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joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The outrage!
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Trashing the only true liberal running for President, for being liberal, is another.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The author's title is misleading...she doesn't unload...she says he's too liberal...her opinion...ffs people slight criticim is not trashing...let's hope Bernie has a thicker skin than you all do.
And notice how it focuses on Claire when O'Malley is the one really trashing him...but now, let's hate Hillary some more...it's DU's favorite pasttime.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...you know...just like the republicans do...
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)No doubt, the irrational mind will pretend that "the only true liberal running" is objective analysis rather than a slur of exclusion... and then tortuously justify it as something neither insulting nor biased (i.e., holding others to a higher standard than one hold themselves to). Thus illustrating for all the power of bias.
part two (for all the petulant irrelevance it's worth)
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)"He's a radical."
So, you consider Clair McCaskill a Hillary surrogate? Cause, I didn't see Hillary's name mentioned.
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Is there something You wanted, new poster?
erronis
(15,219 posts)Just working on my "oldster" status. There are some impressive #s after a lot of peoples names.
When I get up into the 10,000 range I'll be able to post comments without refutation.
Personally, I think a lot of the terms that the fine GOP has used as slander need to be brought back to their proper place. I don't have a dictionary handy, but "liberal", "progressive", "socialist" are terms of pride and intelligence.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)How far is it to the saloon? It's hot and us old folks don't do well in the heat. Can we do this around Christmas?
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Maybe they've hacked into the secret paid Hillary supporters database?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Better clean the super secret server and move it to a different garage.
TBF
(32,039 posts)I'm not on the Hillary program, but I can tell you joeybee is a long time good poster. His care for rescue cats astounds me. And you are way out of line.
marym625
(17,997 posts)7th reply and it's "you all"? I do hope that you don't get this upset this easily out there in the real world.
I'm teasing you. Just found it kinda funny.
I'm fine with her comments. I think they'll help Bernie. Bring on the too liberal!
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Bernie 2016
(90 posts)She lost all credibility, and her association to Ms. Clinton just makes it worse for Ms. Clinton's candidacy.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Bernie 2016
(90 posts)then it would be already over.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)from have A Cigar, Pink Floyd:
Everybody else is just green, have you seen the chart?
It's a helluva start, it could be made into a monster
If we all pull together as a team.
And did we tell you the name of the game, boy (change to girl)?
We call it Riding the Gravy Train.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)McCaskill just voted for the trade agreement that a large majority of Dems voted against. I think the corporate Dems are glaringly obvious and woefully unpopular right now.
appalachiablue
(41,114 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)PFunk
(876 posts)And aren't those type of dems we don't want now?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thanks, Sen. McCaskill, for hitting every one of today's Team Talking Points.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)The art of propaganda. "Treetops Propaganda."
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)under any circumstances. Sad day when you send your surrogates out there to trash a true liberal. Embarrassing.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... how many more enemies McCaskill is creating for Clinton on the campaign trail if she accepts DINO McCaskill's support! As many out there that are fed up with DINOs would say, "It takes a DINO to know and like a DINO!", which would kind of deter from Hillary Clinton's efforts to try and *appear* more progressive to voters she knows are moving left in the party!
-none
(1,884 posts)But, if you think McClaskill is bad, wait till you see Roy Blunt(R). Missouri sent them both.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)I do think if Hillary really wants to claim that she's more progressive now, she's going to have to watch which "birds" have her feather with her, to keep people from seeing that she's on the other end of the measuring stick from where they want her to be.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Interesting.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I think you should save that for closer to the general election. Or maybe even closer to the primaries. Just for fun. Spring it on us. It'll be a great surprise to hear then.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I cracked me up. I hope leftofcool found it funny.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But this whole thread is my favorite. And it shows how easily their shit can be defeated. I'm am just LOVING her campaign. If this is how they are going to act this early, then Bernie has a shot. They're trying to copy the Obama gameplan but the trouble is, they don't have the same quarterback.
Too liberal? Already??
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)And when one of her surrogates goes too far, that person will do a quick mea culpa with the non-apology apology and say "sorry if you were offended" and the Clinton camp will quietly stop using the person as their attack dog. Repeat...rinse.
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)Unfortunately.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)The Washington Post ranked her as the second-most-likely to vote against her party. Most likely was Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), whos not running for reelection.
Shes voted several times with Republicans on environmental issues. Shes also co-sponsored a number of bills with Republicans, such as the Earmark Elimination Act of 2011 with Sens. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fl.), and she supports a balanced budget amendment.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)appalachiablue
(41,114 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)She probably doesn't care though, as she probably knows that when her term comes up it will be time for her to move on to a revolving door promised her rather than bother trying to get reelected, which probably won't be very likely in today's climate where DINOs are going to be increasingly PROPERLY shown the door!
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Seriously Hillary is using this woman as a surrogate? Why not just use Lindsey Graham, they seem to be like-minded.
Hey, now that I think about it Ive never seen Claire and Lindsey in the same room together.....hmmmmmmm......
Prism
(5,815 posts)Don't worry, Claire, they will.
"Untouchable"
No politician should be untouchable. Ever. That is the essence of an anti-democratic sentiment.
I think we're getting a nice glimpse into how entitled people in power can get to feeling when they've been there too long.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)It's just the most brilliant campaign strategy and she is the most charming, effective surrogate evah. More! More! Mo McCaskill!!!
Prism
(5,815 posts)Excellent plan. I wholeheartedly approve.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)She is so warm and classy. People just love her! Brilliant!!
grasswire
(50,130 posts).....or an ambassadorship.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I'm thinking comfy lobbying job
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Guess we know where Hillary stands on that one.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)This one is a pit viper. Please pass the plate of passive-aggressive.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Do not insult pit vipers
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and sending out surrogates. Internet trolls were not having the effect they were hoping, apparently. They're worried.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The training program was voted down, remember?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Oh come on now! There will be a GUSH of jobs that pay a million dollars an hour! Any day now! For you and me! The TPP!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I just forgot to include the proper smilie to convey that
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Let the surrogates do the slander, then sit back and claim plausible deniability
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Im thinking this is progress for Bernie Sanders
WillyT
(72,631 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)FEEL THE BERN!!!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Gandhi graphic has already been posted.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)thanks for sharing the D-Team, whose on the A-team?
appalachiablue
(41,114 posts)Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts).....just a little more artful.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)So your likely right regarding the go to on the Jewish politician.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Or Is she not treating Sanders as a serious candidate, either?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Discussing actual policy differences is a huge risk, since his policies are backed by the majority (whether they realize it yet or not!) and highlighting those differences will only show how bankrupt the Wall Street side is.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)that every repugnant, abhorrent, DINO in the country is a Hillary surrogate. Find a likeable, honest, progressive Democrat who attacks for Hillary. Just find one. I can just imagine what a Hillary cabinet will look like.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Fuck pro-corporate "Democrats".
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)This from her, and an attack ad from O'Malley.
The machine is in working order.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)I'm stunned, STUNNED, I tell you.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... to see her family. Noting here that she was here for Mother's Day
https://twitter.com/clairecmc/status/597168054708015104
We're already mad enough with almost our entire congressional delegation except Pete DeFazio and Jeff Merkley for their traitorous votes on the TPP/TPA as well. I wonder if she was meeting with the other traitors while up here.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)She said it.
He isn't right wing enough for her.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Which specific positions are "too liberal"? How many parts per billion is "liberal" allowed to be before it's unsafe?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Also, she mentioned no issues and attacked him personally.
If this is the road Hillary wants to travel down, it will not go well for her. She completely self destructed when she went negative against Obama.
florida08
(4,106 posts)Great response.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I don't know either.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)she wouldn't do a 180.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Yesterday Sanders was a racist gun nut.
Today this dope is whining that he's "too liberal for America".
With surrogates like McCaskill and the loathsome Lanny Davis, and Clinton's tin ear ("All lives matter" , they're doing Sen Sanders' job for him.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Absolutely THE code words, "too liberal "
And what does that tell us right off the bat? Somebody, I won't say who, but somebody, is not so liberal. Wink wink nod nod
Doing the Bernie bounce
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Wink wink, it's all for show, wink wink, dirty hippies and all. Oops!! Captain, turn this ship, we're heading for an iceberg!!
marym625
(17,997 posts)"The Dirty Fucking Hippies WERE RIGHT!"
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I forgot what talking points were allowed!
I will go to my corner and think long and hard about what's important here.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Oh yeah, zero.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)violation of the will of the majority for her personal gain, I'll give her statement all the consideration it deserves.
Which is, none. Claire McCaskill and the other traitors can burn in hell for eternity for all I care.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Yea, then you can get a whole slew of rethuglicans to control all three branches of government.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)erronis
(15,219 posts)I really like to get several sides of every coin. Can anyone recommend 2 or more sites that would be worthwhile looking at to see varying "Democratic" viewpoints? I'd really like to find some that are pretty fervently pro-Hillary or other candidates.
I think I know many of the RW sites and will dip into on flyby's when needed (cleansing my wings after.)
However I haven't run into many such as DU that have active discussions. WaPo, NYT, etc. perhaps, but they are really establishment versus pro-corporatist blogs.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Would she be one of the traitors that voted WITH the Republican Party? What is it with neoliberals and their 'free trade' and their pretending to be DEMS?
BE SCARED THIRD WAY APOLOGISTS, you have a good reason to be with Bernie Sanders in the race!
erinmblair
(105 posts)Claire McCaskill voted for the Trade Promotion Authority AKA Fast Track!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Samsays 3 hours ago
I'm looking forward to substantive debates between Hillary and Bernie. Thick with issues that really matter to the people, in detail.
I can assure you that if all Hillary does is what Senator McCaskill has done here -- "He's a socialist!" and "He's unelectable!" -- then Hillary will lose.
Unlike Senator McCaskill, the American people want real substance.
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Chris Goodman> Samsays 3 hours ago
Me too. Bernie is a honest man running for higher office. I hope he will give tough time to Hillary. go Bernie,..
race_to_the_bottom> Samsays 39 minutes ago
"I'm looking forward to substantive debates between Hillary and Bernie."
Haha. I can assure that Hillary is NOT looking forward to this experience!
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race_to_the_bottom> Gretchen Pemberton Brena 40 minutes ago
Exactly. Go to berniesanders.com and order a bunch of lawn signs.Talk to your neighbors. This thing has legs. The people are WAY ahead of the pundits and the Demo establisment.
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race_to_the_bottom> Jennifer Howell 42 minutes ago
This is so true, Jennifer. "Infantaiizing" is such a great descriptive term. People have to realize that they have to stop being consumers of political pap and begin to think and act like real citizens again. The times and their future demand it.
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MrTonyD> Paul Rizzo an hour ago
He can veto on our behalf. And use executive orders. That is more than we have right now with our Harvard-educated, multimillionaire, wall-street-financed, lawyer president.
He can also educate the public about his policies - supporting Warren and others and perhaps changing the outcome of future elections.
So, to answer your question, he can do a lot.
independent man> Samsays 35 minutes ago
Senator McCaskill is a carbon copy of Hillary. A elite super rich, white privilege class member. Democratic Senators like her, also called Franklin D Roosevelt a socialist, when he fought for social security benefits and medicare, for the poor and elderly. These moderate dixiecrats, that like to wave their confederate flags, behind closed doors, belong in the Republican party.
Bernie Sanders is a true Democrat, that cares about all the American people, not the nasty politics of hate and division.
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NameNames> Samsays 44 minutes ago
Hillary is a lying, former WalMart Board member, who also supports free trade, the NSA, war, debt and is in the pockets of the Wall Street crime syndicates.
Oh yeah, she also VOTED for the Iraq war - how any self respecting left wing American can vote for this monster is astounding.
She is a despicable sellout of humanity, and will do nothing for the people of America. While she is summering on the Hamptons she is assuring the .01 percent that she will be their gal on the Hill, humanity be damned.
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Divernan
(15,480 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)She only won because she was up against Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin
azmom
(5,208 posts)"There are no ifs, ands or buts about it. Senator McCaskill's office has pushed the Department of Justice to declare an end to the DOJ investigation if a decision of no-indictment is issued by the grand jury," a high-ranking government official told The Root.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Maybe in the next election she will find that she is not liberal enough! I would so enjoy that. Voted for TPP? Very out of touch!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Hillary might want to be careful who she has vocally endorsing her now!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Too liberal. From a democrat. Really illustrates all that is wrong with the democratic party today. Talk about losing your way.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)That along with her red-baiting.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)they're not arguing Sanders will never make it or that Americans will think he's too far left when the backs what 70-90% of them consistently demand, they just want the thoughts "still behind in polls" and "America won't go for someone really liberal" to pop up whenever they think "Sanders"--regardless of what else they think
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)proxies descended to red-baiting. I think Sanders is now fully entitled to mention the blood of 1,000,000+ dead Iraqi civilians dripping from Hillary's hands. You want to call Sanders a 'Socialist' to try to tear him down, then be prepared to have your candidate called a mass murderer, either modern history's biggest dupe or something far, far worse.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but come debates, he will hit her hard on the iwr, wall st support, and the tpp, among other things. he has to keep drilling it that she is a major hawk. people are sick of wars. and she will get us into another one.
G_j
(40,366 posts)StarzGuy
(254 posts)Considering social security, medicare, US highway projects, etc. are also socialistic andyet no one calls them that. I'm proud to be an American Socialist Democrat like Sanders. The narrative needs to stop. Which countries have, well, just about the best of systems out there for their people? That's the social democratic countries like Sweden.
Capitalistic democracies such as ours is survival of the fittest and if you don't fit in then you are a taker who is to be loathed and marginalized.
I don't like to track our country is on, has been on, since the 1970's
G_j
(40,366 posts)I think the reason they can't make it 'stick', is that people may even be ready for it, as they see someone who is honest, straight forward and fair....and smart!
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I have yet to make up my mind, yet I see this as her making her choice. It may not agree with what some here wanted her to do, but still it is a choice and it is "HER" choice.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)TBF
(32,039 posts)and they have good reason to be. Bernie is appealing to both progressives and moderates. He can win this. Not all of us are "ready for Hillary".
40RatRod
(532 posts)...I don't see this as unloading.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)She distanced herself from her party and the president and has been a fairly corporate democrat for quite some time. I really don't give much of a crap what she thinks.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Yes, we know where she AND Hillary stand...on our backs!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)It doesn't do anyone any good in the end. The benefactor is the GOP and never the democratic opponent.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all we can hope for is that our guy or gal doesn't get as beaten up as the one on the Republican side and is more likely to appeal to the general election voter. sad all around.
valerief
(53,235 posts)he proudly wears.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)claire's and the other loyal Wall Street/Corp Wing members of the Dem Party's example on how I respond.
I will respond to them/their words, promises, predictions, speeches and advice with the same interest in the same way they have responded to the American people and most importantly...their constituencies......I wlll "slam the proverbial door in their faces"...additionally I can and will also pretend "they're not there"...as they do when we call...on big issues....in overwhelming majority support Or opposition to "XYZ".
It's only fair.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)If Bernie is a socialist and his supporters are socialists, then why should they support Hillary, who is not a socialist, in the General Election? They should stay home. Who cares which non-socialist gets in?
While there are very important differences between the two candidates, the truth is that Sanders and Clinton voted the same way over 90% of the time.
StarzGuy
(254 posts)...a DINO who voted for passage of the TPA, Fast track and assuredly will vote for the TPP. She needs to be primary-ed out of office along with the other 12 DINO's who voted the same way in the Senate.
Ino
(3,366 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)
I just got this email from Claire today...
I haven't always made leaders in my party very happy, and I've stepped on some toes since coming to the Senate, but that's okay - I'm here to get results for you.
A new analysis by the Washington Post highlighted that fact when they ranked me among the most independent Senators - and one most likely to vote against my own party.
According to the analysis: ..."we looked at every vote taken in the House and Senate so far in the 114th Congress. We figured out the majority position for each party (in cases where it was not unanimous) and compared every member of each body's vote against the party majority." - Washington Post.
Here's a look at the results: (a chart showing among Democrats who vote "against the Party majority," she is #4)
During my time in the Senate, I've fought to cap federal spending, abolish unnecessary federal agencies and end Congressional earmarks. It's those battles, which consistently find me ranked in the moderate middle, that help me achieve concrete results for Missourians - to expand job opportunities, cut wasteful spending, and help clean up Washington so folks have a little more confidence in their federal government.
All the best,
P.S. It's your voice that matters most. Share your thoughts via email, or find me on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter
So it's interesting & illuminating who she is endorsing.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)She needs primaried.
florida08
(4,106 posts)is code for, too involved with the working class. Everyone knows this is an oligarchy/plutocracy
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Oneironaut
(5,491 posts)The irony is rich.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)How much Barack Obama was dissed by everyone? I fought, and fought, and fought, and my REPUBLICAN neighbors voted for him. The right person at the right time.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)socialist
extreme
serious candidate
It must be horrifying to see someone else actually getting some traction.
Like '08 all over again except this time it's a wild haired older guy who has a sincere message
The best thing Hillary could do is to ignore him, and NOT trash him. It makes her team look petty and meanspirited..and that did not work well last time.
I only wish Bernie was a 50-something.. At his age, I doubt he could win..even though he's healthy .
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)She certainly doesn't influence my opinion. I disagree with her votes often.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Nuff said .
LordshipLadyship
(405 posts)Sounds like a Republican. I thought they were the ones that trashed liberals.