for PBO (twice) campaigned for him ( twice). I think he is the greatest president in modern history. My posts, on this or any site, support my position.
That being said, I would never ask or want any president, no matter how good, to serve a third term. It is a violation of law and our core values that reject the concept of a king or dictator. I only wish those values extended to members of congress..

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
46. I think he said just to make Republican heads explode
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously - you know that sound bite is going to be playing non-stop on conservative media as evidence that Obama wants to be a dictator. They will be so focused on Obama they won't have time to spend on the Hillary and Bernie

I bet he is laughing his ass off

jomin41

(559 posts)
50. As somebody,not me, must have said,
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jul 2015

" I love the smell of Republican heads exploding in the morning".

still_one

(92,131 posts)
52. He is right, on both counts, and in spite of detractors inside and out, I believe history will view
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

him as one of the greats

0rganism

(23,940 posts)
56. rwnj headline: OBAMA RUNNING FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL THIRD TERM!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

anything to keep the panic level high...

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
57. Not so sure... If he still played the Fast Track and TPP cards not as a lame ducker...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:41 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe he would have held off until 2016 for that, but even then, perhaps he might have gotten primaried. I think even if he did run, if he had pushed through TPA and TPP like he has, he'd get a lot of resistance this time around! And I think many of us wanting prosecution for banksters will say "Holder it! Time's up! Time to put some of these bums in prison, not grease your way to the revolving door when you leave later".

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
65. I would gladly vote for him again if I could!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jul 2015

So would a lot of other people, He promised change and is one of those rare politicians who actually delivers.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
67. Bet his saying that chapped a few asses.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jul 2015

lol

I like it when conservatives get their panties in a wad.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
68. True dat. I don't trust polls and the msm which is why I think Obama's election
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jul 2015

speech was held in a stadium so that the numbers of supporters could not be denied, contested
or distorted by anyone.

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