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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:49 PM Jul 2015

Nate Silver: Donald Trump Is The World’s Greatest Troll

“A troll,” according to one definition, “is a person who sows discord … by starting arguments or upsetting people … with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

The goal of the troll is to provoke a reaction by any means necessary. Trolls thrive in communities that are open and democratic (they wouldn’t be invited into a discussion otherwise) and which operate in presumed good faith (there need to be some standards of decorum to offend). Presidential nomination contests are highly susceptible to trolling, therefore. Access is fairly open: There’s no longer much of a filter between the campaigns, the media and the public. And it’s comically easy to provoke a reaction. How many times between now and next November will we hear that a candidate’s statement is “offensive,” whether or not it really is?

Trolls operate on the principle that negative attention is better than none. In fact, the troll may feed off the negative attention, claiming it makes him a victim and proves that everyone is out to get him.

Sound like any presidential candidates you know?

There’s a notion that Donald Trump’s recent rise in Republican polls is a media-driven creation. That explanation isn’t entirely wrong, but it’s incomplete. It skims over the complex interactions between the media, the public and the candidates, which can produce booms and busts of attention. And it ignores how skilled trolls like Trump can exploit the process to their benefit.

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-the-worlds-greatest-troll/?ex_cid=538fb

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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
5. That's a challenge for the GOP, but why should WE resist feeding him?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

His trollery is helping us. Ideal would be he decides to get more attention by running as an independent after he loses the Republican nomination. Almost as good would be that he DOES get the nomination. More realistically, he fires up his followers so that they then refuse to vote for a RINO (i.e., any other Republican nominee) in November, and/or he offends many reasonable people, some of whom take it out on the actual nominee whether that's fair or not.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
6. Actually, if we ignore him, he may up the ante
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jul 2015

And come out with even greater buffoonery; trolls hate being ignored. Yeah, a third party run would be entertaining and assure a Democratic win--do you think even his ego is that big, knowing it would destroy the Repubs? Maybe...

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
7. I think it's highly unlikely Trump will run in November.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jul 2015

You ask if his ego is that big (that he would run). I wouldn't want to bet against Trump's ego, on anything, but here it cuts the other way. If there really were millions of people who were sick of the career politicians and ready to vote for a successful (ha!) businessman, then he would win the nomination. When he doesn't win the nomination, he's smart enough to know that an independent or third-party run would net him an embarrassing third-place finish. Given his negatives, he probably wouldn't even come close to Perot's percentage of the vote. Something like Anderson's 6% would be more likely. He wouldn't want the ego hit of being walloped so badly.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Well, a natural one, anyway.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jul 2015

He's done nothing that wouldn't be done by any pampered rich kid who was raised in an opaque plastic bubble and never had to hear the word "no."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
9. Donald Trump loves him some Nate Silver ...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jul 2015

Nate said "Trump" and "greatest" in the same sentence.

All publicity is good, if you're a Trump or a Kardashian.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. I don't know if he's the greatest, he might be the richest.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jul 2015

Which gives him a very big megaphone.

Either way, the longer he's out there with a big banner that says "Republican" under his weird head, the better I see our chances being in 2016.

Troll away, dude.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. Hartmann is convinced he's a Koch op to troll Jeb
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

Then he'll drop out and let Walker win the mom after he's sunk Jeb.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. No, Scalia gets that title. Trump doesn't have means to f*ck over as many lives
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

while trolling as Scalia does.

And thanks to Rachel Maddow for pointing this out.

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