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angrychair

(8,690 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:55 PM Jul 2015

Trump's Rising Poll Numbers Seal the Deal

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In NH, Maine, IA and several places in between, Trump is on the move. No matter the public outcry over his comments. No matter the almost daily announcements of lost business partnerships. No matter that he has now double- and tripled-down on his original comments that called most Mexicans drug dealers and rapists. His poll numbers with Republican voters keeps going up.

The gOP has, as a group, not only refused to condemn Trump but has spent most of the time since his original comments defending them and/or supporting them. It has been a wonder to behold.

Nothing has highlighted and underscored the racism, xenophobia, homophobia and sexism that is intrinsically woven into the fabric of the Republican Party than the last several weeks.

There can be little doubt where, as a group, as a Party, they stand on these issues.

Trump is not a anomaly. He is not some vestigial appendage of the larger gOP body. Why are his poll numbers rising? Why does he now have a better chance than ever of being the Republican nominee? Because he says the things they want said. He embodies their highest ideals. He and they are racist, xenophobic narcissists and I assume some, are good people.

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Trump's Rising Poll Numbers Seal the Deal (Original Post) angrychair Jul 2015 OP
Your last sentence... arcane1 Jul 2015 #1
It's epic. Aerows Jul 2015 #7
Agreed! valerief Jul 2015 #16
+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #17
He is their "best and brightest". louis-t Jul 2015 #2
Great rant. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #3
these are the fools that elected Ronny . olddots Jul 2015 #4
Good points BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #5
Who cares? He isn't really running. PSPS Jul 2015 #6
His rising poll numbers indicate just how far afield MineralMan Jul 2015 #8
I know. It's mind-boggling. I just can't take him seriously. How can anyone? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #10
he is awful Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #11
He shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone. MineralMan Jul 2015 #12
I think that was the orginal plan.... daleanime Jul 2015 #18
They voted for Romney the last time.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #22
It MIGHT be fine art. Is it painted on gen-u-wine black velvet? Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #38
I think there are actually a lot more racists in the GOP primary base than his numbers suggest arely staircase Jul 2015 #33
Smart Republicans are speaking out against Trump on this. They realize it's political suicide. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #9
While not all Repukes are batshit crazy racists hifiguy Jul 2015 #13
True, but the important question is... daleanime Jul 2015 #19
I'd guess something closer to 40%. hifiguy Jul 2015 #30
God, I hope not..... daleanime Jul 2015 #39
According to polls 70% aren't sure if Obama was born in the U.S. rufus dog Jul 2015 #32
27% Fumesucker Jul 2015 #37
Jeb doesn't have much of a choice vankuria Jul 2015 #29
Someone is seriously asking why his numbers are rising? 1970andy Jul 2015 #14
And to prove your very excellent point I give you a graph of the 2012 Clown Car polling: Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #21
it let's the base exercise their right to be racists and bigots while pretending trump is electable spanone Jul 2015 #15
Fantastic OP Z_California Jul 2015 #20
thanks for providing the silver lining of that dark cloud. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2015 #23
Some are thoroughly misguided good people. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #24
Trump 2016: YOU'RE FIRED AMERICA!! Initech Jul 2015 #25
It's kind of like your drunk Uncle staggering in the door during Thanksgiving, or Poor Aunt Alice libdem4life Jul 2015 #26
Lord, love a duck...President Hairball Trump Hepburn Jul 2015 #27
ROTFLMFAO! That should be his campaign theme! Pleasepleaseplease let them give him the nod! n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #34
Its so funny because he seems to have a populist message............ Historic NY Jul 2015 #28
Trump is very astute at marketing vinny9698 Jul 2015 #31
Every time I look over there, Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #35
Our plan is working! B Calm Jul 2015 #36
This is how it is always done by corporate politics. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #40
 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
4. these are the fools that elected Ronny .
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jul 2015

they choose entertainment over education ----- thats what a Republican really is plain and simple .

PSPS

(13,588 posts)
6. Who cares? He isn't really running.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jul 2015

Be sure to get back to me on the July 14th deadline for his financial disclosure filing.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
8. His rising poll numbers indicate just how far afield
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:22 PM
Jul 2015

some Republicans are. That anyone would select Donald Trump for anything is completely incredible. I can't imagine how anyone could vote for that doltish excuse for a human being.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
12. He shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think he really is, either, despite the polling numbers. He will be gone after the first few primaries. He's in it for the publicity, for reasons known only to him.

He's a certifiable wacko, though.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
18. I think that was the orginal plan....
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jul 2015

but he's done so much damage to his businesses that he may hang around for awhile. Not like he's got anything else to do.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. They voted for Romney the last time....
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015

They admire wealth.

The Donald fits them even better because he thinks this is fine art:

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
38. It MIGHT be fine art. Is it painted on gen-u-wine black velvet?
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jul 2015

That's how us connasewers conasaurs likers of fine art can always tell.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
33. I think there are actually a lot more racists in the GOP primary base than his numbers suggest
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jul 2015

I think he is such an obvious nut that many racists wont back him.

just a hunch

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
9. Smart Republicans are speaking out against Trump on this. They realize it's political suicide.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

I know Jeb Bush has rejected Trump's views.

And at least one other candidate that I know of, though I can't remember which one.

Not all Republicans are batshit crazy racists, but Trump sure appeals to that GOP constituency.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. While not all Repukes are batshit crazy racists
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:46 PM
Jul 2015

- though I can't think of any who aren't at least politely racist - all the batshit crazy racists are unquestionably Repukes.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
19. True, but the important question is...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jul 2015

are the batshit crazy racists 13, 15, or 20% of the republican party.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
32. According to polls 70% aren't sure if Obama was born in the U.S.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

The batshit crazy maybe 20% but that tells over 50% are racist.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. 27%
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015
http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --

Tyrone: 27%.

John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.

Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.
 

1970andy

(16 posts)
14. Someone is seriously asking why his numbers are rising?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jul 2015

It's simple. This time of year is a circus. Any Hee Haw cast member or game show host could throw his hat in, and they'd get the same result.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
21. And to prove your very excellent point I give you a graph of the 2012 Clown Car polling:
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jul 2015

Everyone got to have second seat in the GOP Car, just like now.

spanone

(135,816 posts)
15. it let's the base exercise their right to be racists and bigots while pretending trump is electable
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jul 2015

it's also a sad reflection of america

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. It's kind of like your drunk Uncle staggering in the door during Thanksgiving, or Poor Aunt Alice
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jul 2015

emerging from the attic during Prayer Meeting. They're family, they are here, so....hmmm.

They have a problem. Maybe they think since Bernie isn't going to go negative, they can get by with just about anything. But it doesn't really work that way. Like tug of war, one side lets go and all the fun is over...at least for those who hung on.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
31. Trump is very astute at marketing
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jul 2015

Recognize your market, demographics, culture, language, then run a message that appeals to them. Appeals to the GOP hard core base. The base that votes in primaries, will go door to door, donate small amounts of money, but it adds up.
All those properties with has name on them, are not really owned by him but pay a royalty fee to use his name.
http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/the-8-billion-dollar-man/

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
35. Every time I look over there,
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 08:14 AM
Jul 2015

I remind myself of how lucky Democrats are to be able to field primary candidates who are discussing real issues rather than putting on a circus and offending people.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
40. This is how it is always done by corporate politics.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

You get a wealth crazed madman out front to rant and push the envelope of what can be deemed acceptable by society at large.

Then those that file in behind them seem almost reasonable in retrospect.

And the overall trajectory of both parties and people continue the small slants rightward each cycle until dyed in the wool Republicans from 1972 seem almost like radical leftists.

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